HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses

[polarsea1]

I most humbly apologize - thought the only option was using the 27mm hose and I didn't read Tom's post closely.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Bill

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I purchased the HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block (496962) thinking that a block with DC could be handy even around the shop. I have become so accustomed to not having dust in the air when sanding that I now even notice it from small hand sanding jobs. Even from just cleaning up board edges. The 80 x 130 seemed like the size to get since it is about the size of most traditional blocks. It also uses the same abrasive sheets as the LS130 (which I already had) and the RTS400.

I also got two different hoses to use with it. One Anti - Static (456745) and one Non- AS (495019).

The block is a nice size with a well shaped grip. 

Seth

Thanks Seth for the write up on HSK 80 x 130, hand sanding can be just as dusty and hazadous to your health as using a power sander so this is really on my list. I'll be getting the 21.5 hose as well. Too bad i don't have a sander with a 80 x 130 pad though, means I'll have to buy paper especielly for this application.. or else make a template and cut my own..

 

[Brent Taylor]

This block sander is the small Mirka sander rebagded  in Festool trims, so the Mirka products work and fit the Festool sander. I have had mine for sometime now and could not be without it. Both will interchange pieces and parts and papers. Peter Parfitt has a wonderful piece on his site, check out his sanding dust in the workshop, quite inlighting and should be seen by anyone who is near a woodworking shop, by that I mean loved one who maybe breathing the air in the home with a shop even near it. I have brought dust and other dangerous thing into my home without thinking and harmed my wife. Once was enough to teach me to change my ways when it come to dusts, my wife has a breathing condition that is harmful to her. So think about where the dust is going and where it is landing, and get good DC products like the Festool and Mirka. B

 

[Scott B.]

Funny you should mention this piece, Seth.

We just broke it out this week and stuck synthetic steel wool on it for a super fine scrub down prior to our final satin coat on the cherry table we are finishing.

Gotta love a tool that is equally useful and wood and drywall.

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[Saskataper]

Although the Mirka and Festool vac sanding blocks look very similar they are a couple differences that make the Festool far superior in my opinion. Having used both for drywall the Festool has a built in interface pad and accepts the RTS paper meaning you can also use the interface pads for the RTS on the block. Also the base of the block has tapered edges that don't rub against adjacent walls if your sanding a corner. I didn't like the abranet at all for drywall as it leaves linear scratches in the drywall because of the waffle pattern. I do use the Mirka hose though as it I already had it but it looks pretty much the same as the grey Festool hose.

 

[andreasg]

I have the Mirka one, BUT has anyone tried Festool with the CTL SYS yet? Since the suction can not be adjusted, the CTL is struggling like as if I blocked the airflow. Would gladly change to the HSK Sanding block and hose (since it is slightly wider in diameter). Let me know if anyone knows.

 

[semenza]

I have the Mirka one, BUT has anyone tried Festool with the CTL SYS yet? Since the suction can not be adjusted, the CTL is struggling like as if I blocked the airflow. Would gladly change to the HSK Sanding block and hose (since it is slightly wider in diameter). Let me know if anyone knows.

Does the hose you are using have the suction let off at the end? That would help. Though I find that I often use both the let off and turn down the suction.

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Seth

 

[Cheese]

I have the Mirka one, BUT has anyone tried Festool with the CTL SYS yet? Since the suction can not be adjusted, the CTL is struggling like as if I blocked the airflow. Would gladly change to the HSK Sanding block and hose (since it is slightly wider in diameter). Let me know if anyone knows.

The Festool version comes with this little valve shown below. You can adjust the suction as you see fit. However, using a CT 22 on max vacuum and with the valve opened fully, there is still enough vacuum to adhere the HSK to a vertical sheetrock wall. Not by much, but it will stick lightly to the wall. That's the reason I turn down the suction on the CT 22 and then use the in-line valve to "fine tune" the amount of suction.

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[andreasg]

Well, i might help, but it's an issue even with just the hose. Without the sandingblock. Probably cutting off some length would help. I will test taking off 1 meter/40 inches.

Or how about they just upgrade this product with a possibility to adjust

A little on the fence on wether I return a Festool product for the first time or not. Need to try with a couple of electric sanders too. I never use full suction with those and my Midi either.

 

[Stone Message]

For anyone using the Dust Hub or something similar of their own, you can have a bit of extra air going in by opening an unused blast gate by a small fraction until you are happy with the noise from the CT or the suction obtained.

I have used this method with my Abranet hose and pad.

Peter

 

[rst]

Just  for information's sake, Bosch has a hose that works as well.  I don't know the # as I have had them for years.

 

[andreasg]

Thank you for your answers and suggestion. I´ve decided to return the CTL Sys. Not an easy thing to do, love the concept!!!!
But this is ment for small jobs, and the lack suction-adjustment is too big of a drawback for me.

If this issue will be solved by Festool I will for sure run back and get the updated version!

 

[Marcel71]

Can the valve be removed from the sanding block and being used for the ctl sys and f.e a rts 400 to have suction control?

 

[semenza]

Can the valve be removed from the sanding block and being used for the ctl sys and f.e a rts 400 to have suction control?

  The valve section only fits the 21.5mm hose. So , no, not with out some sort of home made adapter.

Seth

 

[Marcel71]

Seth, thanks for your reply.
Sounds good for me
So the adapter is removable and fits a 22mm hose.

So if i'm right and buy the sanding block and can use the adapter in a 22mm hose and connect to my sanders.

That sanding block is on my wishlist for a while  [big grin]

 

[semenza]

Seth, thanks for your reply.
Sounds good for me
So the adapter is removable and fits a 22mm hose.

So if i'm right and buy the sanding block and can use the adapter in a 21.5mm hose and connect to my sanders.

That sanding block is on my wishlist for a while  [big grin]

[member=51384]Marcel71[/member]  No.  The sanders have a fitting for the 27mm hose not the 21.5mm. You would need to make something to make the valve from the 21.5mm sanding block hose work on the 27mm power sander fitting.

Seth

 

[Marcel71]

Ok thanks, i'm gonna figure something. I'm gonna buy the sandingblock anyway 8)

Maybe ,when I got my sys ctl, I open it and take a look if I can build in an electronic speedcontrol myself.

 

[Holmz]

Although the Mirka and Festool vac sanding blocks look very similar they are a couple differences that make the Festool far superior in my opinion.
...

I thought they were both made by Mirka...

 

[leakyroof]

Although the Mirka and Festool vac sanding blocks look very similar they are a couple differences that make the Festool far superior in my opinion.
...

I thought they were both made by Mirka...

You're not alone with those thoughts.
I thought the same thing.. [cool]

 

[Holmz]

Although the Mirka and Festool vac sanding blocks look very similar they are a couple differences that make the Festool far superior in my opinion.
...

I thought they were both made by Mirka...

You're not alone with those thoughts.
I thought the same thing.. [cool]

It is like saying, "I would never want a VW when I could have a car designed by Ferdinand Porsche".