Little Giant Ladder,(edit) with your help I did buy the RevXE 22

[WarnerConstCo.]

I believe that an extension ladder should project 2 or 3 feet
Above the roof edge.  I remember that from having to read
A bunch of OSHA stuff.  So, I believe the guy in the video is
Not too far off on how far that ladder is projecting above the roof line.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

3 feet

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

3 feet

Well then, he knew what he was doing.

 

[Julian Tracy]

Yea - but you wouldn't have the LG pivot point right at the roofline in normal use, at least I never have had a reason to.

Julian

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I don't know what you guys are referring to about this pivot point until I get to see it on my computer, but ladder safety states it extends 3 feet above the point of contact with the surface it's resting against if you're using the ladder to climb onto a surface. You are allowed to add ladder side arms to get the necessary 3 feet from the deck surface up. The ladder should be at a 75 degree incline and secure from movement at the ground.

 

[peter halle]

Ken,

In one of the two videos the "tester" extended the bottom portion of the ladder so that the hinge was at the gutter line.  The upper portion was at it's unextended state.  The other video had the hinge portion lower but it was sitting on snow - which the poster said wasn't slippery.  

Non slippery snow and time shares of the Brooklyn Bridge are in the same class in my humblest opinion as a bunch of cow digestive by products.

Peter

 

[Ken Nagrod]

[big grin]
What a visual!  Thanks Peter.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I just watched the two posted videos and the first point I'll make is that those ladders they show look like junky copy cats of my Wing Little Giant from 1999.  Mine is much heavier duty with bigger, stronger parts and 1200 pound rated hinges.  I have never had any issues or worries while using it in every possible configuration.  I have not kept up on the company's products or watched any of their infomercials, so I was unaware of the models used in the videos.

In the first video the guy talks about how his lift machine has its stabilizers planted in the snow and that should be the equivalent results to the Little Giant ladder being planted in the snow on the driveway.  That's absurd!  That machine outweighs that ladder by a tremendous difference.  You don't plant a ladder in the snow and up against a snowy roof.  That's just stupid and asking for trouble.  Common sense.

In the second video, there's another stupid move, putting the truck into the ladder to prevent it from kicking out.  I understand why they did it, but you never block the bottom of a ladder.  Staking it is ok, not blocking the path up and down.  Also the ladder does appear to be higher than 3 feet above the roof line which adds to the fulcrum effect.  I do agree that in this video and the first, the hinges appear too loose for safe operation.

This probably comes down to, "You get what you pay for."  Don't buy cheap goods, because you are cheap or you can't afford the right equipment.  Your hospital bill will more than make up the difference.  Buy smart, stay safe!

 

[Sparktrician]

I acquired my LG Model 17 in 1981 as I recall.  It has functioned flawlessly ever since.  Yes, it's heavier than some junk one can get at HD, and it's that extra material that makes it a whole bunch of safer in my book.  HD tried selling some cheap copies of the LG that were made in China about ten years ago.  All of a sudden they were gone.  The reason was that the welds kept breaking and HD kept getting sued.  You get what you pay for.  I also have the SureStep bi-directional short ladder that I wouldn't trade for anything.  Neither has ever given me a moment of trouble.  To suggest that LG ladders are anything less than the best is a bunch of bovine by-product, as Peter so eloquently put it. 

[smile]

 

[Rob Z]

I just saw a LG ladder at HD, about half the price of what I paid many years ago for our LG.  It says on the label "Engineered in USA, made in China".  It feels flimsy.  If we need another LG, I'll spend the extra money and buy the original. 

 

[harry_]

I too have the home depot version.... not sure if it is an apple to apples comparison with regards to quality but it seems functionally equivalent. The one I have extends to ~10'. I would not call it wobbly as I never feel that it is going to tip over from side to side, but it does feel a bit "spongy" (at the hinges, enough to make me check for the 27345th time that the hinge pins are fully engaged) when extended.

I have a 28'  fiberglass extension with levelers,..... a beast to move about (mostly because of the added weight of the levelers). I rarely use this ladder as i do mostly interior work if I can help it.

I have found the LG type ladder to be worth every penny paid. Like anything 'multipurpose' is is not the best thing for all things. One thing for sure it is best for getting:
a 10' ladder inside an 8' truck.
getting two plank horses inside the same truck.
getting the perfect ladder for stair work inside the same truck.
and doing the above all at the same time in a single footprint

My truck has a 'roll-out' which has a 4'x8' is footprint inside the bed. When the ladder is 'stored for travel', it is small enough to sit aside of the roll-out and out of the way as to not interfere. Sometimes it will reside there for months on end before it is used again but it ALWAYS travels with me.

I do however wish I had gotten a taller one

 

[Julian Tracy]

That's funny - to blame the heavy weight of a 28' fiberglass extension ladder on a couple of leg levelers.  Let me clue you in - you could take off the levelers and it'd STILL be heavy!

JT

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I have a 34' Aluminum Werner that just about kills me to move around or set up.

She sure is comfy when you are 25' up in the air though.

The LG's I have used are all probably 10 years old, you can easily tell the difference between the LG's and their knock off's.

 

[Steve R]

I too have the home depot version.... not sure if it is an apple to apples comparison with regards to quality but it seems functionally equivalent. The one I have extends to ~10'. I would not call it wobbly as I never feel that it is going to tip over from side to side, but it does feel a bit "spongy" (at the hinges, enough to make me check for the 27345th time that the hinge pins are fully engaged) when extended.

I have a 28'  fiberglass extension with levelers,..... a beast to move about (mostly because of the added weight of the levelers). I rarely use this ladder as i do mostly interior work if I can help it.

I have found the LG type ladder to be worth every penny paid. Like anything 'multipurpose' is is not the best thing for all things. One thing for sure it is best for getting:
a 10' ladder inside an 8' truck.
getting two plank horses inside the same truck.
getting the perfect ladder for stair work inside the same truck.
and doing the above all at the same time in a single footprint

My truck has a 'roll-out' which has a 4'x8' is footprint inside the bed. When the ladder is 'stored for travel', it is small enough to sit aside of the roll-out and out of the way as to not interfere. Sometimes it will reside there for months on end before it is used again but it ALWAYS travels with me.

I do however wish I had gotten a taller one

Harry,

Your post was helpful. I talked to by the Prodesk at HD awhile back and the guy said to me if you need it today the HD knock off will work. But the LG is better. He said "Too a fellow Pro, I would tell you not to buy our knock off as it will loosen up over time. The LG Won't. For our weekend builders that need a ladder 4 times a year, it is a great ladder." He went on to say that HD is testing sales of LG in some parts of the country and the hope to start caring them in stores.  They have sold them online at the same price as a LG for awhile.

So if I read you post correct you don't have the LG.... what size would yours be 17 or 22 or?? What size would you go to?

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Steve R]

The LG's I have used are all probably 10 years old, you can easily tell the difference between the LG's and their knock off's.

Okay..... does that mean LGs are better or worse?

Cheers,
Steve

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

The LG's I have used are all probably 10 years old, you can easily tell the difference between the LG's and their knock off's.

Okay..... does that mean LGs are better or worse?

Cheers,
Steve

The LG's are better by far.  If I am buying something I will use daily or at least a few times a week, I want to get the best I can.  Most times that means spending some extra money but, it is worth it in the over all scheme of things.

The knock-off's are lighter, if that tells you anything.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Lots of stuff going on with the Little Giant ladders.  I took a short crappy video with my phone to demonstrate the hinge movement on mine.  It's around an inch of flex, but I've never had that cause any issue for concern.  I don't get the movement while climbing or dismounting that was shown in the videos.  I've also included some pictures.

My ladder video

 

[harry_]

I too have the home depot version.... not sure if it is an apple to apples comparison with regards to quality but it seems functionally equivalent. The one I have extends to ~10'. I would not call it wobbly as I never feel that it is going to tip over from side to side, but it does feel a bit "spongy" (at the hinges, enough to make me check for the 27345th time that the hinge pins are fully engaged) when extended.

I have a 28'  fiberglass extension with levelers,..... a beast to move about (mostly because of the added weight of the levelers). I rarely use this ladder as i do mostly interior work if I can help it.

I have found the LG type ladder to be worth every penny paid. Like anything 'multipurpose' is is not the best thing for all things. One thing for sure it is best for getting:
a 10' ladder inside an 8' truck.
getting two plank horses inside the same truck.
getting the perfect ladder for stair work inside the same truck.
and doing the above all at the same time in a single footprint

My truck has a 'roll-out' which has a 4'x8' is footprint inside the bed. When the ladder is 'stored for travel', it is small enough to sit aside of the roll-out and out of the way as to not interfere. Sometimes it will reside there for months on end before it is used again but it ALWAYS travels with me.

I do however wish I had gotten a taller one

Harry,

Your post was helpful. I talked to by the Prodesk at HD awhile back and the guy said to me if you need it today the HD knock off will work. But the LG is better. He said "Too a fellow Pro, I would tell you not to buy our knock off as it will loosen up over time. The LG Won't. For our weekend builders that need a ladder 4 times a year, it is a great ladder." He went on to say that HD is testing sales of LG in some parts of the country and the hope to start caring them in stores.  They have sold them online at the same price as a LG for awhile.

So if I read you post correct you don't have the LG.... what size would yours be 17 or 22 or?? What size would you go to?

Cheers,
Steve

Fully extended, mine is 10' tall.

Although the HD version that I have is an LG 'knock-off' it is still a Werner, a ladder brand that I have been climbing up & down for almost 30 years.

 

[Steve R]

Lots of stuff going on with the Little Giant ladders.  I took a short crappy video with my phone to demonstrate the hinge movement on mine.  It's around an inch of flex, but I've never had that cause any issue for concern.  I don't get the movement while climbing or dismounting that was shown in the videos.  I've also included some pictures.

My ladder video

Ken,

Thanks for taking the time to video that. From What I, I think I know is that you have hinge that is at least 2 generations back. They went from the one connection like yours is, to a two pin and now to a four/quad lock. As we all know one clamp can get the job done but the more the better. [thumbs up]

I think this tread got a little bit off the topic/question I started with due to the "dink video" If was doing roofing I would go with a different ladder and the heck with the weight. I would had a crew...and safety is important.

I'm looking at adding to a few current ladders that will not mean I have to carry 7 more ladders to do 7 jobs. If need more height on a large project outside. I will rent or buy. The right tool for the application.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Steve R]

I too have the home depot version.... not sure if it is an apple to apples comparison with regards to quality but it seems functionally equivalent. The one I have extends to ~10'. I would not call it wobbly as I never feel that it is going to tip over from side to side, but it does feel a bit "spongy" (at the hinges, enough to make me check for the 27345th time that the hinge pins are fully engaged) when extended.

I have a 28'  fiberglass extension with levelers,..... a beast to move about (mostly because of the added weight of the levelers). I rarely use this ladder as i do mostly interior work if I can help it.

I have found the LG type ladder to be worth every penny paid. Like anything 'multipurpose' is is not the best thing for all things. One thing for sure it is best for getting:
a 10' ladder inside an 8' truck.
getting two plank horses inside the same truck.
getting the perfect ladder for stair work inside the same truck.
and doing the above all at the same time in a single footprint

My truck has a 'roll-out' which has a 4'x8' is footprint inside the bed. When the ladder is 'stored for travel', it is small enough to sit aside of the roll-out and out of the way as to not interfere. Sometimes it will reside there for months on end before it is used again but it ALWAYS travels with me.

I do however wish I had gotten a taller one

Harry,

Your post was helpful. I talked to by the Prodesk at HD awhile back and the guy said to me if you need it today the HD knock off will work. But the LG is better. He said "Too a fellow Pro, I would tell you not to buy our knock off as it will loosen up over time. The LG Won't. For our weekend builders that need a ladder 4 times a year, it is a great ladder." He went on to say that HD is testing sales of LG in some parts of the country and the hope to start caring them in stores.  They have sold them online at the same price as a LG for awhile.

So if I read you post correct you don't have the LG.... what size would yours be 17 or 22 or?? What size would you go to?

Cheers,
Steve

Fully extended, mine is 10' tall.

Although the HD version that I have is an LG 'knock-off' it is still a Werner, a ladder brand that I have been climbing up & down for almost 30 years.

Harry,

Thanks for the reply. Werner is a good brand and one I respect.  I'm just thinking that for multifunction ladder, LG would be the best to go with.

Cheers,
Steve