Ignored by:

[Michael Kellough]

There is a new (or I just noticed it) item in the Member Profile Summary,

Ignored by:

I've managed to annoy one person enough to ignore me.
It's sort of like having a secret admirer in reverse.
If the Ignore function works I guess they'll never know I know?

 

[Dan Clark]

...
I've managed to annoy one person enough to ignore me.
It's sort of like having a secret admirer in reverse.
If the Ignore function works I guess they'll never know I know?

Michael,

I'm sorry to hear this.  Except for a few well know competitor marketers, most of the folks here are very friendly. 

Of course I do like the way you think!  "If the Ignore function works I guess they'll never know I know?"  I love that!    ;D

Dan.

p.s., my apologies for not working on the Photo Tutorial. Thanks for the great.  I'll get back to you this weekend about it.

 

[greg mann]

Michael,

Considering you are one of the most thoughtful and objective posters in this group I am surprised. Someone must be fanatical over their drywall screw attachment! At least you know it's not Dan or me. 

Greg

 

[Daviddubya]

First, let me say I am not your ignorer - is that a word?  Second, it seems to me that a person's decision to ignore someone is a private matter.  I would think it would be information best kept between the ignorer (there's that word again) and the System.  I wonder if the "Ignored by" feature can be turned off?  Matthew, please chime in.  Thanks.

 

[Ned]

Michael being Ignored is probably an accident.  A new button shows up on our screen, and someone innocently clicks it, perhaps doesn't even know he did.  I think this is a far more likely scenario than that MK has upset someone to the point of being Ignored.

I didn't read the instructions for Ignore, since I wasn't interested in using it.  I wonder how you go about un-Ignoring someone.

OK, Michael, if your Ignore count goes to two, it's probably me just experimenting with Ignoring and UnIgnoring.

 

[Michael Kellough]

First, let me say I am not your ignorer - is that a word?  Second, it seems to me that a person's decision to ignore someone is a private matter.  I would think it would be information best kept between the ignorer (there's that word again) and the System.  I wonder if the "Ignored by" feature can be turned off?  Matthew, please chime in.  Thanks.

Hi David,

Actually I'm guessing Carl Stone chose to ignore me as he did on the Yahoo forum (although technically I think this was a setting in his email). No one needs to ignore him because he signed up under his alias and hasn't contributed to this forum anyway. Probably just waiting out the Domino drawings.

But I'm just guessing that it's Carl. As far as I know there isn't any way to know who chose to ignore someone. That information is potentially more sensitive (more embarrassing) than knowing you are ignored, from my point of view.

I think your suggestion to omit the Ignored by: line from the Member Profile is good. It will likely save someone a bit of angst. As a lifelong iconoclast I'm used to finding myself outside of some circle or another.

You on the other hand have made some very useful posts and links, if you don't mind my saying so. Glad you're back.

Michael

 

[Dan Clark]

First, let me say I am not your ignorer - is that a word?  Second, it seems to me that a person's decision to ignore someone is a private matter.  I would think it would be information best kept between the ignorer (there's that word again) and the System.  I wonder if the "Ignored by" feature can be turned off?  Matthew, please chime in.  Thanks.

David,

I think the Ignore feature is an intersting double-edge sword.  One the one hand, it's a good way of ignoring annoying posters (nobody on this thread).   On the other, as Ned pointed out, it might just be a slip of the mouse finger.  

Perhaps a good option would be to implement this a menu item.  I.e., still there but a little more difficult to use.   Matthew?

Regards,

Dan.

 

[Matthew Schenker]

I wonder if the "Ignored by" feature can be turned off?  Matthew, please chime in.

Unfortunately, it's all or nothing on the "ignore user options" feature.  I can either turn it on, and allow us to ignore those who really bug us, and also know who is ignoring us, or turn it off altogether.

My assumption is that most people will not need this feature one way or the other.  But looking at some of the posts in the forum, I think we would do well to have this option available.

Of course, like all elements of this forum, it's open for discussion.  Opinions are welcome.

Matthew

 

[Matthew Schenker]

Perhaps a good option would be to implement this a menu item.  I.e., still there but a little more difficult to use.  Matthew?

Sorry, but the "ignore user options" feature has to be accessed via the "PROFILE" menu.

However, I'm going to inquire with the programmer who designed this feature how I might customize it for our group.

Matthew

 

[Corwin]

Matthew,

The 'Ignore' option is surely an interesting one...  but maybe just a 'Banished' notation where it would otherwise say 'Member' in the Author column would be good enough.  I would have NO problem leaving you, the Forum Administrator, with the sole discretion in such matters.  You certainly have spent a lot of time and effort creating a resource for the rest of us to enjoy -- and it would be a shame if the content of this board were to become as cluttered with this type of nonsense as other woodworking boards seem to be.  This bickering just gets in the way of the great information that is shared here.  So, second strike and you're out is fine with me...

Corwin

 

[Dan Clark]

Corwin,

I agree wholeheartedly (even though I might be considered one of the "bickerers").

Dan.

 

[Daviddubya]

Michael - Thanks for your kind words.

Maybe there is a "method to the madness" of having an ignored person know they have been ignored, and how many poeple are ignoring them.  If one's ignored count gets rather high, there must be a reason or reasons.  Perhaps, just perhaps, that might chase an offensive poster away.  Dream on, David.

 

[Dan Clermont]

Michael - Thanks for your kind words.

Maybe there is a "method to the madness" of having an ignored person know they have been ignored, and how many poeple are ignoring them.  If one's ignored count gets rather high, there must be a reason or reasons.  Perhaps, just perhaps, that might chase an offensive poster away.  Dream on, David.

I like the idea of the offensive person knowing his "ignore count" and therefore he has the option of behaving on the forum or leaving altogether.

Dan C

 

[Matthew Schenker]

I like the idea of the offensive person knowing his "ignore count" and therefore he has the option of behaving on the forum or leaving altogether.
Dan C

Yes, that's a good point.

There is another feature on this board called "Karma."  Right now, I have it turned off.  But the way it works, members get to "vote" on whether they are positive or negative about another member.  As a member receives a greater number of positive votes, your "karma" rating becomes positive.  Here are some details:
- We can decide what the "Karma threshold" is.  For example, we could say that a person has to have at least 50 votes to get any "Karma" rating.  Below the threshold, you simple don't have a rating.
- We can decide on labels for positive and negative vote (the default labels are "applaud" and "smite").
- We can set the feature so it shows the overall rating ("positive" or "negative"), or a running total of the "positive" and "negative" votes.

It's a system for rewarding people who do a good job helping others and contributing.

Would people like me to activate Karma?  We could always install it and test it out.

What do you think?

Matthew

 

[Daviddubya]

...It's a system for rewarding people who do a good job helping others and contributing.

Would people like me to activate Karma?  We could always install it and test it out.

What do you think?

Matthew

Matthew - To me this Karma thing sounds like an great feature for kids on My Space for the local grade school cheerleader squad annual awards banquet.  I see no purpose for anything like Karma voting in a tool discussion group.  IMHO, of course.

 

[Matthew Schenker]

David,
Perhaps you're right, which is kind of why I've had the option turned off!  But I put it out there for discussion.  Let's see what other people think.

Regarding Corwin's statement,

but maybe just a 'Banished' notation where it would otherwise say 'Member' in the Author column would be good enough. 

The forum software allows the administrator several levels of control, such as...
- Banning a user from the group entirely.
- Disabling a member's access to specific boards.  For example, I can make it so a member only has access to the "Off-Topic" area and nothing else.
- Editing or deleting a specific message.
- Blocking all members signing up from a particular domain (for example, anyone from screwtheworld.com).
- Moving messages into different areas (for example, shifting a post or set of posts, or an entire discussion, into the "Off-Topic" area).

These, along with ability for members to report problem posts to me, should allow the forum to operate pretty smoothly.

Stay in touch,
Matthew

 

[Forrest Anderson]

There is another feature on this board called "Karma."  Right now, I have it turned off.  But the way it works, members get to "vote" on whether they are positive or negative about another member... Would people like me to activate Karma?  We could always install it and test it out.

As I mentioned in another thread, I have been a lurker until today, but thought I'd take the chance to cast my vote.

I belong to several "serious" forums on a range of subjects from military to woodworking to automobiles, and several have the karma-like feature enabled. Some also give members a "rank", directly realated to the number of posts a member has made. Maybe I take life too seriously or something, but I don't have any time for karma or rank, and believe that it would make the Group look less professional. A rank would be superfluous since the number of posts is already shown beside a member's name, and I think a karma rating would look amateurish. I'm with David on this one.

Forrest

 

[Dan Clark]

Matthew,

My opinion varies slightly from David and Forrest's.  In general, I think that most of the ranking meters, especially the ones having to with number of posts, are exceptionaly stupid.  And a Karma rating that shows who is good little boy or girl is not useful.  However...

I think that a Karma meter MIGHT be useful if a person's rating was visible only to that person and then only if he/she turned it on.  I might provide good information about how you are perceived by others in the group.

Dan.

 

[Matthew Schenker]

Everyone,
Just so you know, there are several features available for this forum that categorize members in various ways:
- Number of posts
- Karma
- Stars (from 1 to 5)
- Ranking based on number of posts (newbie, novice, expert, and others)
- Color-coded names
- Creation of various "groups" based on the number of posts and other activities
- "Awards" for members, as decided by the administrator
- "Badges" for members, as decided by the administrator

I have all of these features turned off or did not install them.  The only exception is "number of posts."  I think that one is fine, because it's just a neutral fact.

Matthew

 

[greg mann]

This group has exersized good self-control and mutual respect. Most of us are discerning enough to have a clue how others feel about them just from the nature of the posts. We had a flurry of contention, and along with Dan I suppose I helped keep it from dying the quick death it deserved. I don't think he would mind me making that observation. It probably is no coincidence that the party that started it joined, made three posts hardly related to Festool and certainly in no favorable way, and seems to have now disappeared. Perhaps if we had all taken a deep breath and not taken the bait it would have been a one post thread. The point is that this will happen every once in a while, Matt has given us his take on how to deal with it, and if we are patient, we can save ourselves a lot of grief. (And save the members who are smart enough to not respond the effort of having to step over the mess.)