Need to build exterior kitchen cabinets...

[peter halle]

Tom,

My concern was that white poly depended on it's thickness to be white.  I guess the best way to explain is that a translucent white surface - if thick enough - would appear a solid color.  But if you inserted something dark one third of the way - the amount of material in front of that dark object would not be enough to hide.

I admit that I am somewhat ignorant as to Starboard and don't know the product qualities, so I just threw that out as a consideration to check out for someone who is going to be paying a considerable amount of money for product and then doing a project for a paying customer.

I can't wait to see the ultimate results.

Peter

 

[Jonhilgen]

I understand the concern about the dominos being visible, but I think since I will most likely be using them to join cabinet sides to bottoms I don't think they will be.  Once the toe kicks get installed, there will be little or no light under the cabinets to backlight the starboard and highlight domino.  Luckily there are no "finished" ends on any of the cabinets, just one base cabinet which will get an applied end panel.  No wall cabinets either.

You can bet I will test this prior to final assembly though.  I can just imagine me visualizing Peter's pictures of his cutting boards in my head as the client is chewing me out about "dark spots" inside his cabinets!.  

I just can't think of any other way to position the materials until I get screws in them, other than clamps, but where's the fun in that?  

Jon

 

[Jonhilgen]

I had cabinets made of Starboard on my last boat too.  Hated them.  Most of the others in the boating group also complained about Starboard.  The material is easily marked yet can be tough at times to clean -- been there.  But, it is easily machined with woodworking tools and will work for outdoor cabinetry.

Yeah, even the starboard salesman that was getting me quotes thought I was nuts to be using polar white in an outdoor kitchen "next to a grill?.  He said once you get some oil on it, you cant hesitate to clean it.  You have to jump on it right away to make sure it doesn't stain.  Once I told him the color wasn't my choice, but a kitchen designer's, he knowingly chuckled and said "Typical".   ;D

I foresee plenty of warranty replacement doors (charged back to the designer, of course)

 

[tbellemare]

Another product that would work, but is pretty expensive, is Richlite. It's used as counter tops and also for tooling at Boeing. It's more opaque than white poly and comes in a lot of colors.

Tom

 

[Jonhilgen]

Another product that would work, but is pretty expensive, is Richlite. It's used as counter tops and also for tooling at Boeing. It's more opaque than white poly and comes in a lot of colors.

Tom

Wow, haven't heard of that product for a while.  Used it in a laundry room years ago, looked great.  would like to use it, but the designer already sold the clients on Starboard/Seaboard.

Thanks Tom.

Jon

 

[Jonhilgen]

Whoo hoo!  Just sent the deposit invoice!  Job is a go!  I'll try to do my best to document it with pictures, and hopefully there will be some shiny new green tools in them...

Peter, Brice, Tom, corwin, warnerconst, and everyone else, thanks for you input.  It has been invaluable.

p.s. has anyone else noticed that the more green tools you own, the more green you make, only to buy more green tools...hmmm.  It's a vicious cycle that I plan on continuing.

Jon

 

[peter halle]

Jon,

Congrats on the job.  Can't wait to see what you come up with!

Peter

 

[Jonhilgen]

Cabinets are built and ready for install (should happen in the next month)!

 

[Brice Burrell]

I was hoping you'd update us with this project. I'd love to hear more about the build and the material.

 

[fshanno]

Nice boxes!  Looks like that job will be something you can be proud of for the rest of your life, literally.  Judging from the doors you had no trouble with flatness. 

I have about a zillion questions.

What size sheets did you start with? 

I really like those feet.  What about the hardware?  Is it all stainless?  Are there any drawers?  If so did you make the boxes out of the starboard?

Did you cut out the parts with a TS55?

What's the countertop going to be?

 

[Jonhilgen]

Nice boxes!  Looks like that job will be something you can be proud of for the rest of your life, literally.  Judging from the doors you had no trouble with flatness. 

I have about a zillion questions.

What size sheets did you start with? 

I really like those feet.  What about the hardware?  Is it all stainless?  Are there any drawers?  If so did you make the boxes out of the starboard?

Did you cut out the parts with a TS55?

What's the countertop going to be?

I was hoping you'd update us with this project. I'd love to hear more about the build and the material.

Hey guys,

Will give a full update on material/buildout soon...just in the weeds and trying to keep up with the workload.

Quickly:

Sheets were 54 x 96
Drawers are out of starboard
Feet are stainless, as are all drawer glides, and all screws (have a great supplier up in Jersey for feet!)
Parts were cut with ts55 (cut like a dream), but all finished edges had to be routed to clean them up, very time consuming but well worth it.

Jon

 

[Jonhilgen]

Finally have some time to post completed pics.  Woo hoo! A big thanks to all (especially Peter who pointed me toward Starboard, just couldn't remember the name...)

 

[madera]

Very Nice!! I had to save those pics in case an opportunity to build that ever presents itself.  Did you end up using a domino or get to buy any more festool.

 

[tiralie]

Jon:
Thanks for documenting!
I learned a lot.
Never heard of Starboard before.
Now I know.
BTW, nice scribe around the brick! Must have been fun.
Tim

 

[Brice Burrell]

Great job. [thumbs up]

 

[Jonhilgen]

Jon:
Thanks for documenting!
I learned a lot.
Never heard of Starboard before.
Now I know.
BTW, nice scribe around the brick! Must have been fun.
Tim

Thanks Tim.  Yeah, scribing to the brick was fun. 

Great job. [thumbs up]

Thanks Brice.