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[Deansocial]

Here you go Michael Kellough

Picture of how I did it.

yes but how did you line the bevel bit? Lots of segments?

That's what I'm guessing all those ribs are for. A long flexible knife will feather the mud into the valleys.
If you could figure out the arcs for laying in long pieces of wallboard you wouldn't need half as many ribs
but you'd consume a full sheet of wallboard vs less than half.

No mud would be used, it would be plastered with gypsum plaster

 

[woodguy7]

;D  [thumbs up]

 

[jmbfestool]

Sorry!

I didn't know it was full wondered why I hadn't received any messages lately.

 

[jimbouk]

JMB, could you tell me a bit more about the arches, you mentioned they and the cabinets were sprayed on site? did you do it mate and if so what were you using.

Cheers.

Great work btw  ;D

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB, could you tell me a bit more about the arches, you mentioned they and the cabinets were sprayed on site? did you do it mate and if so what were you using.

Cheers.

Great work btw  ;D

Yeah I sprayed them with the paint which was on the job I don't normally spray. It's just that the client asked me.  I only did the undercoat.

The arches wa would u like to know about them???

 

[jimbouk]

JMB, could you tell me a bit more about the arches, you mentioned they and the cabinets were sprayed on site? did you do it mate and if so what were you using.

Cheers.

Great work btw  ;D

Yeah I sprayed them with the paint which was on the job I don't normally spray. It's just that the client asked me.  I only did the undercoat.

The arches wa would u like to know about them???

Was wondering if you used and hvlp or normal compressor and if you used AC/PU paint or if it was water based. I might have to do an on site spray job on and attic unit and am trying to work out the best way and if i even want to!

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB, could you tell me a bit more about the arches, you mentioned they and the cabinets were sprayed on site? did you do it mate and if so what were you using.

Cheers.

Great work btw  ;D

Yeah I sprayed them with the paint which was on the job I don't normally spray. It's just that the client asked me.  I only did the undercoat.

The arches wa would u like to know about them???

Was wondering if you used and hvlp or normal compressor and if you used AC/PU paint or if it was water based. I might have to do an on site spray job on and attic unit and am trying to work out the best way and if i even want to!

I didnt spray the main arches the client painted them from scratch ( not very good)   I sprayed the units, small arches undercoat only

Well I used emulsion at first  which was recommended by windmill man here on FOG.  At first I thought it was good cus one spray and then a sand got it smooth plus it gave it a undercoat. Instead of using pva which would only seal it.

But I found using emulsion is not that good for durability and didnt seal it fully on first coat so required a sand and then second coat and sand.

A unit which was painted with a few coats by hand by the client after I put emulsion on would chip more easily but when it chipped off it chipped off right back down to the MDF like the emulsion didnt stick.

Also another thing bad about emulsion because its water base your MDF will bend if you just spray one side of the MDF you have to spray both sides to keep your MDF stable.

So I decided to use oil base undercoat paint which is loads better! I was able to get the MDF alot smoother once I sanded it in just one coat and is a lot more durable.

I wish I never used the emulsion bad idea get the feeling some one was having a laugh.

I used a portable hvlp cus it was only to get the undercoat on quick and evenly for me to sand smooth ready for the client.
For the client to do a poor job at filling and painting[crying]

I don't normally spray for clients but it is something I want to get into just learning curve! I ain't no professional in this!

 

[jimbouk]

JMB, could you tell me a bit more about the arches, you mentioned they and the cabinets were sprayed on site? did you do it mate and if so what were you using.

Cheers.

Great work btw  ;D

Yeah I sprayed them with the paint which was on the job I don't normally spray. It's just that the client asked me.  I only did the undercoat.

The arches wa would u like to know about them???

Was wondering if you used and hvlp or normal compressor and if you used AC/PU paint or if it was water based. I might have to do an on site spray job on and attic unit and am trying to work out the best way and if i even want to!

I didnt spray the arches the client painted them from scratch ( not very good)   I sprayed the units undercoat only

Well I used emulsion at first  which was recommended by windmill man here on FOG.  At first I thought it was good cus one spray and then a sand got it smooth plus it gave it a undercoat. Instead of using pva which would only seal it.

But I found using emulsion is not that good for durability and didnt seal it fully on first coat so required a sand and then second coat and sand.

A unit which was painted with a few coats by hand by the client after I put emulsion on would chip more easily but when it chipped off it chipped off right back down to the MDF like the emulsion didnt stick.

Also another thing bad about emulsion because its water base your MDF will bend if you just spray one side of the MDF you have to spray both sides to keep your MDF stable.

So I decided to use oil base undercoat paint which is loads better! I was able to get the MDF alot smoother once I sanded it in just one coat and is a lot more durable.

I wish I never used the emulsion bad idea get the feeling some one was having a laugh.

I used a portable hvlp cus it was only to get the undercoat on quick and evenly for me to sand smooth ready for the client.
For the client to do a poor job at filling and painting[crying]

I don't normally spray for clients but it is something I want to get into just learning curve! I ain't no professional in this!

Nice one cheers. I would never spray emulsion onto mdf, think you got stitched up there mate

I was wondering as we have sprayed acid cat once before but it stinks and that was a building site and this is a lived in house so it's a no go. Unfortunately it's just not possible to do this one in the spray shop.

 

[woodguy7]

I have put emulsion onto mdf as a primer before.  I didn't spray it, i rolled it with a 100mm foam roller.  It gave me good results with an oil paint on top !  Maybe spraying is different.  I sanded all the mdf with 120 grit to take the shininess away from it & give the paint something to grip to.
I don't think Windmill Man was trying to stitch you up.

 

[mattfc]

Dulux trade do a decent water based MDF primer that is designed for spraying, I had no problems with using a Fuji Q4, you need to water it down a little, then what worked for me was lots of light mist coats in pretty quick succession, e.g. by the time I had finished going from once side to the other, it was dry enough for me to start again. I did about 5 lights coats in succession, then waited a couple of hours and did the same, ended up with a good solid base coat of primer, then sprayed Dulux trade diamond satinwood.

this was the end result

 

[jimbouk]

Dulux trade do a decent water based MDF primer that is designed for spraying, I had no problems with using a Fuji Q4, you need to water it down a little, then what worked for me was lots of light mist coats in pretty quick succession, e.g. by the time I had finished going from once side to the other, it was dry enough for me to start again. I did about 5 lights coats in succession, then waited a couple of hours and did the same, ended up with a good solid base coat of primer, then sprayed Dulux trade diamond satinwood.

this was the end result

Thanks for that Matt, I'm going to try that out I think. Thanks for the info and nice unit mate!

 

[tiralie]

JMB:
Those arches, and all the work look really good.

Well I used emulsion at first  which was recommended by windmill man here on FOG.  At first I thought it was good cus one spray and then a sand got it smooth plus it gave it a undercoat. Instead of using pva which would only seal it.

Interesting. I don't know what emulsion is maybe it goes by a different name here. What's the chemistry of emulsion? What does it contain?

A unit which was painted with a few coats by hand by the client after I put emulsion on would chip more easily but when it chipped off it chipped off right back down to the MDF like the emulsion didnt stick.

Interesting, I am curious what kind of paint (solvent based or water borne) did the client use to paint the arches?

So I decided to use oil base undercoat paint which is loads better! I was able to get the MDF alot smoother once I sanded it in just one coat and is a lot more durable.

Was this after you used the emulsion on the same arch or a different arch? How do you know the chipping wasn't on an arch that you used the oil base undercoat?

Tim

 

[jmbfestool]

I have put emulsion onto mdf as a primer before.  I didn't spray it, i rolled it with a 100mm foam roller.  It gave me good results with an oil paint on top !  Maybe spraying is different.  I sanded all the mdf with 120 grit to take the shininess away from it & give the paint something to grip to.
I don't think Windmill Man was trying to stitch you up.

Yeah but it's not the first time he's taken the ..... out of me is it.

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB:
Those arches, and all the work look really good.

Well I used emulsion at first  which was recommended by windmill man here on FOG.  At first I thought it was good cus one spray and then a sand got it smooth plus it gave it a undercoat. Instead of using pva which would only seal it.

Interesting. I don't know what emulsion is maybe it goes by a different name here. What's the chemistry of emulsion? What does it contain?

A unit which was painted with a few coats by hand by the client after I put emulsion on would chip more easily but when it chipped off it chipped off right back down to the MDF like the emulsion didnt stick.

Interesting, I am curious what kind of paint (solvent based or water borne) did the client use to paint the arches?

So I decided to use oil base undercoat paint which is loads better! I was able to get the MDF alot smoother once I sanded it in just one coat and is a lot more durable.

Was this after you used the emulsion on the same arch or a different arch? How do you know the chipping wasn't on an arch that you used the oil base undercoat?

Tim

All I know is emulsion contains water and is mostly used for painting walls and ceilings

The client used a acrylic paint which they really slapped on. I tried to sand it back for them but it just clogs up my Rotex sand paper very quickly.  It looks fine but they have two LED lights shinning up the arch and when u turn them on you see the poor runny painting and filling by the client.

 

[Deansocial]

The emulsion would have been vinyl matt more than likely.  The paint on arches would have been farrow and ball, little greene or fired earth i think

 

[jmbfestool]

The emulsion would have been vinyl matt more than likely.  The paint on arches would have been farrow and ball, little greene or fired earth i think

Little Green as final coat but dont know wa the client used as undercoat on the main arches though.

 

[jmbfestool]

Some pictures of the things I sprayed undercoat with Emulsion.   The small arches I sprayed in wardrobe area but like I said not the main arches with the LED lights.

Ill take some pictures of the Units I made where I used Oil base.

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[Deansocial]

Firm i sub to always use aluminium primer

 

[jmbfestool]

Firm i sub to always use aluminium primer

On MDF?

 

[Deansocial]

Yeah why