Festool SPR 800 & 1400 Rapid where can I find some information? **Updated**

[JonnyBBravo]

[attachimg=6]Hello,

I was recently bought a few old Festool Tools. I was able to obtain 3 SPR Rapids in all.  I understand it’s essentially a rapid straight line clamp. My question is where can I find some literature on them. I have 2 of the SPR 800 and 1 SPR 1400 Rapid. All three came with the FS Rapid Clamps and all are in mint condition. I am just trying to understand the original cost and application focus of these. They look like the image below but in 800 & 1400 mm lengths. Any input is appreciated.

I was advised from the person I bought them from that it was just a nice quick clamp that you could run a quick rip, router, rail connector, or accessory mounting on the rail.

I saw one post on the item but not a lot of responses from 2011. The pictures are from the internet but look just like them. I understand these didn’t sell well as with some of the other Festool stuff in the US so it gets discontinued. I also have a Festool MFS 700 set (discontinued). Just trying to figure out how I would be able to implement these in function etc. I figured asking the Festool gurus on here may lay some insight on application, functionality and overall use.

** Update To Post**

I am adding two pictures to show the profile of the MFS 700 which are stacked on one another and a picture of the SPR 800 & 1400 rail end to show the profile.

I also found reference to the item in Jerry Works "Advanced Cutting and Routing Techniques Using the Festool MFS Fence System" pictures and comments from his guide are listed below in the post.

 

[rst]

That is the quick clamp most commonly used to attach the track saw rails to a work surface.

 

[guybo]

Hi, welcome to the fog,here you go "[member=76421]JonnyBBravo[/member]"[attachimg=1]

 

[JonnyBBravo]

[member=58842]guybo[/member],

Thank you for the response. An right first post is about a tool that has been discontinued. But I just found it to be a interesting grab with a lot of other festool tools for the price so I know I couldn't pass it up.

Yes I saw this last night as well. I am just trying to see if there was any better marketing materials or instruction pamphlets about the SPR 800 Rapid and SPR 1400 Rapid. I believe SPR stood for Single Purpose Rail; but this is an assumption, I know the 800 and 1400 are just the overall length in metric. An The Rapid for the FS Rapid Clamp system as shown in your picture. Ill reach out to Festool and see if maybe they can give me a better understanding of the versatility of the tool other then being a rip fence, quick router fence, straight line etc.

 

[JonnyBBravo]

[member=25351]rst[/member] Yes, I understand that the FS Rapid Clamps themselves can be used in many different ways. My question is more specifically figuring out the intent of the SPR 800 & 1400 models. As in its incorporation to the festool ecosystem. But thanks for your response.

 

[guybo]

Hi, makes a good third hand.

 

[JonnyBBravo]

[member=58842]guybo[/member]  That is very True. Thank you again for showing me this picture again. I noticed the part Order numbers are listed so I will now call back to Festool Application Support and see what they can advise me with the part numbers listed below in the picture. I saw this on my cellphone last night as well but didn't see the item number but on my computer I am able to see. So thank you again for making me look back at this. Guide system/multifunction table - Festool Power Tools Page 329 (Is the item in question)

So I just got of the phone with the Applications Support Team at Festool and was advised they didn't even know what the part was to honest. An that they did not have any materials on the item.

The only thing I am able to find on the internet are a few EBay postings in Germany and Netherlands on the items. I am just trying to figure out if I wanna keep these as you can connect the rails via a FS Guide Connector (Festool 482107) to make a very long bar with clamping length at a total of 3000mm. But just trying to see what exactly the top rails could be used for other than rigging in a clamp or something to that effect. I'll posted a few extra pictures of the profile from the end of the rail to show what I am talking about on the original post I presented above.

A few other views of it on a NL website can be seen here NL Festool profile SPR 1400 Rapid tension profile (Pictures)


I also found this in German. But thank goodness for Google Translate. So the seller says he bought the item for USD $239.76 (205 Euros). German Ebay Post of Festool SPR 1400 RAPID Rail.(Pictures and Purchased Price)

Researching Updates

Interesting So a little more google searching and I found a reference of the SPR 1400 in Jerry Works "Advanced Cutting and Routing Techniques Using the Festool MFS Fence System" on Page 47 "In this case I am using the SPR 1400 Rapid clamping arms as fences for a sliding compound miter saw station. A glue on measuring tape added to the top and some shop-built stops shown here really add versatility and speed of use. No one at Festool probably ever envi- sioned someone using these clamping arms for this purpose, but for me they work really well for this application. When I need them for the clamps, I just loosen a couple of bolts that fit into the “T” track on the back side of these arms and they slide right off. The point I want to make here is to mix and match the Festool system combo use. Components as much as you like without worrying about what someone else might consider “normal” or “abnormal.” If it works for you and provides a safe and productive set up, you have proven it is right for you."

Pictures below from Jerry Work MFS Template Guide. Page 47.

So I am again going to reach out to Festool Application Support and see what they can advise me on with Order No. 490189 (SPR 800 RAPID Model) 490190 (SPR 1400 Model RAPID). Awaiting a call back from Festool Application Support on the topic and will update this posting with the information if any gained.

So I just got off the phone with the man himself Jerry Work. I shared with him that he was the only person that I could find in the world to possibly help me in understanding the functionality of this tool in question. I was fortunate enough to find his website which lead me to his contact information and I am also awaiting his response. Jerry Works Website for those whom may of not known is The Dovetail Joint. I was also advised he wrote quite a few materials on the tools with the company in the past but has not kept in touch with the current group of folks. So just sharing with where I am at with understanding this tools functionality and also plan to reach out to Sedge on his Youtube Channel as recommended by Jerry. As he mentioned Sedge should remember the tool in question. I will update this post accordingly as any new information is shared or gained about the topic.

Here are Jerry Works Detailed Guides as well that he himself has written Jerry Works How To Guides For Festool Tools & Other Products

Jerry Works Comments: "Festool made a lot of different aluminum profile, many with the same T slots or the inverted dovetail slot as in the router templates.  These were used with different components, like the Rapid clamps.  Those clamps will fit the underside of a standard guide rail or will fit into a profile that could be used as a fence or stop.  My comment about using them as rails on a miter saw simply allowed me to make and set stops by sliding a stop into the T track on that profile.  The profile was held to the table by a nut sliding in the edge T slot.  Most of the profile T slots accept an 8mm nut which you can screw into to hold something to the profile.  Think of Festool items as like Erector set components where you can configure them for different purposes.  One very useful simple component is a knob made in two pieces so the top can pop off of the body.  Inside is a shape that will hold either an 8mm bolt or nut.  When you pop the top back on the bolt or nut is held firmly in place.  With that you can make knobs for fastening all kinds of things together with different length bolts.  As I recall I used those to secure the stops to the rails on the miter saw.  I substituted a Kapex for that miter saw as soon as the Kapex came into the US market so I haven’t used that set up for years."

 

[JonnyBBravo]

On a Side Note I have found some information pertaining to another Item that has been also cancelled due to low product sales that being the FESTOOL MFS 200, MFS 400, MFS 700, MFS 1000, MFS 2000. Here is the screen shot of the manual that can be found on Festool Spareparts Website: partsFestool Spare Parts Link

Once in Ekat go to "Routing" >Routers> Accessories For Routers> MFS 400/700 - FS/VP - APS An this will take you to the parts section of the item for mainly the small replacement parts; not the MFS Rails. See Pictures below if you get lost.

 

[Mr_Mod]

I know there is a supplier in the USA who has the SPR 800 &1400 but is totally unwilling to ship to Australia. I wish i had a way to get them.

 

[JonnyBBravo]

[member=20220]Mr_Mod[/member] thats need to me to be honest as it’s been discontinued for quite some time.

 

[Mr_Mod]

yes, been at least 10 years. When i contacted the seller in mid December he still had stock

 

[Coen]

On a Side Note I have found some information pertaining to another Item that has been also cancelled due to low product sales that being the FESTOOL MFS 200, MFS 400, MFS 700, MFS 1000, MFS 2000. Here is the screen shot of the manual that can be found on Festool Spareparts Website: partsFestool Spare Parts Link

Once in Ekat go to "Routing" >Routers> Accessories For Routers> MFS 400/700 - FS/VP - APS An this will take you to the parts section of the item for mainly the small replacement parts; not the MFS Rails. See Pictures below if you get lost.

MFS profiles aren't cancelled. Maybe only for the USA.

you can connect the rails via a FS Guide Connector (Festool 482107) to make a very long bar with clamping length at a total of 3000mm

That's definitely not intended for clamping, as the guide rail connectors were never designed to hold such forces.