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neeleman said:
I did the exact same thing the other day. Used the C15 chuck on my CXS for a bit that was too large for the CXS chuck. Worked fine.
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I did the exact same thing the other day. Used the C15 chuck on my CXS for a bit that was too large for the CXS chuck. Worked fine.
Mike A.
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Neeleman: I think the wording in the folder is incorrect and I also think you are wrong on that part. The wording is connotating the fuel gauge to the CXS and not to the battery itself. The photo you posted also suggests that it is clearly not on the battery.
If you look at all the photos NONE of them show a gauge on the battery, front side or back. The only photo that shows the gauge is on the mounting shoe on the TXS, in the LED mount. Three dots.
Same for the CXS, barely visible in the one product shot with the "facelift" CXS. The photo of the 2,6Ah battery does not show a fuel gauge and it is certainly not there in the product shots I have seen, three/four of which shows the back of the battery.
I could of course be wrong, we'll have to see. But there is no evidence in the photos to suggest otherwise.
The regular 13mm chuck is a bit unwieldy on the small CXS - I have used it, but I prefer not to. 8mm is too small but the 10mm is what the smaller chuck should have been capable of from the beginning. The new chuck is smaller and the "right size" as I see it. I have spare standard chucks but I find them to be an ill fit for the CXS.
On the other hand the small chuck has seen some action on the C12 which was nice for the small drilling tasks.
If you look at all the photos NONE of them show a gauge on the battery, front side or back. The only photo that shows the gauge is on the mounting shoe on the TXS, in the LED mount. Three dots.
Same for the CXS, barely visible in the one product shot with the "facelift" CXS. The photo of the 2,6Ah battery does not show a fuel gauge and it is certainly not there in the product shots I have seen, three/four of which shows the back of the battery.
I could of course be wrong, we'll have to see. But there is no evidence in the photos to suggest otherwise.
The regular 13mm chuck is a bit unwieldy on the small CXS - I have used it, but I prefer not to. 8mm is too small but the 10mm is what the smaller chuck should have been capable of from the beginning. The new chuck is smaller and the "right size" as I see it. I have spare standard chucks but I find them to be an ill fit for the CXS.
On the other hand the small chuck has seen some action on the C12 which was nice for the small drilling tasks.
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All in all I think the new CXS is all that I wanted it to be, except for brushless. The 2,6Ah battery and the 10mm chuck seals the deal for me. I have very few drillbits/drills that are over 10mm and none of them are suitable for the CXS anyway.
I will have to weigh the cost of one/two extra batteries per CXS and 10mm chuck against the whole kit. I might be best off with two Plus kits and keep my old CXS condiments or simply handing down my oldest CXS and keep one as a spare and get two new kits.
I entertained the idea of one TXS and one CXS but judging from the side by side shots the TXS is too big for being so small [blink] if you get my drift.
I will have to weigh the cost of one/two extra batteries per CXS and 10mm chuck against the whole kit. I might be best off with two Plus kits and keep my old CXS condiments or simply handing down my oldest CXS and keep one as a spare and get two new kits.
I entertained the idea of one TXS and one CXS but judging from the side by side shots the TXS is too big for being so small [blink] if you get my drift.
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Hi Henrik,
I think you're right about the battery gauge.
I've also seen the 3 yellow dots on the picture I placed myself.
But the light on the CXS is located much higher and I doubt if you can see the yellow lights properly.
In the EKAT catalogue I've already seen some updated parts on the new CSX (10010708). There's no TXS in the EKAT yet.
On the other hand I've not seen any pictures of the back of the new 2.6 Ah batteries. Maybe the gauge is located there?
I also would like to see the CXS and TXS from the side as well and in real life. I don't think the TXS is that much larger/deeper. The hand position on the CXS can be a problem in really tight spaces. With the TXS your hand is covered by the back of the machine.
It will be a personal choice and the same discussion like the regular C and T-models.
BTW.
Why is it called a C-model, looks more like a D-model to me?
And will the front part of the CXS stay hollow with the new batteries?
Same with the MXC charger, it can be build smaller for the new batteries only?
I think you're right about the battery gauge.
I've also seen the 3 yellow dots on the picture I placed myself.
But the light on the CXS is located much higher and I doubt if you can see the yellow lights properly.
In the EKAT catalogue I've already seen some updated parts on the new CSX (10010708). There's no TXS in the EKAT yet.
On the other hand I've not seen any pictures of the back of the new 2.6 Ah batteries. Maybe the gauge is located there?
I also would like to see the CXS and TXS from the side as well and in real life. I don't think the TXS is that much larger/deeper. The hand position on the CXS can be a problem in really tight spaces. With the TXS your hand is covered by the back of the machine.
It will be a personal choice and the same discussion like the regular C and T-models.
BTW.
Why is it called a C-model, looks more like a D-model to me?
And will the front part of the CXS stay hollow with the new batteries?
Same with the MXC charger, it can be build smaller for the new batteries only?
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Neeleman:
Here is the back of the battery:
http://static.axminster.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/0/506746_inset5_xl.jpg
One more, though a bit blurry: the LED/gauge is lit, the back of battery is black.
http://static.axminster.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/0/506746_inset7_xl.jpg
Here is the back of the battery:
http://static.axminster.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/0/506746_inset5_xl.jpg
One more, though a bit blurry: the LED/gauge is lit, the back of battery is black.
http://static.axminster.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/0/506746_inset7_xl.jpg
The new CXS still has a beefy front finger guard (the bit holding part). I wonder what is in that space now that the battery does not slide up in there. My understanding is that it can't use the older batteries so it may just be empty space. I wonder why they didn't slim that part down.
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@jbird
I think you mean the CXS.
And I think you can also use the older batteries in the updated CXS. That's why the front guard is still there. But I'm not sure yet.
@henrik
You're right about the battery gauge, it's not on the back of the battery.
I visit the Axminster web-site quite regular and bought some goods yesterday also. I didn't examine the picture close enough.
I think you mean the CXS.
And I think you can also use the older batteries in the updated CXS. That's why the front guard is still there. But I'm not sure yet.
@henrik
You're right about the battery gauge, it's not on the back of the battery.
I visit the Axminster web-site quite regular and bought some goods yesterday also. I didn't examine the picture close enough.
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JBird: yes, only the front portion of the new CXS battery slots in, the rest is empty space. I think it is the trade off for making it work on the TXS and the CXS.
I think the older "stick" was a working part of the battery but the new one has the cells down below and the stick is not necessary. For the TXS the stick would be in the way. The new facelift CXS will accept the old batteries which is nice but in all honesty considering the small weight I could have lived without it.
The fuel gauge on the CXS is probably quite rudimentary and probably "does the job". I think it will be a workable solution though it is a shame that you have to mount a battery to gauge it. I would have preferred a gauge on the battery myself.
I think the older "stick" was a working part of the battery but the new one has the cells down below and the stick is not necessary. For the TXS the stick would be in the way. The new facelift CXS will accept the old batteries which is nice but in all honesty considering the small weight I could have lived without it.
The fuel gauge on the CXS is probably quite rudimentary and probably "does the job". I think it will be a workable solution though it is a shame that you have to mount a battery to gauge it. I would have preferred a gauge on the battery myself.
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Neeleman; no worries, I have been wrong in a couple of instances myself regarding products and I did not set out to "correct" you. Just reporting what I have seen and heard. In the latter case it is just hearsay sometimes.
I have heard that some european countries get the CXS as early as February - which of course is part hearsay and wishful thinking on my part. Best guesstimate was early spring for Sweden.
I have heard that some european countries get the CXS as early as February - which of course is part hearsay and wishful thinking on my part. Best guesstimate was early spring for Sweden.
Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits said:
I think I feel the same way. It's left over design baggage that makes the new CXS seem like a compromise and not wholly conceived. Functionally I don't have any problem with it. Will be an advantage for some. But it's a wart of sorts in a design sense.
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Thanks Henrik, it's always nice to do some speculation on the new Festools.
And until February or Spring is still a long time waiting.
Until now there's not much information on the internet about the new CXS/TXS models.
First someone on the FOG found a Dutch website/shop which is located in my own home town with pictures of the TXS.
After that I also went looking on the internet and I only found some information with Axminster.
And in the beginning of this year Festool produced the "Unplugged" documentation.
I'm thinking of selling my 12/15V machines and only use 10,8/18V machines in the future.
And until February or Spring is still a long time waiting.
Until now there's not much information on the internet about the new CXS/TXS models.
First someone on the FOG found a Dutch website/shop which is located in my own home town with pictures of the TXS.
After that I also went looking on the internet and I only found some information with Axminster.
And in the beginning of this year Festool produced the "Unplugged" documentation.
I'm thinking of selling my 12/15V machines and only use 10,8/18V machines in the future.
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Phil Beckley said:
The charge indicator is on the machine and not the battery
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Phil
Sorry, I wasn't referring to Festool specifically, they do indeed offer those, but are seemingly the only player in that market. Everyone else abandoned that middle ground a while back, ever since NiCd disappeared really (though DeWalt is still trying to clear out the 18v NiCd XRP stuff judging by all the black Friday sales they keep pushing ;D ).
With the 10.8/12v stuff as powerful as it is now though, and 18v offerings getting lighter, it's losing ground on both ends.
With the 10.8/12v stuff as powerful as it is now though, and 18v offerings getting lighter, it's losing ground on both ends.
