Preping Plaster walls after Wallpaper Removal

1chipster said:
Thanks Eric... for the info.  I was a little concerned about  the type of sander to use.  Glad to see you had good results from the RO 150...I don't have one yet...was considering getting the RO 125... a little lighter in weight and easier to handle.  What are people's thoughts on this?  [smile]
Funny enough, I just was at my local dealer past weekend to pick up a new sander. I'm fairly new to Festool, and it's my first Festool sander, so I wanted something pretty allround to start with. (Primary applications for me would be wood and drywall/plaster finishing)

After reading so much positive feedback about the rotex series, I walked in to the shop with my mind set to one.
However, my dealer talked me out of it, by having me hold the rotex 150 in one hand and the ETS EC 150 in the other.
The last one is just so much lighter. And what a comfortable grip! That ETS EC 150 is real joy to hold in your hand. And in my opinion, the only one out of those 2 you could operate with one hand on a vertical surface or ceiling.
You really wouldn't want to hold up a rotex 150 for extended periods of time.

But then again, I'm still awaiting delivery, so I haven't actually done any work with either. I just thought I'd share this brief experience, because this goes to show that you can't just rely on what you read on the web. You really have to hold them in your hand. I know I would have gone for the Rotex otherwise. Absolutely a great sander, but not for what I needed now.
 
ddb said:
1chipster said:
Thanks Eric... for the info.  I was a little concerned about  the type of sander to use.  Glad to see you had good results from the RO 150...I don't have one yet...was considering getting the RO 125... a little lighter in weight and easier to handle.  What are people's thoughts on this?  [smile]
Funny enough, I just was at my local dealer past weekend to pick up a new sander. I'm fairly new to Festool, and it's my first Festool sander, so I wanted something pretty allround to start with. (Primary applications for me would be wood and drywall/plaster finishing)

After reading so much positive feedback about the rotex series, I walked in to the shop with my mind set to one.
However, my dealer talked me out of it, by having me hold the rotex 150 in one hand and the ETS EC 150 in the other.
The last one is just so much lighter. And what a comfortable grip! That ETS EC 150 is real joy to hold in your hand. And in my opinion, the only one out of those 2 you could operate with one hand on a vertical surface or ceiling.
You really wouldn't want to hold up a rotex 150 for extended periods of time.

But then again, I'm still awaiting delivery, so I haven't actually done any work with either. I just thought I'd share this brief experience, because this goes to show that you can't just rely on what you read on the web. You really have to hold them in your hand. I know I would have gone for the Rotex otherwise. Absolutely a great sander, but not for what I needed now.
  Yes, it's been noted here and on other forums that the new EC model is just fantastic for overhead or even wall work when compared to a Rotex of either 125/150mm size.  Even the older ETS model is heavy when you hold the EC for the first time, but lighter than a Rotex. I made due with using my ETS models for wall and ceiling work for years, thought about the Mirka models, then jumped on a EC 150/5 to replace my ETS 150/5 when they came out. 
 
Does anyone know if there is an equivalent to Thistle Bond-It in the US?

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[member=61366]Goz[/member]  Would this work?

I'm not sure if this is the same stuff, but it shares the same name as a product I used to use.  About thirty five years ago there was a crew of plasterers doing a skim coat of plaster all over the interior halls of the old city hall building I worked in.  They trucked in 55 gallon drums of this white stuff called Plaster Weld that smelled like PVA glue and rolled it on before they applied the skim coat.  Worked great and really held up well.  It wasn't available in small sizes then so I found a local supplier who used to package up gallon bottles right from the drum and I always kept some around while working on my own homes.  In addition to rolling it on for a skim coat, you could use it to paint and seal the area around a patch and even mix some in with Durabond 90 for repairs.  Unfortunately, the supplier went out of business and I used up all that I had left.

Mike A. 
 
@mike_aa  Maybe?  I am in the process of removing wallpaper and skim coating my entire house. However, I've been using joint compound, as it's drywall, not plaster.  The idea of eliminating some of the scraping and washing is appealing, but since I'm not using plaster as the top coat, a bonding agent may not help me after all. I'll reach out to Larsen and see what they recommend.  Thanks!
 
[member=61366]Goz[/member] 

FWIW, The plaster weld I used worked well with joint compound and I even mixed it right in when mixing a batch of Durabond 90 compound.  In fact, Durabond and joint compound are pretty much all I used with it. 

You are right about contacting Larsen direct, since I'm not sure if the product is still the same as what I had.  Please let us know what you find out.

Thanks, Mike A.
 
Here's the official response from Larsen:
"Plaster-Weld has been used successfully to bond a variety of gypsum based veneer skim coats. I would advise doing a small test sample before beginning the entire  project.

Best regards,
Larsen Products Corp."


I will pick up a can and test it out. It probably won't be real soon, but I do have a few skim coating projects slated this winter. 

David
 
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