Festool Radio SYSROCK BR10

charley1968 said:
S'cuse me: what's DAB?
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DAB+ as it's called is digital radio (Digital Audio Broadcasting).
It's been around since 1988 (then called DAB).
Within 5-10 years all regular (analogue) FM stations will disappear from the sky and will be replaced by DAB+.
Everybody has to change their radios (=buy new), in house and car by DAB+ or switch to internet radio.
It's the future for radio. Although the discussion about analogue and digital has it's pros and cons.
Sweden will close the FM band around 2022 and Norway already in 2017.
 
Indicated price : 133 € (160 € with VAT).

This is stated in the press release.  [wink]
 
To me this smacks of a product developed by a poor marketing department.

In the car these days I only listen to DAB ... so this product is a FAIL out of the box.

Meanwhile we still haven't seen a cordless planer!

 
Yep totally ill thought out. Lacks too many features competitors have at first glance. Not interested in this one bit. Dissapointed .
 
No DAB is really silly. Same as the Bosch offering, no DAB means I just use my 18v Bosch batteries in my Makita radio.
 
We need DAB Festool !!!!

You are going to have to go back to the drawing board on this one
 
Just checked my sys light and it's made in Germany.  Sorta not cool that the sysrock is made in China.  The one thing I really like about Festool products is that they are made in Germany or Europe.  That's one reason why I stopped buying Milwaukee Drills and switched to Festool.  When Milwaukee sent there drill production to China the quality went down.  I hope this isn't a trend being that the tc3 charger is made in China too. 
 
Tyler Ernsberger said:
When Milwaukee sent there drill production to China the quality went down.
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Can't fund their enormous marketing budget if they're makin tools in first world countries.
 
Any site radio that's capable of being plugged into the mains really should also be capable of being used as a charger as well, otherwise its just wasting a plug socket and every time someone needs a battery charged the radio gets unplugged*.
I'm often not a fan of site radios though, mostly because of numpties who seem to think they must always be played at full volume miles away from where they are working. Put it closer and turn it down a bit.

*Unless you happen to work on one of those fictitious sites that have an abundance of plug sockets, dunno bout anyone else but I've not been on any of those recently...
 
Tyler Ernsberger said:
Sorta not cool that the sysrock is made in China.  The one thing I really like about Festool products is that they are made in Germany or Europe.  That's one reason why I stopped buying Milwaukee Drills and switched to Festool.  When Milwaukee sent there drill production to China the quality went down.  I hope this isn't a trend being that the tc3 charger is made in China too.
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I find comments such as this quite interesting personally given our global economy of today.

I think the key element of your comment regards the reduction in quality, and to be fair, that can happen in production lines in any country. I have no issue with tools being made or assembled in China, or anywhere else in fact. Just so long as the quality remains. China have some world leading manufacturing and assembly factories, so why wouldn't we want stuff built there?

I steer away from the companies that aren't maintaining a quality product, or that don't have great employee relations or working conditions for their staff, but I don't disregard product purely because of the origin of manufacture.

I have an Apple iPhone that is assembled in Taiwan from components sourced pre-dominantly from the far-East, but it is a quality device; there is no "made in China" stigma associated with an iPhone.

And much like Apple in the US, the Festool design, sales, marketing, support, etc. departments remain in Germany, and it is these activities that are the high-wage ones that have a much larger impact on the in-country economy than assembly and manufacturing.
 
Wealth is created by labor, innovation and resources. Assuming we are mostly middle class here our biggest chance at staying in the middle class is through labor.
Doing physical, intellectual or service based work. But in the end all wealth begins at someone doing physical work. Those workers then require services e.g. health, transport, finance, education... things that can only exists with the surplus of wealth created by in-country labor.
So if you want all those things to keep existing then yes i suggest everybody to read the labels on what they buy.
 
But that is the issue, Most everything that was made in the US and it changed to China the quality went down. I was really disappointed in what we have for " quality" tools, jus took around Milwaukee, Ryobi, Ridgid , DeWalt, Makita, ETC were all made in China and look at the quality of all of them not even close to something from something made in the first world. Now I am not saying that just because it is made in the first world or even the US that will make it better sometimes , see the DeWalt, the quality is the same/ worse.  It seems that what the masses want are throwaway tools and that is the sad part. I would rather have 1 expensive tool that feels nice and I enjoy using all day to one that is alright and I throw it away in 5 years.

GarryMartin said:
Tyler Ernsberger said:
Sorta not cool that the sysrock is made in China.  The one thing I really like about Festool products is that they are made in Germany or Europe.  That's one reason why I stopped buying Milwaukee Drills and switched to Festool.  When Milwaukee sent there drill production to China the quality went down.  I hope this isn't a trend being that the tc3 charger is made in China too.
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I find comments such as this quite interesting personally given our global economy of today.

I think the key element of your comment regards the reduction in quality, and to be fair, that can happen in production lines in any country. I have no issue with tools being made or assembled in China, or anywhere else in fact. Just so long as the quality remains. China have some world leading manufacturing and assembly factories, so why wouldn't we want stuff built there?

I steer away from the companies that aren't maintaining a quality product, or that don't have great employee relations or working conditions for their staff, but I don't disregard product purely because of the origin of manufacture.

I have an Apple iPhone that is assembled in Taiwan from components sourced pre-dominantly from the far-East, but it is a quality device; there is no "made in China" stigma associated with an iPhone.

And much like Apple in the US, the Festool design, sales, marketing, support, etc. departments remain in Germany, and it is these activities that are the high-wage ones that have a much larger impact on the in-country economy than assembly and manufacturing.
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Let's not loose this thread to yet another 'made in China' debate.

I've been waiting for a festool radio for some time. Unfortunately it looks like I will be waiting for abit longer.
The omission of DAB Is a huge mistake, we live in a digital age and this is simply not good enough. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the lack of its own internal battery, which for a unit this small is also another big let down. There are countless Bluetooth speakers all ready on the market all with internal batteries. I was under the impression festool would only develop a new product if they could do it better than everyone else. This mantra has seems to have been forgotten here.

One other thought, if they are using the same crappy power adapter as the syslight then it will block a second outlet on any 4way extension reel due to the shape of the plug/transformer and that is not cool
Edit: peters video shows that this is the case
 
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