bwehman
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Looks pretty minimalist, almost like a Trion replacement ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
New jigsaw model just announced...
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Michael Kellough
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Looks really sleek but…
And why does it have such a tall Systainer?
And why does it have such a tall Systainer?
Packard
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Because they are storing it vertically? To make room for some expensive Festool accessories.
My Bosch jigsaw stores flat, and I have to figure out which way it goes in each time I put it away. Vertically would be simpler. (And the power cord never wants to fit in the case.
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Hawkeye0001
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Prob for the charger. After they moved from the TCL 3 to TCL 6's form factor all the inlays basically doubled in size (remember when a T18 drill was stored in a SYS 1 with space to spare for two boxes of consumables to the right?)
When you look at the stats it makes you wanna cry a bit. That saw is really stripped down to bare metal when it comes to functions and utilisation, certainly not a replacement for the PS 300 or PSC 420 by a long shot.
I think they changed/standardised the systainers for the accu-tools so there is always space for a charger in the box. Sort of makes sense, but also a bit annoying when you have bought into the system exactly so you do not need a charger with every tool
Michael Kellough
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Right. You don’t need a cord for every tool and you don’t a battery for every tool either. You certainly don’t need to waste space for a charger in every Sys.I think they changed/standardised the systainers for the accu-tools so there is always space for a charger in the box. Sort of makes sense, but also a bit annoying when you have bought into the system exactly so you do not need a charger with every tool
Michael Kellough
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Some of you 3D printing guys should design a charger shaped container for accessories to put in the charger void in the Sys.
onocoffee
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I hope it's an improvement on the Trion. If they made it better than the P1CC, it would be a No Brainer. Short of that...
Not much of a CAD-designer myself, but that is actually not a bad idea!
Hawkeye0001
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From the newly released stats on their website I'm afraid that - while we all hoped for an Aston Martin to take it up with Mafell - we're about to get the equivalent of an 18V Yugo. Frankly I cannot see any improvement over the Trion or Carvex (actually far from it!), let alone the P1cc or PS2-18:
Compare that to the extensive application scopes of the PS 300, PS 420 or PSC 420 and this thing falls short in every aspect even if tossed off a roof. I suppose it'd be fair enough if it was priced competetively (similar to a CXS drill or a CT 15 vac), but I really don't get why they'd chose the path of such a bare bones machine; knowing full well that their flagship jig saw has suffered from a long list of ailments ever since its release 16 years ago and has been in massive demand of a replacement for over a decade.
Time will tell...
Michael Kellough
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I guess it’s intended to compete with this Bosch,
https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/products/gst18v-60bcn-06015B0011 (The tool bar at top is grayed out so can’t link)
At least the Festool looks much nicer.
https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/products/gst18v-60bcn-06015B0011 (The tool bar at top is grayed out so can’t link)
At least the Festool looks much nicer.
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Cheese
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Just reading between the lines here...I wonder if they eliminated the adjustable carbide guides as there is no mention of them and they were prominently displayed on the Trion & Carvex web pages? 
The P1cc certainly doesn't need them for 90º cuts.
The P1cc certainly doesn't need them for 90º cuts.
Michael Kellough
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I hate the carbide guides on my TRION. Either they are too loose to be useful or they rub too much and burn the blade. And they need to be readjusted for every blade of a different type.Just reading between the lines here...I wonder if they eliminated the adjustable carbide guides as there is no mention of them and they were prominently displayed on the Trion & Carvex web pages?
The P1cc certainly doesn't need them for 90º cuts.
Michael Kellough
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It does look like the dust collection on the new Festool might be good. The plastic dust chute has a generous opening in the front compared to past versions.
Cheese
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The 2 major reasons I switched to Mafell was the 90º vertical cuts and the lack of carbide guides that need constant fiddling with. I have a bunch of blued jigsaw blades because of the incorrect adjustment of the carbide guides.
Hawkeye0001
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The website speaks of roller guides, so it seems that way.Just reading between the lines here...I wonder if they eliminated the adjustable carbide guides as there is no mention of them and they were prominently displayed on the Trion & Carvex web pages?
The P1cc certainly doesn't need them for 90º cuts.
Packard
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I have the Bosch corded jigsaw. It had good ratings, and it has proved to be a very good tool. Once set, it holds the adjustments, installing and removing blades is quick and easy, and the variable speed works very well.
And while I will accept that the Festool version works really well, I have my doubts that it will work substantially better than the Bosch (though the blow-molded case does have room for improvement. Finding a way to close the case without the power cord sneaking out would be an improvement.
Of course, mine is a corded version and the Festool is battery powered.
The one thing I miss about corded tools (especially corded drills) is the fan that cools the motor is handy for blowing away sawdust. Battery powered drills don’t generate that fan-power.
luvmytoolz
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What a shame. I've been holding off on getting a P1CC for ages as I'd really like a Festool cordless that would compare favourably with it.
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