Kapex life span
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I have pretty much the oldest Kapex outside of the factory. Last week marks it's 9th anniversary. Aside from taking it apart to answer questions on this forum, it has never needed a single spot of service.
So how much would the repair cost at regular price. How much has and will Festool charge others for the same repair. Does everyone get the goodwill treatment ? Just wondering. I have heard similar repairs cost us regular folks 700 to 800 greenbacks. Some manufacturers cap repair costs.
Just an FYI, the part that was good willed had nothing to do with the motor at all. My kapex was from 2008 and in the beginning I had an issue with the bevel gears in the back of the saw and my kapex had to be repaired under warranty. I'm not sure why I was goodwilled the parts this time and the gears were replaced, I didn't know there was an issue, I was told the bearing was bad and I was goodwilled the parts to repair it.
I've never had a bad experience with Festool repair. They are quick to diagnose, update you, fix and ship the saw back. I'm sure they will work with you if your tools out of warranty.
Dave
I've never had a bad experience with Festool repair. They are quick to diagnose, update you, fix and ship the saw back. I'm sure they will work with you if your tools out of warranty.
Dave
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Big G said:
Compared to what?
£10 or 1 pence?
If another tool is the same quality and cheaper, or the same price and better. Then it is better value.
You cannot make a cogent argument that a saw that is 2x more and needs a repair every 2-3 years that costs 1x of anther saw is a cheaper saw. Or you cannot make the argument with me. I am not that thick. a £1/day over 3years, and there is even a UK song, "A grand don't come for free".
You probably meant "I know it be dodgy, but me accepts it for its features", which is understandable. It is a nice saw (when it works).
Cheese
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Oh brother...my headache returns...
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Holmz said:
OMG...Suddenly self flagellation seems like a natural and a worthy exercise...
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Big G said:
Depends what its compared against.
How well does the competition last and how much do they cost?
If every powertool I owned cost me that per day it would really start to get on my nerves.
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demographic said:
Out of curiosity what is the average amount of power tools a carpenter owns?
10.....15.....20?
If life span of a tool averaged all the same and so a cost of tool could work out to be a £1 a day would £20 a day be affordable hit to take on a day rate?
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jmbfestool said:
Compared to what? Money for Beer or cigarettes?
£20 is more than £5 a day.
The tools either need to do something better or quicker, or they need to bring some abstract or emotional joy.
Since that varies person by person it is difficult to agree that £20 a day is reasonable. A pragmatic person buys a saw to saw, and if it is broken then it does not saw. If a £5 a day set of tools lasts longer, then it is hard to claim that the £20 set is of higher quality. They may be a better design, but they cannot be higher quality if they are broken, and they cannot be a better if they are broken, and they cannot be justified monetarily if they are broken.
And that £20 a day piggy-bank needs to release the fit-it funds to repair it.
They sell it with a 3 year warranty, so they must be statistically fulfilling their side of the deal.
I think jmb make a good point/
if all tools stopped working at 3 year mark then that cost would have to be allowed for when pricing jobs . I don't think a customer would be happy if they had to pay a euro per day for each tool that was used .
the way the kapex is now I would need to charge 2 euro a day before I would buy one. that way when if calves I could get another. a kapex is 1500 euros here in Ireland. at 250 working days a year . that adds a lot to the overheads of any business when you addd up all the tools
if all tools stopped working at 3 year mark then that cost would have to be allowed for when pricing jobs . I don't think a customer would be happy if they had to pay a euro per day for each tool that was used .
the way the kapex is now I would need to charge 2 euro a day before I would buy one. that way when if calves I could get another. a kapex is 1500 euros here in Ireland. at 250 working days a year . that adds a lot to the overheads of any business when you addd up all the tools
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The latest turn on this thread is interesting.
So has anyone ever calculated what their price per day per tool is? It may start an instant reset for overhead costs.
This reminds me of the recent conversation I had with my 90+ year old mother when I asked how much her house was costing her per month. She replied, nothing because it was paid for..
Well after a long number crunching session with mom, it actually turned out to be around $1400 per month. From free to $1400 per month. I am curious as to how much some of these tools cost over a length of time.
Some of my tools over time have become free because of their repair status...some have not.
So has anyone ever calculated what their price per day per tool is? It may start an instant reset for overhead costs.
This reminds me of the recent conversation I had with my 90+ year old mother when I asked how much her house was costing her per month. She replied, nothing because it was paid for..
Well after a long number crunching session with mom, it actually turned out to be around $1400 per month. From free to $1400 per month. I am curious as to how much some of these tools cost over a length of time.
Some of my tools over time have become free because of their repair status...some have not.
Appears my simple quote is confusing everyone, it isn't a case of £1 compared to something else, it is about the cost of a Kapex being blasted as expensive, £600 with a three year warranty is hardly expensive, so the cost of that tool during that three year period is less than £1 per day, say 10p an hour, this cost is added to P&M when submitting a quotation.
All this is interesting no doubt but could we maybe get an update on this from an employee? Even a "were working on it" woild be enough. I only ask this because last Sunday Tyler posted there would be an announcement or some such coming "this" week and ts been over a week.
