New Handheld Technology

[Scott B.]

Scott,

Would the lower pressure and new LP tip allow you to put out less product, translating to less overspray and a more relaxed application rate?

For the occasional paint grade bookcase/cabinet/door, etc. would this be preferable to an HVLP?

That is the theory, that the product will be more controlled and the fan delivered at a lower pressure than with the previous generations. That is a good improvement. I have been using them since the very first ProShot in 2010 and have done everything from cabinets to exterior trims with the different models. You had to fly with them. Thats a lot of power to have in the palm of your hand.

Preferable to HVLP? That is going to vary from one person to the next. When the handhelds are good and working and maintained correctly, they are easier in some ways to use than HVLP. That is a two edged sword though. They have more power, so on finer tasks the handhelds can demand some technique adjustments from the user. For example, your distance to what you are spraying and your pace will be very different compared to HVLP. With some practice, it is pretty easy to sort out.

With both HVLP and handhelds, you can mess up projects, just in different ways - at different ends of the spectrum. Its a good comparison.

One place that the handheld might get the nod over HVLP among lots of users is in latex primer and paint. It can be difficult for occasional HVLP users to dial in for that.

For me personally, if I had one door to do or one bookcase or small set of shelves in latex, I would probably grab the handheld just because I know I could do it faster.

If it was a more formal piece in oil based clear, HVLP. As with most choices, it depends on the types of tasks and products you tend to be in the most.

 

[frodo]

Good information. Thanks. I held off with the previous generation for the specific reasons that have now been addressed. The DeWalt battery and ability to use the tips with my 395 will most likely sway me into getting one. I have had my share of struggles with latex and HVLP.

 

[Scott B.]

Good information. Thanks. I held off with the previous generation for the specific reasons that have now been addressed. The DeWalt battery and ability to use the tips with my 395 will most likely sway me into getting one. I have had my share of struggles with latex and HVLP.

I'll keep this thread updated. We will be showing some of our test footage with the new rigs starting next week and will try to make it as clear as possible what the differences are and how they work.

 

[tiralie]

Here is a quick glimpse:
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/02/preview-graco-ultra-handheld-sprayers/

The page is messed up...getting a page of symbols with Chrome browser...I may have too many tabs open.

 

[wptski]

Here is a quick glimpse:
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/02/preview-graco-ultra-handheld-sprayers/

The page is messed up...getting a page of symbols with Chrome browser...I may have too many tabs open.

Nope!  Same here but it did work before.

 

[tjbnwi]

Works fine on Safari.

Tom

 

[wptski]

Works fine on Safari.

Tom

Poltergeist?

 

[tjbnwi]

Works fine on Safari.

Tom

Poltergeist?

Russians....

Tom

 

[wptski]

Russians....

Tom

I'm calling Donald to help out!

 

[wptski]

I've never heard of the phrase ‘hot’ solvent based product. Anyone care to enlighten? What's the difference from good ol' solvent based paints/stains/varnishes?

Probably means flammable vs combustible.

 

[tjbnwi]

I've never heard of the phrase ‘hot’ solvent based product. Anyone care to enlighten? What's the difference from good ol' solvent based paints/stains/varnishes?

Probably means post catalyzed, I'm not sure. See paragraph #3.
http://www.ronbryze.com/finishing_information/CatalyzedFinishes.pdf

Like setting type drywall compounds are called "hot mud".

Tom

 

[Scott B.]

I'd probably take it to mean any product that I wouldn't atomize and stand with a flame next to.

From the Graco website (and just my own interpretation):

 

[Scott B.]

This is my written overview of the 2017 Graco handhelds. It includes a video shot by Tools of the Trade at JLC Live this year.

Thought I would share here in case members were curious about it.

Happy to answer questions about it.
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/05/graco-ultra-handheld-airless-sprayer/

 

[Cheese]

This is my written overview of the 2017 Graco handhelds.
Thought I would share here in case members were curious about it.

Happy to answer questions about it.
http://topcoatreview.com/2017/05/graco-ultra-handheld-airless-sprayer/

Thanks for the informative review Scott.  [big grin]  Every operation with this new gun seems to be simplified and easier to perform.

I have a Binks HVLP setup but it's a PITA to use for small projects, so I usually bring out the brush, roller or worse yet, the rattle can. I would expect this gun to cover 70-80% of my finishing needs.  [cool]

Interested in your thoughts on overspray and bounce back?

 

[nclemmons]

Nice upgrade!  I have the previous model and these are all nice improvements.  How is cleaning this gun, Scott?

 

[JBag09]

I have heard a lot of great things about these spray guns. They seem like the perfect thing to take along to refinish kitchen cabinets on site.
My only concern is, are they capable of spraying todays latex primers and paints? Like SW wall&wood or ProClassic without a huge amount of thinning

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[tiralie]

My only concern is, are they capable of spraying todays latex primers and paints? Like SW wall&wood or ProClassic without a huge amount of thinning

Zero thinning required.
These airless guns are designed to spray this stuff or rather this paint is designed to be sprayed with an airless, and it leaves an amazing finish.
Tim

 

[Scott B.]

Thanks for the feedback and questions.

No thinning required. In the video, I am shooting unthinned acrylic (ProClassic I believe).

Below is another vid showing more of a vertical demo with unthinned latex.

Cleaning is real easy with the new liners. You can just toss them (they are inexpensive) or clean them out easily. One quick flush of about a half cup gets the pump clean, then just clean tip.
=642s

 

[nickao]

Oh man, I may have to trade in my TrueCoat Plus II. I'm mostly spraying small things when I spray, but I can't keep up with the amount of paint it puts out.

That's a bit vague!  Trade In means return something but there's no mention of returning anything.  Do they want proof of purchase on the trade in as well?  I sure don't have that.  The web address mentioned in the PDF is there but not fully functional yet.

I took it to mean he is going to sell it off, when I say time to trade up that's what I am talking about. To ebay or the forum the stuff goes.

 

[Scott B.]

Oh man, I may have to trade in my TrueCoat Plus II. I'm mostly spraying small things when I spray, but I can't keep up with the amount of paint it puts out.

That's a bit vague!  Trade In means return something but there's no mention of returning anything.  Do they want proof of purchase on the trade in as well?  I sure don't have that.  The web address mentioned in the PDF is there but not fully functional yet.

I took it to mean he is going to sell it off, when I say time to trade up that's what I am talking about. To ebay or the forum the stuff goes.

There is a trade in credit that I know many users have taken advantage of. Check with your local dealer.