Goliath to slay Shaper Origin ?

Mark Katz said:
What am I missing here?

With all its limitations, you can order a Shaper Origin today and have it delivered soon and it will likely work to the extent it can.

Despite $1,072,544 in funding by 716 people (average of about $1500 per person), a funding drive in 2017 and a schedule that shows shipment in the fall of 2018, it appears that people are still waiting for their Goliath units. Read the comments on the Kickstarter page, including recent ones. And the founders are not giving as much as a hint as to when units will actually ship.

So why would a vaporware product be considered a slayer of an established product?
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Again... we need a like button on this forum!

Cheers. Bryan.

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Mark Katz said:
What am I missing here?
With all its limitations, you can order a Shaper Origin today and have it delivered soon and it will likely work to the extent it can.
Despite $1,072,544 in funding by 716 people (average of about $1500 per person), a funding drive in 2017 and a schedule that shows shipment in the fall of 2018, it appears that people are still waiting for their Goliath units. Read the comments on the Kickstarter page, including recent ones. And the founders are not giving as much as a hint as to when units will actually ship.
So why would a vaporware product be considered a slayer of an established product?
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The original post (and the title) was written in 2017, when everything you describe was unknown. Had you predicted this outcome 2017, you would have a different story here.
 
I looked at the kickstarter page for Goliath CNC.  It appears that they are just about to shop the first set of units.  Much later than the August/September 2018 original dates.

The other thing I noticed is that they have their own design software, the reason for this as shown in the FAQ is:

"We do not suggest to use a G-code generated from other CAM software because it will not take into account the wheels position to create the path of the robot. This may cause the machine falling into pockets or moves on the already carved surface. For this reason, we are developing our own CAM software."

This seems like a significant limitation to me for this product.   

I suppose the Shaper Origin could have the same issue for some designs, but it has a wide base that may make this it a minor problem, unlike the Goliath wheels.  Clearly an area where a gantry style CNC has an advantage.

Bob
 
Bob D. said:
Sounds a lot like the Znaps scam that ran on there a couple years ago. They kept pushing the launch date and never delivered anything.
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Possible, I suspect in this case, building a working reliable product was considerably harder than the prototype.  Hard to tell.

Bob
 
the prototype is the easy part of hard. The production is the nearly impossible part. Manufacturing a complex product is vastly harder than people think. I live in the R&D world as an engineer. I can think of several reasons why this is going to go nowhere.
 
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