Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)

Dane · Jul 30, 2016

Just saw one at Kenyon Noble hardware in Bozeman, MT. Bet they'd ship it to you.

dalep · Jul 31, 2016

A real pain in the , both the SE-HL (850) and the SE-EHL (65) have been discontinued

I managed to snag the SE-EHL from a dealer in the Netherlands.

Its one of those little parts thats REALLY handy!

Dale

plgard · Aug 1, 2016

Dane said:
Just saw one at Kenyon Noble hardware in Bozeman, MT. Bet they'd ship it to you.

Thanks Dane!

Kenyon Noble had it and they're shipping it to me!

I appreciate the help! : )

Stephen Coff · Nov 29, 2016

Ok so i just brought the 850 and found that the bench unit (SE-HL) was discontinued which is a little disappointing as so handy. Despite having a chat and scoring the Festool reps demo cheap I did find another avenue I thought i would share to any interested. You can buy all the parts individually and build one and costs were nearly the same price.

mjh2157 · Nov 29, 2016

Thank you! Any chance you have the part #'s handy?

Stephen Coff · Dec 11, 2016

I'm sorry i don't though your shop can easily work them out its only a handful of parts.

Shane Holland · Dec 11, 2016

Stephen Coff said:
I'm sorry i don't though your shop can easily work them out its only a handful of parts.

According tohttp://ekat.festool.com, you can find the schematic under Planing > SE-HL. Here's the parts list, quantities and prices in USD. You can order spare parts directly from Festool USA. Being a discontinued item, they may or may not have all of these.

Part No.	Description	Qty	Price
715167	Scale	1	7.09
715146	Bracket	1	17.49
228547	Cheese head screw M6 x 10	6	0.91
774010	Spring disc	6	1.27
228566	Square nut M6	8	0.91
612050	Plate	1	51.61
400598	Screw M6 x 60	1	1.27
200578	Washer 6,4 mm	1	0.91
228726	Circlip	1	1.24
200457	Pendulum guard	1	10.14
200460	Torsion spring	1	5.33
200458	Axle	1	4.2
200499	Rotary knob	2	7.54
200456	Clamp	1	7.74
200462	Support	1	66.76
200390	Sleeve	2	2.07
402875	Cheese head screw M6 x 20	1	0.91
715156	Slip piece	1	7.02
203806	Raised-head screw M4 x 8	1	0.91
200762	Spring disc	1	0.91
200463	Indicator	1	7.54
772405	Threaded pin M6 x 10	1	0.91
436195	Rotary knob	2	0.91
200450	Swiveling segment	1	15.87
200461	Stop	1	29.81
440712	Rotary knob M6	1	1.43
715148	Bolt	1	10.4
200454	Holder	1	25.55
440158	Chain	1	2.6

Stephen Coff · Dec 12, 2016

Thats awesome Shane, thanks for the time. Here in Australia I know they could source all the parts and was slightly higher price than the complete unit. So if all else fails this is a solution

antss · Dec 12, 2016

Shane - shouldn't they have parts for ten years form the discont. date ???

Shane Holland · Dec 12, 2016

antss said:
Shane - shouldn't they have parts for ten years form the discont. date ???

For tools. I don't think accessories fall under the same policy.

But admittedly, they should update the FUSA website for clarity.
https://www.festoolusa.com/service/

10-Year Parts Availability
Festool guarantees availability of spare parts for 10 years after the product is discontinued. If we no longer stock a spare part for the period specified, you will receive a new machine free of charge as a replacement.

Kodi Crescent · Dec 16, 2016

This may be an opportunity for a dealer here. Dealers could purchase several sets of parts, sort them and packages them as "Build your own functional Festool accessory" bundles. Assembly instructions may need to be created. If the dealers can negotiate a better Ekat price than the end user, the dealer gets some form of profit incentive. Add in a bit of extra for instructions and packaging. The dealer makes money, the customer gets a convenient purchasing experience, a useful accessory, and an adult tinker-toy building experience.

PreferrablyWood · Dec 23, 2016

I did the math on the parts it's not really a good idea economically.

Kodi Crescent · Dec 27, 2016

It may not be a good idea economically, but if given no other choice it may be the only option.

PreferrablyWood · Dec 27, 2016

Kodi Crescent said:
It may not be a good idea economically, but if given no other choice it may be the only option.

True enough, I'd say keep checking on the usual places for used gear.

some possible other routes

DIY version with a long in feed and out feed table.

Using a router for edge jointing with a long straight bit, I have a CMT 2 1/4 straight bit, which I can use on the OF 2200 in the CMS with the OF module.

Edge jointing with a tracksaw but does not work for short or smaller pieces though.

jointing with a hand plane on a bench..

Get a real jointer used..

mjh2157 · Dec 28, 2016

Hi,

Mmtoolparts.com has one more left. Call them at +1 (877) 583-7278 and ask to speak to customer service.. I just ordered the other one they had.

Best Regards,
Matt

ScotF · Dec 28, 2016

I think that a few dealers have them around if you look hard enough -- my local Woodcraft had one left and I was in a store in Boulder, CO in late October and they still had one left on the shelf.

worldburger · Dec 17, 2017

Shane Holland said:
Stephen Coff said:

I'm sorry i don't though your shop can easily work them out its only a handful of parts.

Click to expand...

According tohttp://ekat.festool.com, you can find the schematic under Planing > SE-HL. Here's the parts list, quantities and prices in USD. You can order spare parts directly from Festool USA. Being a discontinued item, they may or may not have all of these.

Part No. Description Qty Price
715167 Scale 1 7.09
715146 Bracket 1 17.49
228547 Cheese head screw M6 x 10 6 0.91
774010 Spring disc 6 1.27
228566 Square nut M6 8 0.91
612050 Plate 1 51.61
400598 Screw M6 x 60 1 1.27
200578 Washer 6,4 mm 1 0.91
228726 Circlip 1 1.24
200457 Pendulum guard 1 10.14
200460 Torsion spring 1 5.33
200458 Axle 1 4.2
200499 Rotary knob 2 7.54
200456 Clamp 1 7.74
200462 Support 1 66.76
200390 Sleeve 2 2.07
402875 Cheese head screw M6 x 20 1 0.91
715156 Slip piece 1 7.02
203806 Raised-head screw M4 x 8 1 0.91
200762 Spring disc 1 0.91
200463 Indicator 1 7.54
772405 Threaded pin M6 x 10 1 0.91
436195 Rotary knob 2 0.91
200450 Swiveling segment 1 15.87
200461 Stop 1 29.81
440712 Rotary knob M6 1 1.43
715148 Bolt 1 10.4
200454 Holder 1 25.55
440158 Chain 1 2.6

This is some creative thinking, S. Thanks.

Unfortunately, it nets to about $300, though, am I right?

Would you say this is still the only way to reasonably mount the 850 inverted? Any other ideas up that sleeve of yours?

Shane Holland · Dec 17, 2017

[member=22929]worldburger[/member], the only other options I can think of are to look on the classifieds or ask one of the forums members on the other side of the pond to help you out.

Cheese · Dec 17, 2017

I stopped at Woodcraft today to pick up some Dominos. While I was there I asked them if they would search to see if the HL 850 bench unit (485 017) was lingering in a dormant state in one of their branches/warehouses. They searched all Woodcraft stores in the US. The answer...NADA.

Coen · Dec 24, 2017

In the Netherlands I can still find multiple websites that list it as "stocked" with prices between ~ €105-125 incl 21% VAT, excl shipping.

But I wouldn't put any money on that stock indicator being accurate..

Heads up - HL 850 Bench Unit Discontinued (US)

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