Precision CS 70 trimming saw

[sancho57]

Thanks for your insight guys. Here is what I was thinking. I was thinking.

1st space is a issue for me or will be when I make the move to the UK.

I was planning on getting a TS 75 and mounting it in the CMS module.

The reason being is I primarily use the TS 55 on almost all of my work.

I use my guide rails and MFTs for just about everything.

But there are times when a larger depth of cut is necessary on thicker hardwoods etc.

So with that in mind this way I can take full advantage of the "system" save space.

Have the connivence of just dropping a module in the CMS for the occasional quick cuts for door stock, face frames , hardwood edging etc.

I was looking hard at the CS 70 but to me If all I need a table mounted saw for is the occasional quick rip, it would be hard to justify the cost and space use of the CS 70.

As Im sure most of you know, I just down sized my shop and got rid of all my stationary tools. I want to go versatile and mobile.

This way with the Router and TS module and say maybe the jig saw module.

With all that being said, I still have to get over there and get my lunch clamps on those tools to be able to make a sound decision.

But this is what Im kicking around right now

 

[vajoiner]

I work out my van doing all types of joinery work from skirtings to exstentions I've had the Elu flip saw for about 15 years and its not let me down but it's so heavy and I only use it for ripping as I have the kapex

Hi, I am a joiner with a small workshop but have been doing a lot of fitted bedrooms and kitchens recently.
Like you I was using a chop saw and a flipover . I wanted something for light ripping and scribing and something cleaner  and lighter than the flipover.

After looking at the options I bought a CS70 in 110v
Same weight as a flipover but much easier to pick up and the legs are integral (one journey)
Very clean, even outside I use it with a CT26 and there is very little dust (a bonus on wet tarmac driveways) I am also happy to use it inside customers houses and garages. [attachimg=#][attachimg=#]
The rise and fall and bevel adjustments are quick and easy to use .

With the vac and saw plugged into a  3.3 kva transformer at some houses (there must be slight variations in power ) the saw doesnt run at full speed when it is first switched on . I have found that if I switch it off and back on quickly it then runs at full speed  .Doing longer rip cuts in softwood or hardwood could really do with a 5 kva transformer .

Martin

 

[L.Alexander]

I've been a proud owner of a CS70EB since April this year. Now I must confess to a problem that came up where it was not squaring up on the table and as such even with the beds set up there was an error and this wasn't primarily the fault of the LA ripping fence, in fact it was a manufacturing error where the front casting face and surface table had been compromised. My saw left last week and is in the safe hands of my guys at Festool who are conducting a full rebuild and replacement of parts, etc. I'll be glad to have her home at last as soon as parts are sorted, etc. I can't honestly thank the gang at festool UK service and repair enough for their amazing support, time over the phone, etc.

Besides this little hickup, I have to say, I truly love this saw. I've used it for dovetailing with jigs, trenching, edging, resawing with the panther blade and so much more and I can't fault it. OK when you buy the entire rig including right and rear beds, sliding rail as the EB package, you do need to take a little time setting up and configuring clearances, distances and the likes of. I couldn't be more poud of this saw and can't wait to have my baby back where she belongs in the machine shop side of my small holding.

What I love about this saw compared to many others is it's true versatility. there are things you can do on this saw that other mobile saws just can't hack, having variable speed for cutting different materials really helps. take as an example, cutting perspex. I've never had a good experience on other saw tables ripping / cross cutting perspex until this saw came into my workshop and life. I use acrylics for certain jobs where glass can be a real pain, cutting and machining on the CS70 really helps and I get a result I can be proud of. there's even the capability when setting the saw at 45 degree with knife down to do fine V grooving on the saw. having a fence that works how I want to really makes a difference and on top of that, turning it into a pull saw for batch work makes a difference, even with smaller parts. Service and maintenance are important with this saw as there is a filter unit next to the motor unit where your dust extraction plumbs in. every so often, unscrew the filter mount and clean it. then reinstall.

Splinter free cutting is a real pleasure because of the anti splinter inserts. the only slight niggle I have is an open gap  where any possible edgings can fall in. With me, I just keep her running smoothly, service the blades using "Shield Technology bit and blade cleaner" which really does make a difference.

The saw is expandable in a good number of ways including upgrading the right hand bed to a folding leg model and adding a 2nd to give more running length from what I'm told (yet to do this upgrade), there is also a much larger  sliding rail unit for large panels (I was considering it but the extra costs were a bit of a put off but I am considering it still). you can convert your CS70 into a sliding chop saw by purchasing rails for left and right side of the saw with length stops so you could actually have this as an all in one if you like that kind of thing.

overall, a mobile, professional saw that packs a punch, cuts like a gem, delivers everything I want from her, etc. Best investment I've made so far. Well... the whole festool spec is the best investment in my working life.

lew

 

[Frank-Jan]

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The saw is expandable in a good number of ways including upgrading the right hand bed to a folding leg model and adding a 2nd to give more running length from what I'm told (yet to do this upgrade), there is also a much larger  sliding rail unit for large panels (I was considering it but the extra costs were a bit of a put off but I am considering it still). you can convert your CS70 into a sliding chop saw by purchasing rails for left and right side of the saw with length stops so you could actually have this as an all in one if you like that kind of thing.
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Hi Lew,

My first CS70 was my second festool purchase (after the atf 55, and before the ct22). I got the basic model with the dustcollection first, then I ordered all the stuff from the setversion, except for the sliding table. (I'm on my second CS70 since about 2 years because the first one got stolen from a jobsite)

I wasn't aware that there existed a table widener with fold-down legs; I think they mean the cms-VL unit, but you cannot connect the original table widener to that from the looks of it.

The trim stops for the kapex are the same as the ones for the CS, (the ones from the Kapex-EB set) and they show up pretty regularly on second-hand sites. (The left and the right versions are the same, when I got my kapex set I had to convert one of the two)

I hope you get your saw back soon.

 

[L.Alexander]

she'll be home this week all being well, then it's a day's work installing, dialing in tables, etc. still I don't mind.

lew

 

[sicd_steve]

Looking for a new bench saw is this the one for me ? I've not heard any reviews please help  [wink]

Hi I have had one for 2 years in my work shop and I have the one with all the bells and whistles cost me $4400 here in Australia and it was my second Festool purchase and I love it, its accurate, quiet, and does everything I need, but too note you can't use a zero clearance plate, nor dado cutting blades.

But I have made alsorts of furniture and it's powerful too, I have ripped 40mm hard Jarrah all day long and it keeps up no worries.

Just a tip as well the saw takes 225mm saw blades but I also use my TS75 blades which are 210mm and they work perfect you just loose a little bit in height but thats only important if you are cutting at the maximum of 70mm anyway. The timber slides through the riffing knife no worries for the 210 blade.

I love the fact you can dial the speed, I can cut timber using Tenyru Blades ( which are extremely quiet ) and I can stiil listen to music over it with no issues

I love my CS70 and it nevers leaves my shop so for me it's a cabinet saw and part of my Festool System and have no issues with it.