First Aid Systainer

[hdv]

It is a bright orange mini-systainer. I cheated a bit. If you were to look underneath the sticker on the lid you would see a BTI logo.    [big grin]

 

[Systainer.Store]

Nice work on your MINI!  That looks easy and noticeable. 

As an engineer, I struggled with following the standard of green/white or red/white.  What I decided is the sticker/decals I produce will have a couple varieties.  This way you can outfit your red systainer with what labeling you would like.  Boy, this will wreak havoc on those that are color blind with red/green! 

 

[hdv]

Another thing to keep in mind is the dispute over the use of the red/white/plus combination. This wikipedia page is an interesting read on the topic. In short: both the international Red Cross organisation and Johnson & Johnson claim it is theirs to use. And you thought only the color blind would be confused...?  [blink]

 

[Systainer.Store]

I'm planning on just white crosses. 

 

[Dick Mahany]

All of this discussion prompted me to go have a look inside my trusty OLD first aid kit.  Glad I did because many of the items were really shot after over 15 years of sitting mostly unused (fortunately). 

I started thinking about trying to replace the appropriate items and put them into a mini systainer, but when I looked at what else I would like to add to the kit, they wouldn't fit the mini.  So I'm thinking a Sys 1 first aid kit would be a great solution.

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[Cheese]

All of this discussion prompted me to go have a look inside my trusty OLD first aid kit.  Glad I did because many of the items were really shot after over 15 years of sitting mostly unused (fortunately). 

And that's the conundrum Dick. If you let vegetables just sit in a bowl on the counter and if they're not consumed, they all spoil eventually.

I have a WOW mini and I'm sure some of the contents are toast at this point.

While I'm really glad I didn't have to use the contents, it does become an annoyance as those perceived to be frequently used spoiled items do need to be replenished on a continual basis.

 

[MikeGE]

All of this discussion prompted me to go have a look inside my trusty OLD first aid kit.  Glad I did because many of the items were really shot after over 15 years of sitting mostly unused (fortunately).

All of the DIN first aid kits here have expiration dates on the box, usually five to ten years after purchase depending on how long they have been sitting on the shelf.  First aid kits are mandatory for vehicles and are inspection items during the vehicle safety inspection.  An out of date first aid kit will cause a vehicle to fail its safety inspection.

Fortunately, only those sterilized items that come into direct contact with the wound have to be changed, and the other items, such as tape, gauze, and external bandages, don't have expiration dates.  Unfortunately, I haven't found any supplemental date stickers to attach to the first aid kit to identify the new expiration date, so the path of least resistance is to replace the kit in its entirety.

 

[Systainer.Store]

The vehicle inspection thing is a European requirement?  Or Germany specific?  Private vehicles or business vehicles?  I'm curious, as there isn't such a thing in Michigan.  In some US states I know there is a vehicle emissions check. 

 

[MikeGE]

The vehicle inspection thing is a European requirement?  Or Germany specific?  Private vehicles or business vehicles?  I'm curious, as there isn't such a thing in Michigan.  In some US states I know there is a vehicle emissions check.

I dont' know if it is a European requirement, but it is certainly a requirement in Germany for all vehicles except motorcycles.  The vehicle safety inspection list includes a valid first aid kit, warning triangle for roadside emergencies, and safety vests for all occupants of the vehicle (although two vests seems to be the accepted limit).

When taking a vehicle in for the biennial inspection, the first aid kit, warning triangle, and vests must be placed on the passenger seat so the inspector can see them and verify the date on the first aid kit.

Germany is also brutal on the emissions inspections.  Large cities, such as Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Wiesbaden, Munich, and Berlin, created a restricted area around the city, called the "Umweltzone" (environmental zone), that prohibits all vehicles that do not meet at least the Euro 4 standard.  Vehicles that meet this standard have a green decal in the lower right corner of the windshield, and the owner of any vehicle driving or parking in the Umweltzone that doesn't have the Euro 4 decal will receive a fine of at least €105 (about $120).  Unfortunately for the vehicle owner, these fines are cumulative and passing through multiple inspection points in a single trip result in multiple fines.

 

[Systainer.Store]

Thank you for the details [member=70363]MikeGE[/member] I appreciate learning a bit more about your part of the world. 

For all those interested in the first aid systainer we've been talking about, I put together a Google Form where you can note your interest.  This isn't a preorder, but I would like to get a clear indication of interest.  Once we get closer to receiving the stock, we will use this list to contact for preorders.  In addition, the survey has some questions to understand what kind of labels you would want to put on the unit.  Ideally I design a "variety sheet" of labels and you can customize it to your hearts content.  Though if I need to limit the labels to limit the cost, I'd like to understand preferences. 

Go ahead and fill out the form here: https://forms.gle/SzB9rGEFMcDTdjEx6

Thank you - Sys Tim

 

[Systainer.Store]

I've gotten several great responses on the Google Form linked above, for those that want to indicate interest and get in on the first batch.  Already it is looking like I may have to order a second batch, which is a good thing!

I'll give it a couple more days before I post this form on our Instagram and Email list, since the idea originated in the form, I want to give you a head start to get on the list and share your opinions.

 

[Bob D.]

not to throw a monkey wrench into this, but I was just getting some electrical tools from my SYS-SB to replace a wall outlet and thought the SYS-Storage Box (SYS-SB 499901) with the cantilever trays might make a good First Aid box. It's only a couple bucks more that a Sys-2 and quick access to everything. Don't need a divider or tray cause it's built in. See through top lets you know right where stuff is. Big items on the bottom but you don't have to drag everything out, just fold the top tray out of the way to access the bottom compartment.
https://www.festoolusa.com/products/systainer,-sortainer-and-systainer-port/systainer/499901---sys-sb

 

[Tattoo]

Do we have any idea on availability yet?

 

[Systainer.Store]

Do we have any idea on availability yet?

Product was ordered a couple weeks ago.  They are in the container on a boat from Germany.  Still targeting middle of June.
This week I've struck up a conversation at a local industrial label maker too see if we can work together on the labels.  This week or weekend and into next week I plan to noodle on the label designs.  Hopefully I can kick off label printing next week though there needs to a bit more discussion and quoting and a chance I'll have to find an different supplier.  I'm hoping to work locally (Grand Rapids/West Michigan).

 

[Tattoo]

Do we have any idea on availability yet?

Product was ordered a couple weeks ago.  They are in the container on a boat from Germany.  Still targeting middle of June.
This week I've struck up a conversation at a local industrial label maker too see if we can work together on the labels.  This week or weekend and into next week I plan to noodle on the label designs.  Hopefully I can kick off label printing next week though there needs to a bit more discussion and quoting and a chance I'll have to find an different supplier.  I'm hoping to work locally (Grand Rapids/West Michigan).

Thanks for the update.

Cheers

 

[Systainer.Store]

On Saturday I received a "First Aid Refill" kit I ordered on Amazon that cost just under US $13.  Specifically I ordered this one:  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YM8MPO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

I got this one to have as a test for the contents inside the first aid systainer.  Right now I'm not planning on providing contents, but lets see how this goes.  I've attached two pictures showing the kit contents on my workbench, and the contents thrown into a SYS-I, so you can get a sense of volume required by the elements.  I can't wait to get a Vario2 in to see how the contents may be organized in that.  If any of you have a Vario2, and want to purchase the above to give an idea of volume or organization, I'd love to see pictures.  Right now I suspect that this refill kit will fit nicely, but nothing is like having the real thing to play around with.

 

[Systainer.Store]

A quick update.  I heard that the container should arrive in port at the end of this week, so Tanos USA may have it next week and then break the container down into the individual shipments. So, I could have stock of the red/white "Sys-Aid" by June 14th.

On the label front, my local company wasn't able to offer what we are looking, they mostly do single labels on large reels.  I'm looking more for a sheet kind of label and the guy I was working with was great because he referred to a company that is now working on a quote. 

Later this week I hope to start going through my preorder list based on the survey responses. If you didn't get a chance to respond to the survey, email me at hello[member=68900]Systainer.Store[/member] and I'll add your name to the preorder list.  In the email indicate how many you are interested in.

Based on the survey, it looks like I'll be ordering a second batch.

Once I get label art work confirmed and order, I'll share the designs with the forum. 

 

[Systainer.Store]

Another quick update.  On Wednesday Tanos USA informed me of a delay in the container arriving at port/warehouse.  It looks like I may have product around the 19th now instead of next week, so maybe a week delay. 

I'm working with a label vendor, things are promising and next steps is to get pricing and lead times.  It is taking them a few days to work through their process.  Once I know more, I'll post the details here.

Meanwhile I'd like to get pre-sales going.  It may be a bit tough without seeing the labels, however they will be user applied so you have the option to use them or not.  That and I hope to get label details tomorrow and put pre-sale up this weekend or sooner. 

Product name:
I was thinking SYS-Aid
Another person recommended Firstainer
Throwing something out there it could be SYS-FA

Any preference?  Any other recommendations?

 

[Bob D.]

Some possibilities that have been bouncing around in my head the past few days.

FIRSTaider

FIRSTainer

SYS-AIDE

 

[Systainer.Store]

What about FIRSTaider Systainer?