lets help design the new kapex

Alan m said:
what out some type of vacum head on the table so that you dont need to clamp the piece. it would be conected to thevacum pump in the systainer. when the saw is turned on it would start sucking.

I hope you are joking............
 
o god no , im 100 % serious. have the table designed with those little valves with the ball bearing on the top  that when the piece is put on top it start sucking. The vacum pump for the vac system would power it. this would make holding flat pieces easier than clamping them each time with the clamp.
 
Alan m said:
o god no , im 100 % serious. have the table designed with those little valves with the ball bearing on the top  that when the piece is put on top it start sucking. The vacum pump for the vac system would power it. this would make holding flat pieces easier than clamping them each time with the clamp.

Alan, I know you guys pay more for your tools there than we do, our Kapex is $1300 USD.  With your vac clamp improvement that price goes to $2300 or more, are you still interested?
 
i dont think that the vac sys would come witht the kapex . the kapex could be plumbed up for it. it might push a 1300 machine to 1375 maybe . you can (or could ) from trend buy a set of these valves , rubbers , fittings ,seals etc for around 75-100. you build the mdf matrix your self but it was 3foot by 4 foot . it wouldnd cost a whole lot to cast in a matrix and places for the valves into the top of the saw.
 
Alan m said:
i dont think that the vac sys would come witht the kapex . the kapex could be plumbed up for it. it might push a 1300 machine to 1375 maybe . you can (or could ) from trend buy a set of these valves , rubbers , fittings ,seals etc for around 75-100. you build the mdf matrix your self but it was 3foot by 4 foot . it wouldnd cost a whole lot to cast in a matrix and places for the valves into the top of the saw.
A little overkill for a "HOLD DOWN CLAMP" on a miter saw!  Don't you think?  [wink]
 
probably a bit overkill but this is the royles roice of miter saws. i think it would be handy thow. if you were doing a lot of very accurate cuts where every cut would be clamped it would be a god sent . the saw vacum would be ready to go straight away just drop down the piece . there would have to be a pressure release switch that you could hit to release the board to adjust the cut. i think this would be much faster than the clamp
 
Alan m said:
probably a bit overkill but this is the royles roice of miter saws. i think it would be handy thow. if you were doing a lot of very accurate cuts where every cut would be clamped it would be a god sent . the saw vacum would be ready to go straight away just drop down the piece . there would have to be a pressure release switch that you could hit to release the board to adjust the cut. i think this would be much faster than the clamp

I like it lets make it dude!!!!!!!

JMB
 
jmb your loaded , you have too much work to do , lend festool a few bob and get them to make it [poke] [poke]
 
Hi,

I like the idea of having it triggered by the saw just like the CT.  Position the work hit the trigger and the piece is locked down. Hands free fast clamping integrated into an action you are already taking. I have had a couple times that would have been really nice to have.

Plus it would hold the piece right up close to the blade not 10" back.

Seth

 
You think U.L. approval isn't bad enough, let's see them going for this.  I would say this is something for a FOG member to come up with that others on here could reasonably implement.
 
Ken Nagrod said:
You think U.L. approval isn't bad enough, let's see them going for this.  I would say this is something for a FOG member to come up with that others on here could reasonably implement.

So when will the prototype be ready, Ken? 

Seth
 
Most horizontal mortisers have a pneumatic hold down, not new technology...

Even if the vacuum idea doesn't fly, there ought to be a way to clamp a small piece without getting your fingers anywhere near the blade.  That would sell a lot of saws.
 
SRSemenza said:
Ken Nagrod said:
You think U.L. approval isn't bad enough, let's see them going for this.  I would say this is something for a FOG member to come up with that others on here could reasonably implement.

So when will the prototype be ready, Ken? 

Seth

Hey if I'm getting my fingers dirty, so are you.  Guess we'll have to put the systainer entertainment system on hold.  [big grin]
 
I'd like to see a micro-adjust when the piece is clamped down, so I have the ability to move a lever or a screw thread or something to keep the piece clamped, yet be able to sneak up on my pencil line.  Additionally, it would be great to have some better side extensions, or a better stand, than they have now.
 
this is what i like about forums . some one makes a sugestion and some one else improves it. great idea on the fine adjuster
 
Alan m said:
this is what i like about forums . some one makes a sugestion and some one else improves it. great idea on the fine adjuster

I would like the suction pads to be on the base but also on the Rear fence on both sides.    When you pull the trigger half way the vacuum kicks in  but their is a second delay between the fence suction pads and the base!   

This is because the fence pads would Pull the timber against the fence before the base suction pads kick in holding it in place.

Also the Micro adjustment Idea is great love it!  The suction pads can move 5mm +/-  with a turn knob on the front but they still hold the timber down while your adjusting!

Oh I wish I was loaded Alan! If I was loaded!  I would create my own tool range with ideas mentioned! Unique! Wont mater if I didnt sell alot as I have money to waist lol!  Sadly Im not so I will have to stick with buying Festool tools!  [tongue]

JMB
 
I would like for the dust port to point straight up which would beat any position that it will adjust to as it is now.  Also some kind of center handle (like makita) to lift the saw with one hand.  I use the rod that has the bevel control as it beats nothing but the saw is not balanced for this method.    A  longer trigger would be way awesome  as would a longer cord.    Let there be light! Please! 
 
Laminator said:
I would like for the dust port to point straight up which would beat any position that it will adjust to as it is now.  Also some kind of center handle (like makita) to lift the saw with one hand.  I use the rod that has the bevel control as it beats nothing but the saw is not balanced for this method.    A  longer trigger would be way awesome  as would a longer cord.    Let there be light! Please! 

Yes, I can't believe I forgot this one. [thumbs up]
 
This was thought out by Festool's designers.  Lifting the saw with one hand leads to poor posture.  Look at what happened to this poor carpenter after just a handful of times lifting the saw with one hand.

 
I like getting DC into bottom tack... it is hard to clean out as it is.
I would like a light but not over power the great lasers.
I would like something like the the fastcap sawhood and build in mounts for it to get the last 3% of the dust. Also would help to see the lasers in daylight.

What is important to me is that it stays light and easy to transport.
Adding weight to it would not be good.

I would not want a longer trigger. I have Dewalt saw with a long trigger and you can't get it to shut off most of the time as you have to have two or three fingers on the trigger to get balance and then you can't hold it or move it with just your little finger.

Maybe a case Not a systainer....is the Festool God going to smite me?.... that fits close so you could protect it in transport and not take up the whole vehicle. it would be nice to carry if one handed but I don't agree with lifting the unit by the the motor handle or shafts that do all the precise adjustments. It works well today to lift by the base...just has to be a two handed thing.

If it didn't change any I would still love that saw!

Cheers,
Steve

 
 
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