Ideas for shop reorganization?

[wow]

EDIT - this is weird, everything time I use the word "p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s" the forum eliminates it from the post?? See *** above.

Something is definitely wonky with the forum of late. It wouldn't let me use the word 'price' coupled with 'less' in a post the other night either.

I've also found some similar problems that I don't happen to recall right now...

 

[waho6o9]

I prefer using French cleats instead of
peg boards.
Pictures are off the interwebs.
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[WarnerConstCo.]

I am looking to solve this very issue, but my solution is to find about 10k square feet of space for my stuff. [big grin]

 

[alex946]

Please sell circular saw, INCRA LS and router table. Completely get rid of them.

I'm not sure I agree with selling the incra LS... but if you do go that route, please let me know.  I've been drooling over those for some time

Mwahaha!
I sold my table saw two years ago, and it was the right decision.

 

[HunterL]

Figure out what you dont need, get rid of it.

Figure out what you don't want to get rid of but hardly ever use, and gather all of those things together (maybe in large boxes?) and store them out of sight (attic?).

Re-assess your space and then your off to the races, maybe buy more Festool toys!

 

[ear3]

i will comment on just one thing:  your PKR is atrocious.
that would be what i call the Pegboard Kerning Ratio.  A tool here, a dissimilar tool there, lots of empty space that is usable right now.  what i did is go through all my drawers and determine what can hang on the wall.  sure you can bunch more in a drawer but then you're forever digging through duplicates, they're out of sight and you forget so you buy more...  who needs 100 screwdrivers? i went through a large rolling tool chest and eliminated a bunch of stuff, hung the rest on the wall and cleared up my toolbox for other things.  i even found some things that i forgot i had and either sold them or started using them.  imagine that!
(as an aside, i'm now modifying those tool chest drawers to hold taller stuff but that will be for another post)
pegboard and hooks are inexpensive, but what i really like is slat wall.  when you get a new tool, you can slide your hooks in that section a tiny bit over to accommodate it, thus improving your PKR on an ongoing basis.
you can get slat wall and accessories reasonably at those places that resell used store fixtures or go to a store that is going out of business and is clearing everything out.
i'm going to try to attach a couple of pics that i took just now to illustrate said use of PKR, which by the way is a trademarked term which cannot be used without the express written consent of....oh, never mind, just go ahead and use it freely--maybe it will go viral!
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Absolutely right.  I was going to do something in the last reorganization, but ran out of steam.  Thanks for the pics.

 

[ear3]

Edward, your photos remind me of my first shop, a 10' by 20' single car garage. I started collecting stationary tools and quickly got to the point that I couldn't move in it. Like you, I wheeled everything outside to work, which sucked when the weather was bad.

Came a day my wife decided she needed that space to grow her business, so I got to build my 24' by 32' free-standing shop and relocate, then convert the original space into her offices. This caused me to really go overboard and I ended up with a cabinet saw with outfeed tables that was nearly 7' square, tons of benches and lots of wasted space.

Then we moved to our current home, where we have zero excess land and no garage, & I ended up selling all the large tools and converting to the Festool TS/MFT and on down that slippery slope. It is constantly a challenge but I think I am actually happier with the smaller space, it makes me really particular as to my tools and workbenches.

There is a thread here that may give you a few ideas, I just updated it after making some *** this past weekend.

Good luck, I will follow along to see how you ***.

RMW

EDIT - this is weird, everything time I use the word "p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s" the forum eliminates it from the post?? See *** above.

Thanks Richard.

 

[ear3]

Thanks for the table pics -- might be an improvement over my fold-up sawhorses and piece of sacrifical plywood.

I almost got the Bosch gravity-rise cart to replace my current stand last week, but then I decided to buy the OF1010...

Hi Edward,

A couple of suggestion;
1-Chose a single working height for all of your work surfaces.
2-Get rid of most factory stands and build your own stands with storage space under for drawer or systainer drawers. Drawer give you 30-40% more storage space then low shelving. Mount everything on high quality casters.
3-Build the "Guido wall" on one side and a mobile work bench on the other side. http://www.benchworks.be/tipstricks.html has some good idea you mount on casters. This should be placed at the entrance of the garage. Back of the garage to store all the big power tools on caster.
4-Unless you need your chop saw on site get rid of the stand and build a miter station on casters
5-File cabinets is out.Replace it with unit with smaller drawers that can be pulled out on each side, 4-8 cm deep. Great for router bits, chisel etc...
6-modular shelving 5-15 cm deep amazing amount of storage with small bins. Think narrow thin shelves spanning smaller distances.
7-Clamps store horizontally and in a box hinged to ceiling of garage.
8-Lumber rack on caster and with solid sides for the plywood level give extra storage space for guide rails, level etc...
9-Get rid of old tools and containers

That was my couple of suggestions good luck

Bruce

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Some solid advice here.

I would REALLY lose the router table.  Especially with that incra and table saw.  I would def do a built in on that.  Do the piece of wood with a hole in it clamped to a set of saw horses if needed out of the shop.

WAY too many small parts drawers on the wall, I'm invested in bosch/sortimo so I would go i-boxx but festool has to have some proper storage for those types of things.  Or dewalt makes some nice small parts storage containers as well. 

The miter saw stand is a beast for that size of saw.  Rolling cart for sure.

I would probably build one of these for onsite or for just out of the garage.  Overanalyze's break down table is sweet an can be used in 4x8 or 4x4.  I added adj height feet to make it the same as my table saw and bench.  HIGHLY recommended for any shop.

 

[Trosey]

Pegboard........smart city slickers use it for potato/onion bins in the kitchen------smart rednecks/country folks know that hardware cloth or chicken wire is much better for that application.

IMO....pegboard does not belong in a WORKING shop. [tongue] [tongue] [tongue]

 

[sancho57]

Edward, your photos remind me of my first shop, a 10' by 20' single car garage. I started collecting stationary tools and quickly got to the point that I couldn't move in it. Like you, I wheeled everything outside to work, which sucked when the weather was bad.

Came a day my wife decided she needed that space to grow her business, so I got to build my 24' by 32' free-standing shop and relocate, then convert the original space into her offices. This caused me to really go overboard and I ended up with a cabinet saw with outfeed tables that was nearly 7' square, tons of benches and lots of wasted space.

Then we moved to our current home, where we have zero excess land and no garage, & I ended up selling all the large tools and converting to the Festool TS/MFT and on down that slippery slope. It is constantly a challenge but I think I am actually happier with the smaller space, it makes me really particular as to my tools and workbenches.

There is a thread here that may give you a few ideas, I just updated it after making some *** this past weekend.

Good luck, I will follow along to see how you ***.

RMW

EDIT - this is weird, everything time I use the word "p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s" the forum eliminates it from the post?? See *** above.

I  had  a shop of stationary tools. Theen i started down the green path, and I started using them less and less. When I found out i was coming over here, I got rid of them bought the CMS TS 75 module to replace my stationary table saw, and jointer. I use the TS and CMS and 850 for jointing. The only tools that I found I need because Festool dont make them is a  thickness planer and maybe a drum sander, small one like the 12" model that jet makes.
So now that my delta thicknesser sort of died no parts over here,  I drive to the larger base (45 mins each way) to use their planer and drum sander when needed.
I do have to take the time and fix that thickneser. im sure its not that big of a deal.But going green saves me a lot of space.Especially in my now 1 car english garage shop