I Have OF1400 - Seeking Advice on OF1010

[luvmytoolz]

For anyone looking to explore or add to your router skills, the books by the late Pat Warner are an excellent introduction and advanced course.

They are long out of print but still available through a few online sources.

Here is a listing from Amazon:

Amazon.com : pat warner

Ron

I've got his book on jigs, was quite useful at the time.

 

[Coen]

80% of my routing is edge routing

My advise; get a MFK 700

(1) Would the OF1010 connect to the same hose nozzle as my TS-55 uses to connect with my CT26 for dust extraction or would I require a different nozzle?

OF 1010R is compatible with both D27 and D36 hose-ends, just like the TS 55. The 1010 (without the R) only takes the D27 hose ends.

I have all three (700,1010,1400) and they all serve their purpose. The 1010 can do almost everything, but it can't take 12mm shank bits and edge routing is awkward (even more with the 1400).

 

[Cheese]

Just for a little history, I come from a background of owning several Milwaukee routers which have always used 1/2" diameter bits. I have quite a supply of them so my first Festool router was the 1400 because it accepted 1/2" bits. It's a great router...but then I became introduced to the 1010 and the story changed suddenly, it's so nice and light & compact. The new 1010 R router also accepts the LED light module, 578055.

 

[Jim_in_PA]

I own both routers. While I use the OF1400 the most, there are many times when the lighter OF1010 is the right tool for the job if I don't want the fixed base format of another router I also own. I'd probably use the OF1010 more, but my tooling is largely .5" shank...'just how it worked out over time.

 

[North Country Woodworker]

My advise; get a MFK 700


OF 1010R is compatible with both D27 and D36 hose-ends, just like the TS 55. The 1010 (without the R) only takes the D27 hose ends.

I have all three (700,1010,1400) and they all serve their purpose. The 1010 can do almost everything, but it can't take 12mm shank bits and edge routing is awkward (even more with the 1400).

Good morning! Thank you for what you shared! It appears I have some additional research to do, as a result. I had not even considered the MFK 700 so I will look into that as yet another option to move forward. I appreciate you responded and offered what you did. I'll look into the MFK 700.

 

[North Country Woodworker]

I own both routers. While I use the OF1400 the most, there are many times when the lighter OF1010 is the right tool for the job if I don't want the fixed base format of another router I also own. I'd probably use the OF1010 more, but my tooling is largely .5" shank...'just how it worked out over time.

Good morning and thanks for responding! It does seem from you and from a good number of other FOG members that the 1010 is often the lighter and right tool for the job at hand. I appreciate you took the time to share that, and I certainly understand about the 1/2" shank bits. I have a number of 1/2" shank bits myself - and would continue to make use of the 1400, particularly with deeper/wider grooves and dadoes, at least, using the 1/2" router bits I've purchased across the past seven years.

 

[Cheese]

Out of curiosity, what's the price of 8mm cutters like in the US?

8mm bits have always been difficult to get because I had to order Festool or CMT bits from Europe. However, about a year ago Woodpeckers started to grind their own 8mm bits and offer them for sale. Here are some of the current Woodpecker 8mm offerings.
For the solid carbide bits, you pay more for the 8mm bits because the carbide rod stock is a larger diameter than the 1/4" carbide rod, while for the spoil board bits all 3 sizes are the same price...$60.
The pattern bits also vary in price again because of the diameter of the carbide rod stock.

 

[Cheese]

1010 REBQ vs 1010 EQ...the position of the controls on the REBQ are closer to those on your 1400.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

As has been stated several times above, go for it, a second router will always come in handy. OF1400 is a great unit, I have had one for many years, but the OF1010 is way ahead of it in light weight handling. It fits perfectly in a mid-size range, much more powerful than a typical trim router, but not as bulky as a full 1/2" size.
Same as Cheese, I have two of them, usually set for specific tasks. One sometimes floats, even more, since I retired last year.
As onocoffee mentioned, this is a fairly encouraging bunch. Quite a few of us have multiples of several tools. In my former employment, I regularly used more than a handful of routers, 3 different track saws and at least one of every length track, except the longest, which is no longer sold, in NA anyway.
My needs have changed some, but I still keep them all in a ready, set up, state.
MFK700 is a completely different animal. They are fantastic, especially if you do a lot of edge work. You lose the plunge aspect but gain a lot of edge functionality. The offset of the vertical base is far more stable, when cutting edge profiles.
The horizontal base is great for flush cutting applied edges. Edge banding, solid wood shelf edges, etc. are all right in its range. It is limited somewhat as far as bit length, but it's not a big problem.
8mm shanks are considerably stiffer than 1/4. For some jobs, it not a huge thing, but I prefer 8mm whenever I can get them. A few years ago, it was harder to get them in the US, but has gotten better. I do wish we were able to get the much more extensive selection that is available in Europe.
They are a little more expensive than 1/4", but it's a combination of more material and higher end brands.
I use Woodpeckers, Lee Valley, and Bosch mostly. Like I said, the Festool ones are not available here. (a few that fit the MFK700 are, but that's about it)
17 is not outrageous, 17 is not outrageous.....

 

[North Country Woodworker]

As has been stated several times above, go for it, a second router will always come in handy. OF1400 is a great unit, I have had one for many years, but the OF1010 is way ahead of it in light weight handling. It fits perfectly in a mid-size range, much more powerful than a typical trim router, but not as bulky as a full 1/2" size.
Same as Cheese, I have two of them, usually set for specific tasks. One sometimes floats, even more, since I retired last year.
As onocoffee mentioned, this is a fairly encouraging bunch. Quite a few of us have multiples of several tools. In my former employment, I regularly used more than a handful of routers, 3 different track saws and at least one of every length track, except the longest, which is no longer sold, in NA anyway.
My needs have changed some, but I still keep them all in a ready, set up, state.
MFK700 is a completely different animal. They are fantastic, especially if you do a lot of edge work. You lose the plunge aspect but gain a lot of edge functionality. The offset of the vertical base is far more stable, when cutting edge profiles.
The horizontal base is great for flush cutting applied edges. Edge banding, solid wood shelf edges, etc. are all right in its range. It is limited somewhat as far as bit length, but it's not a big problem.
8mm shanks are considerably stiffer than 1/4. For some jobs, it not a huge thing, but I prefer 8mm whenever I can get them. A few years ago, it was harder to get them in the US, but has gotten better. I do wish we were able to get the much more extensive selection that is available in Europe.
They are a little more expensive than 1/4", but it's a combination of more material and higher end brands.
I use Woodpeckers, Lee Valley, and Bosch mostly. Like I said, the Festool ones are not available here. (a few that fit the MFK700 are, but that's about it)
17 is not outrageous, 17 is not outrageous.....

Thank you for what you've shared above. Based on the perspectives you and the others have shared, my view of having multiple routers instead of "a router' is evolving. It's been a big help today from FOG members who've shared their experience, insights and recommendations. I appreciate the time you and others have taken to respond and assist! Again, thanks.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Thank you for what you've shared above. Based on the perspectives you and the others have shared, my view of having multiple routers instead of "a router' is evolving. It's been a big help today from FOG members who've shared their experience, insights and recommendations. I appreciate the time you and others have taken to respond and assist! Again, thanks.

You are very welcome, that's why we are here. My experience is a bit unique, but there are other tradesmen here too.
"A" router is not enough. It takes a minimum of two, for most people. No one wants to lug around a big/heavy 1/2" router for every little thing, but a small trim style router can't handle bigger things.
Personally, I would also include a table mounted unit too. It could be the 1/2" one, that is for general work, but it's a pain to swap it in and out. Then it gets neglected, when that would have been the better way.
That's why I have so many. It was initially for speed/convenience at work, but even now I still hold onto them.

 

[North Country Woodworker]

You are very welcome, that's why we are here. My experience is a bit unique, but there are other tradesmen here too.
"A" router is not enough. It takes a minimum of two, for most people. No one wants to lug around a big/heavy 1/2" router for every little thing, but a small trim style router can't handle bigger things.
Personally, I would also include a table mounted unit too. It could be the 1/2" one, that is for general work, but it's a pain to swap it in and out. Then it gets neglected, when that would have been the better way.
That's why I have so many. It was initially for speed/convenience at work, but even now I still hold onto them.

I've valued the wealth of insights and perspectives and experience-based suggestions from you and the others today. Plus, now - for the first time - I have a better understanding of why several of my friends who are avid woodworkers have multiple routers (often three or more of them). So today was a great day for learning! Once again, thank you!

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I've valued the wealth of insights and perspectives and experience-based suggestions from you and the others today. Plus, now - for the first time - I have a better understanding of why several of my friends who are avid woodworkers have multiple routers (often three or more of them). So today was a great day for learning! Once again, thank you!

If you dig deep enough into my past posts, you will get the joke of the 17
I'll save you the trouble, it's actually 30 at last count.