Festool quality?

[sancho57]

All you can assume is festool don't give a monkey's
What would be good if some people on here would stop talking nonsense about step down transformers etc as they have already demonstrated their lack of electrical knowledge.combined with the fact that they are on the payroll makes them so transparent.
Just buy from other manufacturers stop wasting your energy on the kapex.

Interesting comment,

I've been running my entire 110V shop on a 3.3 KV converter/ tranny for the past 4 years with out a problem.

That includes Kapex, OF 2200 in the CMS, TS 75 in the CMS, TS 55 on guide rails. All ran with either a 110v American Ct 22 or Ct 26
Mines are all US tools BTW.

Maybe I just have good luck.

Just returned the tranny to my buddy as I borrowed it from him when I got here.

 

[LJD]

I use the little 10.8 drill set. Thats lovely. But never found I wanted to buy a bigger  Festool drill. My dewalts thunder into stuff really well. And i have heard people really say the precision festool is not that great ?

 

[GarryMartin]

All you can assume is festool don't give a monkey's
What would be good if some people on here would stop talking nonsense about step down transformers etc as they have already demonstrated their lack of electrical knowledge.combined with the fact that they are on the payroll makes them so transparent.
Just buy from other manufacturers stop wasting your energy on the kapex.

I haven't seen any nonsense regarding transformers in this thread. There are people that are using under-rated/low-quality transformers and assuming the equipment they plug in to them should work without issue. Get a properly rated transformer for the equipment being run and be mindful of the voltage drop when using long cable lengths.

I do take exception to your accusation that members posting in this thread are on the Festool payroll. Provide some evidence or recant and apologise for your remark. I refer you to the forum guidelines relating to "Be nice, or don't post" and "No flaming or trolling".

If you do have some evidence, then I would suggest you PM a moderator and respectively remind the member of the forum guidelines relating to "Full disclosure".

 

[charley1968]

I think this is why Peter called it the 'slap the arse and watch it ripple'-thread. Why is it that all such threads end in bad blood? Everone has an opinion that's exactly as worthy as anyone elses.
If you think your opinion is closer to the truth, put forward arguments. Not more opinions on other members abilities, sources of income aso. Why are you doing this, [member=8167]Festoolfootstool[/member]?
In the same vein: do you really care for an apology, [member=11629]GarryMartin[/member] ?
I dunno, but i recommend closing this thread as it only leads to further recreminations between members. I think the real sheep on the FOG are the members who have to make a fight out of every controversity.

 

[GarryMartin]

In the same vein: do you really care for an apology, [member=11629]GarryMartin[/member] ?

I see your point [member=23615]charley1968[/member] but in this case, I do care for a public apology because otherwise where do we draw the line on just ignoring something rather than setting the record straight? There are forum guidelines for a reason, and if they're not being observed, there are remedies that should be enforced.

But we all get a little too heated or frustrated sometimes, and post things that in retrospect we shouldn't have. We should give [member=8167]Festoolfootstool[/member] the opportunity to consider his comments and remedy that situation should he choose to do so.

 

[charley1968]

Got it and i agree.

 

[semenza]

I have to say that I agree with Gary and Charley on this.  Who exactly is on the Festool payroll that is dispensing transformer electrical knowledge that is incorrect?

This seems like just baiting to me and is not OK on FOG.

Seth

 

[ajones]

Not interested in baiting anyone.im interested in keeping issues with the kapex as factual as possible,that's it.

 

[semenza]

OK, then lets all stay on the facts in this topic before it gets out of hand.

Seth

 

[semenza]

All you can assume is festool don't give a monkey's
What would be good if some people on here would stop talking nonsense about step down transformers etc as they have already demonstrated their lack of electrical knowledge.combined with the fact that they are on the payroll makes them so transparent.
Just buy from other manufacturers stop wasting your energy on the kapex.

I am not so sure that anything in particular has been solidly determined about the Kapex issues. Whether it is small fast repetitive cuts. or something to do with power supply, or both, or something else, or nothing.

Not sure who you think is on the Festool payroll. The comments above make it look like you think someone is hiding the fact that they are being paid by Festool or hiding their affiliation with Festool.  Whether you intended that or not.  If you have an issue with the electrical information being presented that's fine, take issue with it. But can the slams.

This sort of taking veiled shots at people is not acceptable on this forum.

Seth

 

[antss]

"I am not so sure that anything in particular has been solidly determined about the Kapex issues. "

I think this is one of the issues that keeps negative publicity on Kapex at the top of the page. 

A year after an announcement that it was being looked into and we still have no resolution.  Not even a comment regarding progress.  That tries people's patience and is more than a reasonable amount of time to come up with something.

 

[Cheese]

A year after an announcement that it was being looked into and we still have no resolution.  Not even a comment regarding progress. 

I think it would be a reasonable assumption that within a year's passage of time, both a progress report and a final cause determination or Kapex product use advisory report could be released.  [scratch chin]  [scratch chin]

However, these reports don't even start the clock if a product recall/update is Festool's preferred direction going forwards.  [eek]

 

[Dan1210]

Bought the new version of ts55 to replace a 10yr old version, imo the new one is not as good, the motor died on me within a year and i dont even push it hard, my old model cut wet joists and still soldiered on. With the old version i could happily cut timber worktop joints square everytime, the new model i cannot rely on so its always the router now.

My kapex 110v also died on me using a 3.3k transformer while cutting 8x2 joists, im very careful with it now and hardly ever cut anything other than trim and thin boards with it.

I was considering the maffell to replace the ts55 but i really value the plug it system.

 

[Holmz]

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I was considering the maffell to replace the ts55 but i really value the plug it system.

A descent electrictian can put a "plug it" on, and they sell the plug-it assembly in the UK I think.

A somewhat better option is to put a "Neutrix TrueOne Powercon" on a cord and use that or... that cord on another compete hose.

 

[rizzoa13]

I have a neutrik cord and plug on my Erika. So much better than traditional because of the twist locking water proof seal it makes.

 

[Naildrivingman]

The only knowledge I have about the Kapex problems is what I've read on this thread, so my apologies up front if I don't cover all the specifics. My comments here are based on what is contained in this thread only.

The transformer issue:  I've never needed one, but I would never trust a transformer bought at a big box store vs one purchased at a reputable electrical supply company.  Accessories must be of a quality that meets or exceeds the quality of the tool it augments, especially if that accessory's failure could compromise the tool it enhances.

The extension cord issue:  I exclusively use 12 gauge cords for all my activity whether I run a 4 amp tool or a 15 amp tool. I also try to limit the length to 25'.

The Kapex quick cut issue:  I don't know what this means exactly. Does it mean repetitive cuts with the motor constantly running or is the saw being started and stopped with each cut?  I have done rabbets and dados with other saws in a state of constant on and those motors got pretty warm. I have also done quick chops with the motor starting and stopping, which also made the motor pretty warm.  Personally, I don't think either activity is an appraise use of the tool. Yes, it can be done; but should it be done?

If the number of problems were small, then I would look at how the tool was used. If the number is higher, then I would look at how the tool was manufactured.

Just my $0.02 worth.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

On instagram Dave Reinhold's second Kapex blew up and MK Holdings blew.  Two in one week that I know about.  Still no response from Festool!

 

[southrider]

I'm in the local woodworkers guild, and a friend approached me for buying advice because he knows I'm a festaholic.

He was about to order a Kapex for his shop. I talked him into the big Bosch Glide saw instead.

This is causing Festool business.

 

[Gregor]

This is causing Festool business.

Sounds more like it is costing them business.

 

[southrider]

Yup - thanx autocorrect....