OF-1400 Dustcollection

[EcoFurniture]

Thanks for the info!
I just had a look at that dust hood and I still have no idea what you guys are talking about.... There is no door/flap or anything else that could be closed.
Took some pics but can't upload them till tonight.

Cheers

 

[rnt80]

Don't worry you're not alone.  I didn't find the "door" or rotating piece for a couple of months.  There is a piece of the shroud that rotates out of the way so that you can take the entire thing off of the router while you have a bit chucked in the router.

 

[Kevin Stricker]

This picture shows the door open Festool dust shroud  The shroud can close completely around the collet and should only be opened to remove the shroud when a bit is in place.

 

[Forrest Anderson]

I just had a look at that dust hood and I still have no idea what you guys are talking about.... There is no door/flap or anything else that could be closed.

To elaborate on Russell and Kevin's answers, here is the diagram from the Instruction Manual:

The flap/door in question is marked 4.4 in the diagram and called a "segment". It rotates clockwise from the open position (shown), so that it closes off the gap at the router bit end of item 4.6.

Perhaps your "segment" has become detached?

Forrest

 

[sw1211]

Maybe these pictures will help, 1st it's open, 2nd closed

 

[Aegwyn11]

For what its worth, I did some roundover work the other night. First time I used the chip catcher half-cup thing...was was pretty impressed. Granted it was a small radius roundover (5/16" if I remember right), but I didn't really notice any chips/dust getting away. I think the key is to not have unrealistic expectations about how much dust/chips you're going to catch with a given attachment for a given operation. With Festool, its all too easy to expect 95%++ of the dust/chips to get caught all the time...sometimes that just isn't physically possible.

 

[EcoFurniture]

Thanks for the pic! It helped  [eek] Anyhow, got that thing out of the box and yes it was closed...
Guess I have to get a spiral bit....

 

[kev carpenter]

Doing more worktop mitres today and the dust collection is terrible so much so i think I'm going to send it back and get a 2200 my old dewalt did better at half the price but i think a smaller diameter hole on the shroud would work i don't know if you can buy one [scratch chin]

 

[Aegwyn11]

Doing more worktop mitres today and the dust collection is terrible so much so i think I'm going to send it back and get a 2200 my old dewalt did better at half the price but i think a smaller diameter hole on the shroud would work i don't know if you can buy one [scratch chin]

Understand that I'm not a professional...just a DIY'er who's still learning all this fun stuff. But based on my limited experience, I think you might have overly optimistic ideas of what you're going to get for dust collection. Rick (below) hit the nail on the head, I think...

Your dust collection results will vary depending on how you have the router setup. For example, if you are edge-routing and your dust collection is only from above the router base, then you won't capture any of the material, as it will be outside the radius of influence before the suction can even slow the speed of the debris. So for that case, you either need to use the deflector or one of the vac connections for use below the router base.

Also, you might try a smaller spiral bit. I have a 1/4" spiral up-cut that I've used for this type of thing and it makes CONSIDERABLY less mess than my 1/2" spiral. Plus the 1/4" bit was about half the cost of the 1/2" bit (about $25 if I remember correctly). If you really wanted to minimize the mess, try using a 1/4" bit. Using that, make a first pass plunged to almost the depth of the wood, leaving a little bit left (basically creating a dado). Be sure and leave a small amount at the front uncut to block the debris from going out that way. The trench you just cut will help to keep the chips from exiting the area of the vac's suction before it can grab them. Then, make a 2nd pass to trim off the remainder, leaving a minimal mess.

Another idea I just had as I was typing was to try setting the piece to be cut on some of that hard foam stuff. Just like with a TS55/75, this would serve to prevent the debris from leaving the vac's suction before it can slow it down and pull it in. At least in my head, this seems like it would work really good...

Another question, couldn't you cut these types of miters with a TS55/75? I would imagine the mess would be less than using a router just because of how the waste material is coming off to tool. But if you don't have a TS, I can see why you'd want to do this with a router.

 

[kev carpenter]

This me doing a mitre with my old router setup which worked allot better at half the price and i don't think you can use spiral bits and if you could it would bankrupt me as you only get one mitre join per router bit then you bin them [eek] allot of money as i can do up to 3 per week only charge 60 GBP PER miter and a ts 55 would not work as the join has to nearly invisible

I don't think i am being fussy but i bout it to make my life easier and i sold my old router which was nearly new as it was i just want it to do its job and festool is all about dust collection for me

 

[Aegwyn11]

This me doing a mitre with my old router setup which worked allot better at half the price and i don't think you can use spiral bits and if you could it would bankrupt me as you only get one mitre join per router bit then you bin them [eek] allot of money as i can do up to 3 per week only charge 60 GBP PER miter and a ts 55 would not work as the join has to nearly invisible

I don't think i am being fussy but i bout it to make my life easier and i sold my old router which was nearly new as it was i just want it to do its job and festool is all about dust collection for me

Perhaps I'm not understanding exactly what a 'worktop miter' is. I thought it was where you had two pieces of countertop that needed to meet up. Based on Kev's comments here, I don't think that my understanding is correct. I know this is super basic, but can someone educate me?

 

[kev carpenter]

A mitre is cut with a worktop jig and a 1/2 router it is basic when you have learned it not allot of people do i even do other joiners worktop miters ,allot of joiners in Britain are afraid of routers for some reason (mainly lazy or set in their ways) any way

I phoned up my dealership and he put me in contact with the festool rep and he confirmed that their was not a smaller insert for the shroud
and they did a deal with me for the of-2200 (nice machine) and the accessories kit but I'm a bit disappointed that it isn't plug-it and i kind of Miss the of-1400 i liked it  and i think of-1400 is a match maid in heaven for the ts-55 ( i might even buy one again [blink]) but i need good dust extraction and i bought the DEWALT finish nailer to replace my pasload (rubbish)

 

[ianwalls]

I agree Kev, when cutting worktops with the OF1400 and CT22, the dust collection is practically non existent. Even at shallow depth, let alone when you're plunged quite deep.

I resided to the fact that you're basically creating a housing (or as our American friends seem to call them, 'Dados') the same width as your cutter and the cutter is simply blocking the area that the chips should go. Perhaps if the dust extraction was following behind the router where your cut has just been made, it might work better. I have no solution other than running the router back down the jig with the plunge raised.

For edge rebating/moulding/round overs, the dust collection with the chip deflector is great. Works really, really well. I have all the dust collection attachment for the 1400 so I can pretty get most stuff sucked up, but worktop mitres and other housings so remain a bit of a problem.

 

[fatroman]

Anyone know if the sliding door is available as a replacement part? Not the whole shroud, just the door.

Picked up a 1400 off CL the other week for $250. Guy wanted something to put in a router table instead, and it looked like it's been turned on all of 3 times. So I'm sure I can suck it up and get the whole shroud if necessary with what I saved  [big grin]

Thanks,
Steve

 

[kev carpenter]

Hi ian
even when i passed over it full with dust it didnt pick anything its a bit embarassing when all i go on about at work is festool and when i was getting watched buy 2 different people said  THAT DUSNY WORK WELL DUS IT (scottish slang [big grin]) but i do like the router and i think it would work well if it had smaller shroud or a plastic insert .

So i got the of-2200 its a big beast havent used it yet and will not for a couple of weeks probably but its pretty scary when you put it up full speed very powerfull sounding  [scared]

 

[ianwalls]

Fatroman - Not sure if its available as a spare on its own. There are spare parts diagrams available on festool.co.uk that may show you.

Kev - I think if you're doing loads of worktops the 2200 will be the better unit anyway. The weight alone must help, let alone the power. Let me know how you get on with the dust extraction on it.

 

[Brice Burrell]

....So i got the of-2200 its a big beast havent used it yet and will not for a couple of weeks probably but its pretty scary when you put it up full speed very powerfull sounding  [scared]

Yes, but it is very easy to handle for a router so big and powerful.

 

[kev carpenter]

....So i got the of-2200 its a big beast havent used it yet and will not for a couple of weeks probably but its pretty scary when you put it up full speed very powerfull sounding  [scared]

Yes, but it is very easy to handle for a router so big and powerful.

  i hope so i never new how big they were untill i bought it as my dealership doesn't stock them but i do like the extra bases and the shroud

 

[Forrest Anderson]

Anyone know if the sliding door is available as a replacement part? Not the whole shroud, just the door.

The dust extraction attachment has its own spare parts page in the UK online Festool parts catalogue, but not in the parts catalogue accessed via Festool USA. This could well mean that only the whole assembly (order No 492000) is available in the USA, whereas the sliding door and other bits are available separately in the UK.

Here's the image from the UK catalogue - note how "492000 - Dust-extraction attachment OF 1400 EBQ" is listed as a separate sub-assembly of "491367 - OF 1400 EBQ 230V" in the tree at the left-hand side, and has it's very own exploded parts diagram:

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In summary, the Order No for the sliding door is 473966, but you may not be able to get it in the USA.

Forrest

 

[peter halle]

Fatroman,

The US parts catalog only shows the entire dust shroud assembly.  $17.26 for the parts.

Peter