Give me an excuse to come up with version 2 for this MFT sysport
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Sparktrician
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Nice job on V2, Steve. Well done.
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Very neat. I have just brought an mft so I think I will be building one of these.
Do you have any plans you could send over? [wink]
Cheers
Jimmy
Do you have any plans you could send over? [wink]
Cheers
Jimmy
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Thats a very good looking setup. You mentioned that you are willing to share the plans - I would be very interested to receive a copy.
Thanks in advance,
Mike
Thanks in advance,
Mike
The thing about the plans is here they are - now you see my hesitation. [eek]
The accessory drawer slides are these.
The Systainer slides are these.
The double locking 100mm high casters are here.
I used 5mm dominos for all the joinery. The accessory drawers ended up 120mm tall arranged 3 high in the 400mm side space.
I used 1" dowel cut into slices that fit in the corner of the folded MFT and screwed to the top to keep it aligned to the top and prevent it from sliding off.
The accessory drawer slides are these.
The Systainer slides are these.
The double locking 100mm high casters are here.
I used 5mm dominos for all the joinery. The accessory drawers ended up 120mm tall arranged 3 high in the 400mm side space.
I used 1" dowel cut into slices that fit in the corner of the folded MFT and screwed to the top to keep it aligned to the top and prevent it from sliding off.
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sprior said:
sprior - V2 looks lovely. Any particular reason you chose to go with one-deep drawers on both sides, instead of two-deep drawers on one side ? Isn't it a pain having to go around to get something ?
Hadn't considered that, but pulling out the drawer twice as far to get to the inner Systainer doesn't sound as appealing to me, but I guess that would be personal preference.
On a side note:
I originally planned to drill shelf pin holes 16mm on center instead of the regular 32mm to avoid wasting any vertical space, but ended up not drilling any holes and will just mount the Systainer shelves as needed. I'd have to stagger the holes so they didn't line up.
On a side note:
I originally planned to drill shelf pin holes 16mm on center instead of the regular 32mm to avoid wasting any vertical space, but ended up not drilling any holes and will just mount the Systainer shelves as needed. I'd have to stagger the holes so they didn't line up.
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sprior said:
Thanks for the cut list.
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Thank you!! That is great!
All the sizes in the cut list do NOT include the thickness of edge banding (which is optional). I did edge band all the visible edges, but lets face it that's just being OCD.
The drawer bottom sizes assume a 1/4" deep dado in the sides and front/back. I cut the dados all the way through and then hid them on the front/back with the edge banding. If you don't edge band then you can stop the dados on the front/back so they don't show, or just don't worry about it.
The drawer bottom sizes assume a 1/4" deep dado in the sides and front/back. I cut the dados all the way through and then hid them on the front/back with the edge banding. If you don't edge band then you can stop the dados on the front/back so they don't show, or just don't worry about it.
I'm happy to report that forum member Luzzy picked up MFT Cabinet V1 this morning and we had the rushed kind of conversation that Festool fans have when they're trying to tell stories and dump as much info as possible at each other as fast as possible while someone is waiting in the car. [big grin]
Also some progress on the V2 cabinet - a start on the Systainer shelves. Ultimately I want each Systainer on its own shelf, but it's going to take a while. I also went with full extension drawer slides so I could have storage on both sides of the cabinet without expanding its footprint beyond the MFT. I'm using 1/2" plywood for the shelves to squeeze a little extra vertical space which makes it a little tricky because the slide hardware is wider than the shelf is thick, but I made some 7/32" thick spacers which center the plywood on the slide piece. What I'm not crazy about is that the slide hardware has more resistance to finally close it, but that means it's more difficult to start to pull out the shelf. The trick is that I don't have any extra room for a pull for the shelf so it has to be easy to get the shelf out without much to grab on to - time will tell.
At first I thought I was going to make the front stop block match the angle of the front of the Systainer, but it turns out the Systainer is curved and not a simple angle. I cut the pieces at a 40 degree angle and will stick with it, but a 90 degree cut would have worked just fine. I beveled the top of the back stop block to make it easier to drop the Systainer in place.
It'll be interesting to see if I can fit a shelf for 3 Systainers on the left side and still have enough clearance.
Also some progress on the V2 cabinet - a start on the Systainer shelves. Ultimately I want each Systainer on its own shelf, but it's going to take a while. I also went with full extension drawer slides so I could have storage on both sides of the cabinet without expanding its footprint beyond the MFT. I'm using 1/2" plywood for the shelves to squeeze a little extra vertical space which makes it a little tricky because the slide hardware is wider than the shelf is thick, but I made some 7/32" thick spacers which center the plywood on the slide piece. What I'm not crazy about is that the slide hardware has more resistance to finally close it, but that means it's more difficult to start to pull out the shelf. The trick is that I don't have any extra room for a pull for the shelf so it has to be easy to get the shelf out without much to grab on to - time will tell.
At first I thought I was going to make the front stop block match the angle of the front of the Systainer, but it turns out the Systainer is curved and not a simple angle. I cut the pieces at a 40 degree angle and will stick with it, but a 90 degree cut would have worked just fine. I beveled the top of the back stop block to make it easier to drop the Systainer in place.
It'll be interesting to see if I can fit a shelf for 3 Systainers on the left side and still have enough clearance.
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Sprior,
+1 on thanks for openly sharing ideas, plans, cutlist, materials, etc. I am re-entering the Festool world after a several year hiatus. I sold my TS55 and Domino (forunately got virtually of my investment back) and decided to go into a lathe-only shop since instant gratification works best with turning.
Anyway, I kept my favorite sanders, MFT2-1080 and MFT3 tables, and just picked up a new ts55req and new (and improved?) Domino so I'm raring to go. 1st project--mft table with systainer storage. So this thread is over the top for being right on point.
One question though. I had also decided to go with 1/2" on the systainer platforms. Why not use lighter duty, typical kitchen drawer (white) slides- they come in full extension. Wouldnt they fit 1/2" stock better and pull easier?
Thanks
Dave
+1 on thanks for openly sharing ideas, plans, cutlist, materials, etc. I am re-entering the Festool world after a several year hiatus. I sold my TS55 and Domino (forunately got virtually of my investment back) and decided to go into a lathe-only shop since instant gratification works best with turning.
Anyway, I kept my favorite sanders, MFT2-1080 and MFT3 tables, and just picked up a new ts55req and new (and improved?) Domino so I'm raring to go. 1st project--mft table with systainer storage. So this thread is over the top for being right on point.
One question though. I had also decided to go with 1/2" on the systainer platforms. Why not use lighter duty, typical kitchen drawer (white) slides- they come in full extension. Wouldnt they fit 1/2" stock better and pull easier?
Thanks
Dave
Now he tells me... [big grin]
My first version used cheap white drawer slides, but I've never seen full extension versions of them (got a link?). The only problem with them was that being 3/4 extension I had to make them deeper in order to be able to pull the Systainer out enough to just about clear the front and open while on the shelf. That left me with too little room on the back side for another set of shelves. The only thing I don't like about the slides I went with is that they provide resistance at the end of closing/beginning of opening so since I don't have pulls I end up using both hands to open a drawer. Though the benefit is that while I'm moving the table the drawers don't open by themselves.
Using the 1/2" material for the shelves did save me the space I needed to stack 3 Systainers in one bay and leave just enough finger room to get at them.
I'm just in the process of finishing up the shelves on the back, then this project will be completely done. I managed to get the width of the Systainer bays fairly accurate - the shelves have only varied from 400mm to 402mm.
My first version used cheap white drawer slides, but I've never seen full extension versions of them (got a link?). The only problem with them was that being 3/4 extension I had to make them deeper in order to be able to pull the Systainer out enough to just about clear the front and open while on the shelf. That left me with too little room on the back side for another set of shelves. The only thing I don't like about the slides I went with is that they provide resistance at the end of closing/beginning of opening so since I don't have pulls I end up using both hands to open a drawer. Though the benefit is that while I'm moving the table the drawers don't open by themselves.
Using the 1/2" material for the shelves did save me the space I needed to stack 3 Systainers in one bay and leave just enough finger room to get at them.
I'm just in the process of finishing up the shelves on the back, then this project will be completely done. I managed to get the width of the Systainer bays fairly accurate - the shelves have only varied from 400mm to 402mm.
Well, I thought I had seen the cheap whites in 100# full extension, but maybe I dreamt it, since I can't find them again today.
I have, though, used KV slides before and found them less expensive but well-made. Interesting that the first review says they won't come open by themselves. I think I will try these:
http://www.amazon.com/Economical-Extension-Drawer-Slide-Rating/dp/B0019FSF4I/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1393263430&sr=1-1&keywords=14%22+full+extension+slides
I have, though, used KV slides before and found them less expensive but well-made. Interesting that the first review says they won't come open by themselves. I think I will try these:
http://www.amazon.com/Economical-Extension-Drawer-Slide-Rating/dp/B0019FSF4I/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1393263430&sr=1-1&keywords=14%22+full+extension+slides
Those should be fine, I guess I didn't do a ton of shopping around and was filtering on what was available via Amazon Prime.
I ended up needing 10 14" full extension slides and 6 accessory drawer slides. Your mix of Systainers will affect the result and I played around for a bit to figure out which tools go on front and back and which way they stack for maximum space and usage efficiency which involved a couple of compromises.
I ended up needing 10 14" full extension slides and 6 accessory drawer slides. Your mix of Systainers will affect the result and I played around for a bit to figure out which tools go on front and back and which way they stack for maximum space and usage efficiency which involved a couple of compromises.
Sprior
Just throwing out an idea from the sailing world.....
If it was my mft table I would stick with the slides you have, because as you have already said the draws stay closed when on the move. This is good. To address the no finger pull/draw handle issue I would use some 5mm control line (thick string) to make a loop to pull on. This loop could be pulled back tight (don't want loops for things to hang up on, the extractor hose does enough of that on its own!) by some elastic mounted to the underside of the 1/2" draw platform. I can elaborate more on endless take away systems if you like this idea but fear I may be loosing people already!
Good luck with the rest of the table it's looking great so far
Jamie
Just throwing out an idea from the sailing world.....
If it was my mft table I would stick with the slides you have, because as you have already said the draws stay closed when on the move. This is good. To address the no finger pull/draw handle issue I would use some 5mm control line (thick string) to make a loop to pull on. This loop could be pulled back tight (don't want loops for things to hang up on, the extractor hose does enough of that on its own!) by some elastic mounted to the underside of the 1/2" draw platform. I can elaborate more on endless take away systems if you like this idea but fear I may be loosing people already!
Good luck with the rest of the table it's looking great so far
Jamie
Thanks Jak, I like the idea and will keep it in mind. I could see two holes in the front retaining piece with an elastic cord through them ending in two little knobs (I can turn on the lathe), so you cna pull either one of them and they will be the other end of the cord for each other. For now though I'm going to use it as is for a while and see how it works. I don't want to rush to solve a problem before I know for sure that it is a problem.
