HKC 55 EB review
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Hilti have just launched the 21.6 volt SC 70W-A22 cordless circular saw.
It will chop 70mm @ 90 degrees and 51mm @ 45 degrees.
That means for you guys in America it will cut your dimensional 2 X lumber @45 degrees because its not really 2 inches thick at all. [big grin]
Its some other size which is well below the 51mm thick capacity of the SC 70W-A22 when set to 45 degrees. [wink] 8)
But Hilti don't seem to have cottoned on to these clever rail systems that mafell and festool are using.
Maybe that's the saw for you Arvid?
It will chop 70mm @ 90 degrees and 51mm @ 45 degrees.
That means for you guys in America it will cut your dimensional 2 X lumber @45 degrees because its not really 2 inches thick at all. [big grin]
Its some other size which is well below the 51mm thick capacity of the SC 70W-A22 when set to 45 degrees. [wink] 8)
But Hilti don't seem to have cottoned on to these clever rail systems that mafell and festool are using.
Maybe that's the saw for you Arvid?
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Lbob131 said:
Dude, is there some medication you can take to improve your memory?
Read your own reply #123.
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Lbob131 said:
Pay attention dude!
The Hilti UK site.
Okay, if you mean Hilti's rail is a "dumb" rail compared to the "clever recoil" rails of Mafell and Festool, I'll give you that. I don't think Hilti has the recoil rail yet.
A big reason this thread has gone on so long, to the point of deserving Svar"s comment, is that there are at least 2 parameters for at least two different saws being discussed (or argued about) and too few replies bother to specify which point they are addressing.
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Svar said:
[big grin]
Svar said:
feel free to move along then. many here are enjoying this discussion. if you don't like it you can ignore the thread.
We are not here for you. half the topics on here are beating a dead horse at some point to some people and others like to continue the discussion.
Michael Kellough said:
My memory is fine thanks. The 40mm spec was from my "NMA Agencies LTD" catalogue which has a mafell section. Which is clearly wrong.
The 38mm spec is from the mafell website.http://katalog.mafell.de/index.php?IdTreeGroup=12962&IdProduct=30956
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I had a chance to use my new HKC 55 and the KSS 400 side by side today after work. I only spent maybe an hour making some rafters from 2x4 scraps and miscellaneous cuts . I'll need to spend more time with the tools to make a more comprehensive comparison that is fair to both saws.
Initial impressions of the HKC are positive. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I have fairly large hands and I didn't find the handle to be a knuckle buster. Also, battery life seemed pretty good. I made maybe 40-50 cuts in 2x4s (1 1/2"x3 1/2" or 38mmx89mm) and the battery gauge still had three of three bars.
When I get a chance to use the two together more I'll try to find some time to post my thoughts.
Initial impressions of the HKC are positive. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I have fairly large hands and I didn't find the handle to be a knuckle buster. Also, battery life seemed pretty good. I made maybe 40-50 cuts in 2x4s (1 1/2"x3 1/2" or 38mmx89mm) and the battery gauge still had three of three bars.
When I get a chance to use the two together more I'll try to find some time to post my thoughts.
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I picked up a HK-55 today as well. I should have some time in the shop the next day or two, so I'll try to get some side-by-side pics and impressions of the HK-55 and the KSS-400.
Tom Gensmer said:
Looking forward to these reviews. Tell me what you think of the blade guard lever action.
I noticed the little spring and cable that raise the guard a little flimsy designed. Also noticed when raised half way or if raised slowly it did not always come back down in the closed position.
You can see how it works when you remove the blade.
View attachment 3I used my HKC today to cut stair stringers for my daughters deck. Fantastic [big grin], I used the 420 rail set for one angle and the 670 for the other. I had it hooked to a 36mm hose and vac as I was on my back porch working. I had used two regular FS 800 rails with dogs under the rails for positioning for the last two sets of stairs I made...this was much quicker and switching between rails was a breeze.
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I know I could probably get used to it, but I don't like the small knob that releases the Detent Lock on the left side of the Rails. I would rather see a spring loaded lever that's easier to use,. esp. if you've got gloves on. Minor thing, but that threaded knob just seems a bit fussy to use. Let us know what you think about that Rail detail Brice...... [popcorn]Brice Burrell said:
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leakyroof said:
The threaded knob is kind of fussy to use, because you are moving the detented stop with one hand while snugging down the screw with the other hand. However, I think it's something that you'll get used to over time, besides, you'll probably not be constantly changing angles but if you need to, I'd use 2 different rails as rst suggested. Like using one drill but swapping out one chuck for drilling and a 2nd chuck for fasteners.
Also, you do have to tighten the threaded knob at every angle setting because even if it's in a detent (every 15°) the smallest force against the rail will move the stop. [tongue]
The cordless HKC 55 is perfect for framing, decking, flooring, roofing or other work when you don't want to worry about cords or plugs. It's the right tool when you need more time and less hassle. from Facebook today.
How is it that a "perfect" saw cannot make the cuts described ad nauseum in above comments? I would post a comment on Facebook but it would likely baffle most of my friends.
How is it that a "perfect" saw cannot make the cuts described ad nauseum in above comments? I would post a comment on Facebook but it would likely baffle most of my friends.
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looking forward to receiving my new HKC55 in the next couple of days...i'm an audio video installer, so the concerns about the compound-cut limitation on 2x doesn't bother me at all....i'll never have a need for that, but totally understand the concerns by some of the framers...to be honest, most of my needs will be for putting up blocking for TVs, light framing for exhaust fans, etc...probably overkill like a lot of other festool items, but the convenience and speed of the unit is appealing to me....and I'm already committed to the tool line-up and systainer system.
I have a TS55/MFT combo at home, but who wants to take that to a jobsite for the occasional rough cut?...i think the HKC55 should be fine for me. I'll have a chance to put it to use pretty soon for some under-floor subwoofer platforms we need to build for a current project.
I have a TS55/MFT combo at home, but who wants to take that to a jobsite for the occasional rough cut?...i think the HKC55 should be fine for me. I'll have a chance to put it to use pretty soon for some under-floor subwoofer platforms we need to build for a current project.
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