Isn't it about time U.S. went metric?

[Holmz]

P.S. it's Flemish.  [tongue]

Next you will trading in the doubles and triples for Budwiser and Coors.

 

[Stephen B]

[size=12pt]Regarding the dimensions of plywood sheet goods, and any comments regarding their real actual size, may I refer you to the Australian Standard, page 5  - 2400X1200.

http://www.ewp.asn.au/library/downloads/facts_about_plywood.pdf

[member=5277]Alex[/member] [member=191]Rick Christopherson[/member]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Meh, who cares.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Why do some people feel the need to force a minority to change? We don't ask Belgians to quit speaking Belgian because virtually nobody else does.

You're Canadian, so this doesn't apply directly to you, though you speak as an Imperial user here, but for the rest of the world, Imperial = USA. And the USA is actually extremely forceful in spreading it's cultural dominance all around the world. Like from that movie ... "Inside every gook there's an American dying to get out".

And along with the Big Macs and the action movies we like, we are also showered with Imperial, which we don't like. We pay good money for the Big Macs and the movies, and give our criticism on Imperial for free.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

Meh, who cares.

Agree!!!

 

[SittingElf]

I'm surprised at those statistics, Reiska.

I spent some time with a few Finns and they were experts at drinking beer and throwing darts. They explained it as, "What would you do if it's dark all the time?".

I spent a lot of time with Italians and they drank coffee all day and all night. Never a cappuccino past 9:00 AM. Espresso every hour or so the rest of the day and into the evening.

Tom

One more fun statistic:

The country with the most Starbucks per capita is:............. Singapore!  That's along with a large number of OTHER coffee chains as well.  [scratch chin] [big grin]

Cheers,

Frank

 

[Stephen B]

Why do some people feel the need to force a minority to change? We don't ask Belgians to quit speaking Belgian because virtually nobody else does.

You're Canadian, so this doesn't apply directly to you, though you speak as an Imperial user here, but for the rest of the world, Imperial = USA. And the USA is actually extremely forceful in spreading it's cultural dominance all around the world. Like from that movie ... "Inside every gook there's an American dying to get out".

And along with the Big Macs and the action movies we like, we are also showered with Imperial, which we don't like. We pay good money for the Big Macs and the movies, and give our criticism on Imperial for free.

Alex, in another forum, I might have added support to your comments here regarding the cultural and economic imperialism of the United States.

But surely here on the FOG our debate should stick to the facts ( or our personal interpretation and thoughts) of mathematics and the structures and properties of wood products as they apply to measurement systems.

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Interesting that two recent posts are now attempting to take the ball and play elsewhere!  [smile]

 

[DB10]

Meh, who cares.

Agree!!!

Yep this subject is now officially, flogged to death!

 

[Paul G]

Why do some people feel the need to force a minority to change? We don't ask Belgians to quit speaking Belgian because virtually nobody else does.

You're Canadian, so this doesn't apply directly to you, though you speak as an Imperial user here, but for the rest of the world, Imperial = USA. And the USA is actually extremely forceful in spreading it's cultural dominance all around the world. Like from that movie ... "Inside every gook there's an American dying to get out".

And along with the Big Macs and the action movies we like, we are also showered with Imperial, which we don't like. We pay good money for the Big Macs and the movies, and give our criticism on Imperial for free.

Alas we get to the crux of the matter, this has little to do with weights and measures and more to do with anti-America sentiments.

 

[greg mann]

Frustrations with Imperial doesn't equate to being Anti-American. Alex is a thoughtful and important member of this community. When you hear something that bothers you from such a person it might be an opportunity for a little self-assessment.

 

[Paul G]

Frustrations with Imperial doesn't equate to being Anti-American. Alex is a thoughtful and important member of this community. When you hear something that bothers you from such a person it might be an opportunity for a little self-assessment.

Yea, I woke up this morning thinking I'd like to force my cultural dominance all around the world. But then which culture would that be since I'm an immigrant to America. Oops.

No, I wake up like most folks just wanting to earn a living.

FTR, I have nothing against Alex and greatly appreciated his contributions. But I can't for the life of me understand why folks in other countries get their buns tied in knots over what weights and measures we use here. I could care less that my relatives in Sweden, Canada and China use metric, and if I were to sell product in their countries it wouldn't surprise or bother me in the least that they would desire those products to be in metric.

 

[mouppe]

+1

 

[semenza]

Starting to get into the weeds here with the country vs. country type stuff.

Seth

 

[jacko9]

Starting to get into the weeds here with the country vs. country type stuff.

Seth

Yep

 

[AlexThePalex]

Alas we get to the crux of the matter, this has little to do with weights and measures and more to do with anti-America sentiments.

No, this has nothing to do with anti-America sentiments. I was simply bringing this up to show how metricland is exposed to imperial. You should not interpret this so negative, Paul, this really has only to do with weights and measures.

Starting to get into the weeds here with the country vs. country type stuff.

Alex, in another forum, I might have added support to your comments here regarding the cultural and economic imperialism of the United States.

But surely here on the FOG our debate should stick to the facts ( or our personal interpretation and thoughts) of mathematics and the structures and properties of wood products as they apply to measurement systems.

Yes, I'm sorry to bring this up, I don't want to go anywhere near a political discussion, but I was asked by two people "Why is it important to you", and I can't answer that without going a bit into our cultural differences and where and how they meet.

I'll shut up now.  [wink]

 

[Stephen B]

[size=12pt]Regarding the dimensions of plywood sheet goods, and any comments regarding their real actual size, may I refer you to the Australian Standard, page 5  - 2400X1200.

http://www.ewp.asn.au/library/downloads/facts_about_plywood.pdf

[member=5277]Alex[/member] [member=191]Rick Christopherson[/member]

[size=13pt]At work today in the TimberYard, I cross checked three sheets of ply, two made in Australia and one imported from Brazil. All were 2400X1200mm.

Within the European Union why are similar sheet goods 2440X1220mm which is closer to 8X4 feet? Is this because some sheet goods are imported from North America? What size are those made in Scandinavia for the European Market?

I am not trying to reserect the metric/imperial debate here, but some comments in this thread regarding sheet sizes have raised my curiosity.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Europe hardly grows any wood by itself. We import almost all wood and a lot of it comes from North and South America.

 

[Kev]

[size=12pt]Regarding the dimensions of plywood sheet goods, and any comments regarding their real actual size, may I refer you to the Australian Standard, page 5  - 2400X1200.

http://www.ewp.asn.au/library/downloads/facts_about_plywood.pdf

[member=5277]Alex[/member] [member=191]Rick Christopherson[/member]

[size=13pt]At work today in the TimberYard, I cross checked three sheets of ply, two made in Australia and one imported from Brazil. All were 2400X1200mm.

Within the European Union why are similar sheet goods 2440X1220mm which is closer to 8X4 feet? Is this because some sheet goods are imported from North America? What size are those made in Scandinavia for the European Market?

I am not trying to reserect the metric/imperial debate here, but some comments in this thread regarding sheet sizes have raised my curiosity.

I've noticed many anomalies myself.

When you checked, were you checking markings or actual measurements?

Must be a real nuisance if your standard supply varies.

I buy from Brunzyeel in Brookvale ... check out the mix in their 1200's v's 1220's ...

http://www.bruynzeel.com.au/products/plywoods.aspx

I'd be curious whether many Aussie builders get stuck having framed with 610mm stud centres expecting 1220mm sheet goods and end up with 1200mm sheets?

 

[Stephen B]

[size=13pt]Hi Kev,

At work, actual with Lufkin metric tape measure and assisted by a work colleague who was quite bemused!  [big grin]

I knew the result would be 2400X1200 but the discussion here on the FOG had raised some doubts. I checked a sheet of marine, non-structural and exterior ply.

After reading your reply, have just been down to the Untidy Shop and measured a sheet of 19mm Brazilian non-structural ply and one of Australian 32mm HoopPine.

[attachimg=1]

However found some MDF that was 1215mm in width.  [eek]

By the way, most timber stud centres around here are 450mm, 600 is max.

Is your Supplier selling Aussie or imported ply? He seems to have two main sizes 2400X1200 and 2440X1220mm.

References
http://www.australply.com.au/index.php/products/austral-premium-ac-ext
http://www.ewp.asn.au/library/downloads/facts_about_plywood.pdf
http://www.build.com.au/installing-plasterboard-walls-and-insulation

[member=13058]Kev[/member]

 

[Kev]

[size=13pt]Hi Kev,

At work, actual with Lufkin metric tape measure and assisted by a work colleague who was quite bemused!  [big grin]

I knew the result would be 2400X1200 but the discussion here on the FOG had raised some doubts. I checked a sheet of marine, non-structural and exterior ply.

After reading your reply, have just been down to the Untidy Shop and measured a sheet of 19mm Brazilian non-structural ply and one of Australian 32mm HoopPine.

[attachimg=1]

However found some MDF that was 1215mm in width.  [eek]

By the way, most timber stud centres around here are 450mm, 600 is max.

Is your Supplier selling Aussie or imported ply? He seems to have two main sizes 2400X1200 and 2440X1220mm.

References
http://www.australply.com.au/index.php/products/austral-premium-ac-ext
http://www.ewp.asn.au/library/downloads/facts_about_plywood.pdf
http://www.build.com.au/installing-plasterboard-walls-and-insulation

[member=13058]Kev[/member]

Agree on centres ... hence the curiosity! [smile]

I've been side tracked looked at hours of youtube videos on the various ply sheet good and ply faced door making machines and techniques. Wanna buy a factory? http://www.plywoodplantmachinery.com  [big grin] [big grin]