Line laser levels

Hi all!

Well I just saw this Bosch Quigo Cross Line Laser!    WAIT!   Its not the laser level I want cus I already have a laser level Leica    

I like Lieca very nice lasers but they have no idea how to make brackets when it coms to brackets I think they get babies to design it as its the worst bracket I know off so poor it makes me sick [tongue] Looking at their new laser levels which come with brackets they dont look any better so!

I found a bosch B1 brackets a while ago and bought one and I love it very very nice bracket well made SOLID so I destroyed my crap Lieca out of anger before I threw it away but just now I found Bosch Quigo Cross Line Laser  which comes with a bracket!   Now im not interested in the Bosch Quigo but im interested in the bracket I want it!  Looks a really handy bracket to have easy fixes to studding and work tops etc. If its as well made as the Bosch B1 bracket it will be a very good bracket to have.  

So I have been looking but I can not find the bracket for sale with out the laser  [mad] just wondering if any one might know how to get it on its own or should I just call bosch or ask a retailer to see if they can get it as a spare/replacement part  or would that just work out as expensive as buying the laser with bracket?

Here is a reminder of the video of the Bosch B1 and Leica bracket on youtube I did about a year and half ago!
Bosch B1 laser bracket VS leica bracket

JMB
 
That has a decent magnet like the Bosch.  I don't understand how Leica have produced such a poor bracket knowing about all these others. 

When I first got the Leica and tried the bracket I was scared to fix my laser to it incase a draft came through the door and blows the bracket lol.  It's not just that what makes it a poor bracket it's the material the bracket is made of a alli very weak it bends really easily!    Another thing which makes it very poor is it has no high adjustment so if you hook it on a screw you have to keep removing the screw and moving it all the time to never actually get the laser where you want it.

That's why I love the Bosch B1 you stick a screw roughly where you want it and then the bracket has an adjustment of 70mm andjust like yours it has a good powerfully magnet.

  It can also be placed on a flat surface and has 2legs which swing out to give it more stability!  But it can't  clamp onto things and that's what I like about this new Bosch bracket I found! 

You don't always have something metal about and you cant always stick a screw into something and a tripod can get in the way but also some wooden floors have a little bounce in them enough to make the laser bounce every time some one walks past which is kinda annoying!  This New Bosch DIY bracket seems a good solution just a little handy bracket to keep with your laser so your well prepared for every situation!

Jmb
 
wouldnt you just stand the laser on the worktop rather than clamp it to it? i can see the point of clamping it on
 
That's a good question, Dean.

I've used mine sitting on its own mini tripod, the legs swing out with the touch of a button.

I've used the magnets to mount it to ferrous things.

I often use it on my camera tripod, which had an elevator so I can get it to just the height I want easily. I don't do a lot of work where I'm not on a slab. We don't have basements here. Stabila and others sell really robust tripods but I use my real light one and it works well for me.

Tom
 
Deansocial said:
wouldnt you just stand the laser on the worktop rather than clamp it to it? i can see the point of clamping it on
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Dean Dean Dean come on  standing it on a work top what if you wanted it lower?  Do you just use your laser as a datum point not as an actual line?  Cus if so I see your point and I suppose der would be no need to get the laser at the correct height.

Not just that but you can clamp it to other things shelves anything in that room so its out of the way but point or positioned where you want it.
 
Tom Bellemare said:
That's a good question, Dean.

I've used mine sitting on its own mini tripod, the legs swing out with the touch of a button.

I've used the magnets to mount it to ferrous things.

I often use it on my camera tripod, which had an elevator so I can get it to just the height I want easily. I don't do a lot of work where I'm not on a slab. We don't have basements here. Stabila and others sell really robust tripods but I use my real light one and it works well for me.

Tom
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Like I said before though.  Not always ferrous metals around to use the magnets  not always some where you can stick a screw unless you dont care causing damage to someones property  and  a tripod like I said before floors often cause lasers to bounce very slightly but over a distance it causes the laser to move alot.  So regardless how robust the tripod is it all depends on the floor.  Not just that a tripod can get knocked over or moved by some one while on a job  having it out to way clamped up some where keeps it away out of danger. 

Im not saying this clamp is the only solution its just a nice extra feature/function to have for your laser so your covering all areas.    Its like some one who has bought a pole for a laser but then ends up turning up on a job with  ceiling so heigh his pole wont reach  so a tripod comes in handy then I turn up on a job I have a tripod and my Bosch B1  and if I can get hold it it the New bosch clamp holder  I can select the appropriate bracket to use with my laser why make do with stuff if their are things out der to make it easier!

JMB
 
always as a datum point. maybe because if its a ceiling or wall its metal and reflects the laser all over the bloody place so set it to 1 side
 
must admit, i usually always set up the laser as a datum also.  mark a line all round, mark at every corner then take the laser away.
 
Okay then let me give you a good example when working on your own why having a laser at the correct hight helps!! 

Levelling up units! 

I set my laser up to the height I want the units to be to the bottom of the laser cus the laser is like 3mm thick! 

I mark on the wall with a pencil to the bottom of the laser all round where the units are lets say its a U shape kitchen.

Leaving the laser switched on still!

I rise all the units till the rear of the unit is close to the pencil/laser line I then can rise the front of the units untill I c a very tiny red line hit the front of the unit and I work my way down I have quickly gotten al the units very close to being level and straight with out the need to keep getting up checking my level on top of the units.

I can then do further adjustments to get them bang on with out the laser.

JMB
 
Hi JMB,

I use my laser level like you do set it up at a given height and use it to level all cabinet bases etc. I started out doing as you say & using the bottom of the laser line. Someone pointed out that you should use the center of the line as it stays constant where the top and bottom vary depending on distance. ( the line is fatter the further away you get from the level) I have a pole that locks between ceiling & floor & the Bosch mount has fine height adjustment to dial in where you need to be. I would not be without it after the first cabinet install I used it on!

Gerry
 
Oldwood said:
Hi JMB,

I use my laser level like you do set it up at a given height and use it to level all cabinet bases etc. I started out doing as you say & using the bottom of the laser line. Someone pointed out that you should use the center of the line as it stays constant where the top and bottom vary depending on distance. ( the line is fatter the further away you get from the level) I have a pole that locks between ceiling & floor & the Bosch mount has fine height adjustment to dial in where you need to be. I would not be without it after the first cabinet install I used it on!

Gerry
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Ummm never thought about that!  I would say it wud be difficult to get the centre of the laser on the front of the unit unless u place something on top so u know how thick the laser is to guess the centre.  That guessing the centre you could be out by 0.5 of mm and placing the laser roughly in the centre of room and having it shine on the wall where in some places it might be further away im sure wont vary the laser in thickness enough to affect anything even if it increases by 1mm in thickness thats 0.5 half the laser if ur only using the top or bottom of the laser which negligible.   

So even though I have taken in your advice and will keep it in mind for future jobs for what I have been using it for it has not affected me on my jobs.

The Pole is something I have been looking at a few years ago and have been meaning to get one for my laser setup collection as a tripod will only go so low or so heigh!  But a pole is restricted to normal height ceilings extremely tall ceilings it would fail.

JMB
 
Ya the pole is a problem on vaulted ceilings or ceilings over 12' but can be used in doorways etc. I do have a tripod but it does not get much use as I can usually find a way to set up the pole. The Bosch has a 360 degree line so you can set it up almost any where in the room.

I know what you mean about middle or bottom, it's a bit of a nit pick but I find the middle is not too hard to see on mine so that is what I shoot for.

Gerry

 
I find for door linings and units an old fashioned level is quicker and more accurate
i have a dewalt line laser which is very robust, the pendulum is locked when it is on its side and use it for boxings, or anything i need to plumb as its very quick to put the laser on the floor and line it up where i want to fix, also very handy for pelmets round glassed areas for suspended ceilings

 
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