My Carvex 420 is now worse than ever

[peter halle]

What an odd thread.  Just saying.

Peter

 

[Kev]

I find it interesting that the original poster had two posts on June 10th and one more the following day -now after 8 months this thread still lives and we still haven't heard from the OP on what he decided to do?

We're seeing a bit of that sort of think lately! Less about being a community to collaborate and get the best out of our Festools .. more a place to rant about how much a particular Festool product is despised.

 

[Scott B.]

What an odd thread.  Just saying.

Peter

I can remember a time when things were a lot more...fun around here.  [blink]

 

[Tflapointe]

What's that saying again???

Oh yes,  You reap what you sow. 

 

[Staniam]

What an odd thread.  Just saying.

Peter

[member=1674]Peter Halle[/member] I had to skim through the last two pages after I read your most recent comment. You are correct, very odd haha.

In other news, I recently sold my Carvex here on the FOG to purchase the Bosch JS572EBL jigsaw and I am so happy I did. Now, I really really liked the Carvex but I didn't quite fall in love with it. It was a fantastic saw but just wasn't for me even though it always performed well. Needless to say, I'm happily in love with my new Bosch jigsaw. This thread is a bit odd. Festool is awesome sauce and Bosch is super duper cool. This forum brings me joy and hopefully now I've added to the "oddness" of this thread.

 

[peter halle]

Note to all - Please do not encourage this thread to go down the rabbit hole of rudeness and inappropriate posting.

Thanks.

P.Halle - Moderator

 

[bobfog]

As I stated in another thread, I recently bought the Bosch 160 BCE (in the UK) or as stated above the Bosch JS572EBL in the US. I sought information on the Carvex here before the purchase, but didn't have time to try both before, due to needing a Jigsaw for a job ASAP. So I mentally flipped a coin and made my decision to go with the Bosch.

So, a few days on I went to a local store that stocks Festool to see how the Carvex performed for myself and check if I'd made the right decision or not within the returns policy time for my Bosch.

I took a bit of 2x2 softwood and set about emulating some cuts that I'd also made with the Bosch to compare. I made sure the pendulum setting and speed on the Carvex matched the cuts I made with the Bosch and under the instruction of the assistant in the store correctly set the blade guide.

In the interest of fairplay I also took the same blade I used to cut the test pieces with the Bosch with me (a Bosch T308BP Precision for wood).

The results:

Carvex 420:

The Festool was almost perfectly square through most of the cut, apart from at the end of the cut where the blade broke out of the material. The assistant also tried and even with his technique the blade still wandered a little. The assistant and I came to the conclusion that the release of tension on the blade at the end of the cut caused a bit of wander. Though it was probably less than 1 degree, so I imagine in fairness to the Carvex this would be an acceptable tolerance for most jigsaw users.

Bosch 160 BCE:

The Bosch was perfectly square through out the entire cut with no wander of any kind. The assistant thought that the Bosch's blade guide sits slightly lower down the blade and closer to the material and therefore kept the blade slightly more rigid.

So in terms of cutting accuracy they were both on par with each other, save for a slight advantage for the Bosch. Though this was only 2" material the gap may have widened if it was thicker material.

However what was most surprising was that using the same blade, cutting speed and pendulum setting, the Bosch produced a far cleaner cut with less apparent tearing of the material. Picture below to illustrate.

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[joiner1970]

I find it interesting that the original poster had two posts on June 10th and one more the following day -now after 8 months this thread still lives and we still haven't heard from the OP on what he decided to do?

We're seeing a bit of that sort of think lately! Less about being a community to collaborate and get the best out of our Festools .. more a place to rant about how much a particular Festool product is despised.

True

 

[peter halle]

I find it interesting that the original poster had two posts on June 10th and one more the following day -now after 8 months this thread still lives and we still haven't heard from the OP on what he decided to do?

We're seeing a bit of that sort of think lately! Less about being a community to collaborate and get the best out of our Festools .. more a place to rant about how much a particular Festool product is despised.

True

Then let's take it back!  Don't get into those threads that you know instinctively will go "bad".  You don't have to love Festool or praise their tools to participate here.  We have thousands of members here who have done so much in their lifetimes in so many parts of the world in so many different ways.  Continue to share that.  Continue to help those like you were helped upon first joining.  Say hi and welcome them.  There will always be those who will use the forum in ways that it was never intended to be and unfortunately we (all of us) aren't going to be able to stop it.  But if there are posts that don't get attention and die then so be it.  There will be posters who are not happy when they post and might never be happy.  The longer a forum is around and the popularity of it does increase the number of dissenting or disenchanting posts.  Let's not go the route than so many other forums have gone - focusing on the dissension and unhappiness. 

I realize I sound like a desperate cheerleader here but it is past time for all of us to concentrate on the good versus the bad.

A special thank you to all of the Members who have given and care so much.  I assure you that it is noticed and appreciated.

Peter

 

[joiner1970]

I find it interesting that the original poster had two posts on June 10th and one more the following day -now after 8 months this thread still lives and we still haven't heard from the OP on what he decided to do?

We're seeing a bit of that sort of think lately! Less about being a community to collaborate and get the best out of our Festools .. more a place to rant about how much a particular Festool product is despised.

True

Then let's take it back!  Don't get into those threads that you know instinctively will go "bad".  You don't have to love Festool or praise their tools to participate here.  We have thousands of members here who have done so much in their lifetimes in so many parts of the world in so many different ways.  Continue to share that.  Continue to help those like you were helped upon first joining.  Say hi and welcome them.  There will always be those who will use the forum in ways that it was never intended to be and unfortunately we (all of us) aren't going to be able to stop it.  But if there are posts that don't get attention and die then so be it.  There will be posters who are not happy when they post and might never be happy.  The longer a forum is around and the popularity of it does increase the number of dissenting or disenchanting posts.  Let's not go the route than so many other forums have gone - focusing on the dissension and unhappiness. 

I realize I sound like a desperate cheerleader here but it is past time for all of us to concentrate on the good versus the bad.

A special thank you to all of the Members who have given and care so much.  I assure you that it is noticed and appreciated.

Peter

Well said Peter, I try to keep out of them and there's been a few lately about the kapex and carvex which touch wood have been fine for me so far.

My favourite threads are the useful ones  where people have made something or come up with a clever add on to a tool. Luckily there's still plenty of those here still.

 

[Tflapointe]

So I've figured out how to bend my blades to compensate for the Carvex's twisted holder. Works better so far after a few tests.

 

[bobfog]

So I've figured out how to bend my blades to compensate for the Carvex's twisted holder. Works better so far after a few tests.

I admire your ingenuity and resourcefulness, but that really seems like a huge bodge for a what is one of the most expensive jigsaws on the market!

 

[Tflapointe]

So I've figured out how to bend my blades to compensate for the Carvex's twisted holder. Works better so far after a few tests.

I admire your ingenuity and resourcefulness, but that really seems like a huge bodge for a what is one of the most expensive jigsaws on the market!

Well the 30-days of exchange are over. I bought the thing especially for the circle adapter.  By God!  If Festool cant fix it,  then I'll find my own solution.  I can't let all that money I payed for it go to waste. That's not a option.  My wife already wants to kill me for the fact I bought it in the first place.  Imagine if she found out it's a piece of junk >.

 

[Holmz]

So I've figured out how to bend my blades to compensate for the Carvex's twisted holder. Works better so far after a few tests.

I admire your ingenuity and resourcefulness, but that really seems like a huge bodge for a what is one of the most expensive jigsaws on the market!

Well the 30-days of exchange are over. I bought the thing especially for the circle adapter.  By God!  If Festool cant fix it,  then I'll find my own solution.  I can't let all that money I payed for it go to waste. That's not a option.  My wife already wants to kill me for the fact I bought it in the first place.  Imagine if she found out it's a piece of junk >.

 

[Kev]

So I've figured out how to bend my blades to compensate for the Carvex's twisted holder. Works better so far after a few tests.

I admire your ingenuity and resourcefulness, but that really seems like a huge bodge for a what is one of the most expensive jigsaws on the market!

Well the 30-days of exchange are over. I bought the thing especially for the circle adapter.  By God!  If Festool cant fix it,  then I'll find my own solution.  I can't let all that money I payed for it go to waste. That's not a option.  My wife already wants to kill me for the fact I bought it in the first place.  Imagine if she found out it's a piece of junk >.

 

[Holmz]

[member=13058]Kev[/member] - it took me 5 pages of this in order to get inspiration to turn a positive out the thread (or heart strings).

 

[Tflapointe]

[member=13058]Kev[/member] - it took me 5 pages of this in order to get inspiration to turn a positive out the thread (or heart strings).

Not a small feat, all things considered.