Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.

[DB10]

Just bought the CXS and immediately returned it.  darn thing wouldn't even sink a screw.  Hoping the PDC I had my dealer order as replacement is a heck of a lot better.

Well those two drills are like chalk and cheese, a CXS is better suited to cabinetry work than say site work and you didn't mention what size screw you were trying to sink, the CXS and PDC in a lot of situations can compliment each other.

 

[bkharman]

Just bought the CXS and immediately returned it.  darn thing wouldn't even sink a screw.  Hoping the PDC I had my dealer order as replacement is a heck of a lot better.

Well those two drills are like chalk and cheese, a CXS is better suited to cabinetry work than say site work and you didn't mention what size screw you were trying to sink, the CXS and PDC in a lot of situations can compliment each other.

I have both and love them both for their intended purpose.

Cheers. Bryan.

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[duburban]

Parallel guides for sure

 

[VW mick]

Carvex and accessory kit and MFT accessory kit.

Yep no 2 for the above

Although I have used the clamps out of the guild rail kit

Mick

 

[Gunder]

Well those two drills are like chalk and cheese, a CXS is better suited to cabinetry work than say site work and you didn't mention what size screw you were trying to sink, the CXS and PDC in a lot of situations can compliment each other.

5.5 x 9.5 ski binding screws. These are always pre-drilled with a 3.6 or 4.1 x9.5 bit. I bought the CXS as the torque on these screws is critical. I need a driver that will install them to the same torque every time. 7.5NM to be exact and this is right in the middle of the 15nm range of the CXS.  I also tried plane old drywall screws and it wouldn't even sink them into a 2x4.

When I purchase Festools I expect them to perform at least as good as the cheaper competition, but with more precision and better build quality.  Even a $100 Makita that I was using worked better.  My plan was to have a smaller drill for light tasks like this, and then have the PDC for all around usage.  But this experience is making me re-think going Festool for drills altogether.  Lets face it the XS series is very dated now, and for the price should be a at a minimum brushless. The 18 series is obsolete with the PDC.  The fact that Festool has no impact driver is also insane.  Maybe its time Festool takes its drill line more seriously and updates it to at least be on par with the completion.  I would love to see a compact, brushless XS sized drill / impact driver that actually has a torque setting for the impact driving side. This would be a serious game changer.

 

[peter halle]

If you are looking to purchase a drill driver (any brand) that installs screws to a critical user defined torque that has to be exact to .5 NM then honestly you need to be looking at specialized equipment.  The odds of any manufacturer having a preset torque setting to exactly to your exact needs is slim.  I suspect that you will need to do extensive research.

But I hope that the PDC works for you.  My fingers are crossed.

Peter

 

[rst]

I confused about the CXS bashing.  I've been driving screws...real screws 12s, 14s, lags etc. for 50 years.  I started using B&D battery driven in the late 70' and early 80s.  Graduated to 9.6 Makitas, then 14v Freud and Makitas.  I currently have at least 8 Milwaukees in 12 and 18v and use them for commercial/industrial work...wood, aluminum, steel, plastics.  I just bought the CXS just for the right angle function and for S&Gs.  The comment about it not driving drywall screws is either user error or a bad drill.  Just to check, I just went out to test mine.  I use 4 1/2" #12 screws to fasten aluminum storefront frames.  With the torque setting on 12 and low speed I drove one in 2 inches before camming out when the thicker part of the screw hit.  I then backed the screw out.  Not sure how many times the driver would do this but it is NOT under powered for it's size.

 

[semenza]

I can't see there being much in the way of user error with the CXS so more likely a bad drill or battery problem. I have not used a CXS myself but I have watched it drive some really large and long screws.

Seth

 

[six-point socket II]

5.5 x 9.5 ski binding screws. These are always pre-drilled with a 3.6 or 4.1 x9.5 bit. I bought the CXS as the torque on these screws is critical. I need a driver that will install them to the same torque every time. 7.5NM to be exact (...)

Hi,

What you obviously want/need is a cordless driver like they use in production lines. The chance that either CXS or PDC have a torque setting that equals 7.5 Nm exactly is close to nonexistent.

For this task you'd be best suited with a Exact ION 12-450 from Bosch for example:http://www.boschproductiontools.com/com/en/iwocs/exact-ion-12-450-usa-38427-ocs-p/

Be sure to read the manual on how torque preset is set on these to ensure it meets your demands.

EDIT: I forgot to add, in your desired torque range these can be had with up to 1100 rpm - in case 450 rpm isn't fast enough.

I'm also sure there are other brands who make production line/exact torque cordless screwdrivers. But I'm just familiar with Bosch's line up, I apologize.

If you get one, I'd love to read a review/your thoughts on it - there is a special section here on the FOG for reviews about other brand's tools.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Holzhacker]

For me probably the WCR. Nothing wrong with it but my work has changed so it just doesn't get used enough to be worth it.

 

[Harry1561]

The guide rail accessory kit,  the adjustable rail square is not fit for purpose a waste of money.

 

[Cochese]

Probably the Pro5. Just from the standpoint that I shouldn't have invested in the 125 paper when I had plenty of 150 paper and hould have put that towards a Rotex.

 

[Monju123]

CSX. Greatly prefer my M12 Milwaukee tools. And the Centrotec system is a joke. Exorbinently priced for no gain in performance.

 

[lnmnmarty]

Thanks to festools return policy one should never regret a tool. For those prices if the tool doesn't really impress me it goes back. They want this forum about the tools we like not the ones we hate.

 

[Coen]

Wow, so often the Carvex. Seems I did the right thing by buying a Trion. But the Carvex came just a bit later.

 

[bkharman]

FWIW, I like my carvex. It had treated me well with coping and 4x6 timbers and everything in between.

Cheers. Bryan.

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[john5mt]

Carvex

Barley lasted past its warranty. Totally exploded. Have a Bosch thats 10 years old and still working flawlessly

 

[Wooden nickel]

Not sure if I should laugh or cry at this point. LoL
Just bought parallel guides, carvex from recon, cxs from woodcraft.
But for the guides I understand they can be used with the lr32
And I like the cxs for cabinet work
And lastly the carvex is on its way.... let’s see how it turns out.

 

[Coen]

Perhaps the Domino + systainer full of domino's that I only used once... for like 70 Domino's total or so. That's about 15 euro's per domino placed...

Or the refurbishment of the T12 (NiCD) that I was given. I spend too much on a new switch (~65), new outer housing, etc. Also had to re-cell one batterypack, only to find the other one rather weak a little later.

I regret buying my EHL-65 before it was released with plug-it. I like the plug-it system, and the EHL-65 is the odd one without it in my collection.

Other than that; no, not really. But then again I didn't buy the first Carvex. (Nor the current one, as my Trion is doing fine.)

 

[sancho57]

Parallel Guides, I bought mines before the after market ones came out a pain for me to calibrate I think I finally got them calibrated but the extensions are a pain to use b/c of the big saddle.

I bought the 850 planer, and the bench stand and the angle stop (fence) I sort of regret bc I bought it to well joint boards thinking with the full length angle stop I would be able to and the bench unit for jointing small boards. Yes it will work but this tool and accessories does stay in a systainer sitting on a shelf most of the time. But I will say it does a good job when fitting doors so its not a total loss.

The boom arm I thought it was a great idea but now looking at some of the ideas the guys here have come up with well it isnt really making me happy. Maybe if in the future I have a larger shop the it may make me happy.

The 2200 kit, I only used one base for it the rest sit in the sustainer. But I dont keep my 2200 in the CMS, but when I use it for free hand routing the pieces of the kit does come in handy. Most of the kit sits in the systainer on a shelf next to the 850.

If i think of more Ill add to this most, well one I dont regret but wish FT had other options id the CS 50 fence for the TS 75 CMS mosule which I dont have