Question for TS75 owners (or those that own the 75 and 55 saws...)

Julian Tracy

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I currently have the TS55 saw with (3) 55" rails and (1) 42" rail.  I have an opportunity to trade up to  the TS75 saw and a 75" rail for basically a cost of $100.  (That, and I trade in my TS55...)

The TS75 saw is brand new, guy just wants the smaller saw.

So for the larger saw owners, or those that have both saws - would you do that?  Have just the 75 saw as your only model?

Heavier, blades cost more, larger, but - a full 2 3/4" inch depth capacity as well.  That, and being able to switch one of my 55" rails for a 75" would be a huge advantage as well.

What do you think?

Julian
 
I have the 55 & am more than happy with it.  I don't need the extra depth of cut so am happier with the smaller lighter 55.  Love that saw  [big grin]

Woodguy.
 
I own the 75 and have used 55 in class. The ONLY reason I have the 75 is for the 2" walnut, poplar, oak and various woods I cut (e.g., for end-grain butcher block boards). If you don't need the depth, I wouldn't trade.

Another advantage of the 55 is that it has an optional dust guard that makes a really big difference. They don't have one available for the 75.
 
Julian Tracy said:
I currently have the TS55 saw with (3) 55" rails and (1) 42" rail.  I have an opportunity to trade up to the TS75 saw and a 75" rail for basically a cost of $100.  (That, and I trade in my TS55...)

The TS75 saw is brand new, guy just wants the smaller saw.

So for the larger saw owners, or those that have both saws - would you do that?  Have just the 75 saw as your only model?

Heavier, blades cost more, larger, but - a full 2 3/4" inch depth capacity as well.  That, and being able to switch one of my 55" rails for a 75" would be a huge advantage as well.

What do you think?

Julian
the ts 75 is a much better tool do to the limitations of a 55 i have two aft65 and ts75 both are great
 
I do own 2 TS55 and 1 TS75. I added the TS75 and my newer TS55 after I already owned many guide rails. Consequently I made sure the other two saws were adjusted the same as my older TS55 with respect to the splinter guard.

The only downsides I see to the TS75 are:

There is no optional dust guard, so dust extraction is not quite as effective as with the TS55 with the guard.

The TS75 is heavier enough I notice that when I need to make a lot of cuts in a short time.

The TS75 has a longer sole plate, so the FS1400 (55") rail is not quite enough for a 48" cut. Same for the FS2700 rail for 8' cuts. You will need the 75" rail as well as the FS3000. My experience is that even 2 coupled FS1400 are not long enough for an 8' cut using the TS75.

On the plus side:

The TS75 is more powerful, so I can push it slightly faster.

The larger blade on the TS75 costs more to buy new, but resharpening is about the same price. My experience has been the larger blade stays sharp longer, so the cost per cut foot is about the same.

For the OP the problem I could see is that if for some reason the near new TS75 has the inner side of its blade further away from the rail than did your old TS55, you will need to replace the splinter guards on the existing rails you will be keeping. However, if the TS75 has its inner side of the blade closer to the rail all you need do is run it with the existing rails. That will perfect the trim.
 
I owned and AFT 55 and upgraded to a TS 75 three years ago.  There were lots of reasons to upgrade to the new generation of plunge saws that are not relevent in your case.  What is relevent is that I have often taken advantage of the greater depth and the fact that the increased weight and size of the TS 75 has never bothered me at all.
 
David said:
I own the 75 and have used 55 in class. The ONLY reason I have the 75 is for the 2" walnut, poplar, oak and various woods I cut (e.g., for end-grain butcher block boards). If you don't need the depth, I wouldn't trade.

Another advantage of the 55 is that it has an optional dust guard that makes a really big difference. They don't have one available for the 75.
i use a piece of plam cut to fit and tape on like a flap it works great [big grin]
 
I have the TS55 and until last week I have been 100% satisfied with it. Perfect cuts, easy to handle and light. But I am currently making a picture frame out of 6/4 cherry and the TS55 is bogging down a little. It can handle the depth no problem but it can be a little slow going in parts, especially if there is a knot to cut through. Since my saw never leaves the workshop, weight is not an issue.

In hindsight I would have bought the TS75.

 
If you do not NEED the added depth of cut keep the TS55. I have the TS75 and hate that I do. Don't get me wrong, I love the saw. It is just that in the 3 years that I have had it, I have used it at max. depth only a handful of times thus not making it worth the extra weight
 
I have the TS75 and am very happy with it.  Part of my decision was based on long ago discussions with Frank Pellow (above poster).  I already have 3 traditional non-Festool saws, so depth of cut was a plus for me, although I had no specific task in mind/foreseable, other than stack cutting 3/4 ply.  I use my saw strictly in my workshop with the exception of the occasional NEED for it in my yard for outdoor projects.

A feature that actually weighed/swayed me further was the Slip Clutch, which helps minimize the risk of kickback and minimizes wear on the blade, gear case, and motor.  This is not inherent in the TS55.

In regards to motor cover, I found that after having acquired a 36mm hose, that issue was negligeable at worst.  I actually wasn't bothered using the 27mm hose at all, and found it quite acceptible.  Recently I did a set of repeated exact same cuts.  Swaped the different hoses between cuts just to see the difference.  There was a noticeable difference imo, so I am now more inclined to use the 36mm, although I won't hesitate to keep the 27mm on if I can't be bothered or am in a hurry.  They both work, no additional fittings required, just swap hoses from tool/CT direct.

I was going to buy a refurbished TS55 a few months ago, until I got my head wrapped around the issue of the splinter guard to saw blade issue.  Instead, I passed on the used TS55, I opted instead to get the host of same kerf blades for my TS75 that I did not have that were on sale at 10% off, and before the HST upped the tax by a further 8% from Dan Clermont in BC at Ultimate Tools back in June.  Even though I'm not sure I will ever/need some of those speciality blades.  

One of the reasons I had contemplated getting the TS55, was the lighter weight.  Although I have no real weight issue with the saw, I've yet to really use it for a series of repeated quick cuts, in an amount that I would tire setting/removing the saw in use.  If you contemplate that this may be a factor for you regularly, I would probably recommend you stick with the TS55.  Apparently, one of the primary reason people return their TS75's in the 30 day money back period and opt for the TS55 is the size/weight issue.  A relatively new Festool retailer in Toronto I visited a few months back mentioned also that he sells one TS75 for every 15-20 TS55's.  I wonder if other retailers experience the same/similar results, or is that just a reflection of how he and his staff are trained that pre-disposes the sales to skew to those results?  Curiously enough, at the time of my visit, he only had the TS55 on display in his cramped 55 year old downtown shop that caters largely to Bay St types (Bay St. being Canada's Wall St.)

I'm surprised no one has suggested for you to get the TS75, and try it out for a month.  If you don't like it, return it.  Unlike most retailers/manufacturers, I honestly believe Festool really doesn't mind.  They quite fervently push this avenue as a marketing advantage/tool, as opposed to other similar statements from other retailers/manufacturers where when you go to return it, they sometimes make you feel like they were "just kidding" in a sense about it in the first place, and you are causing an excruciating exercise in spinal bending towards the rear, causing unbelieveable effort on their part, bringing them to the brink of bankruptcy.  My own TS75 was a refurb, although you never would have known it.  It was in mint/pristine condition when I got it, and I saved 10 or 15% (can't remember exactly how much).

In regards to rail selection, mine is listed in my signature, and I am quite happy.  As was previously mentioned, the 75in, and the 3000mm rail are the ones to have versus the 2700mm rail.

Good luck.  I think it's a tough decision for many, and for each person, I believe that the choice is unique to you.  This is one of those situations I believe, that even if you had 50 folks saying "stick with the TS55" versus one that would vote for the TS75, you may be, for your reasons alone, the second in that bunch that the TS75 is just right FOR YOU.
 
I had the TS55 and traded it in with the 30 day warantee .  It would bog and heat up while ripping oak, cherry and maple, granted I did not have the Panther blade in it.
Got the TS75 with the Panther blade and never had an issue.
For $100 I will take a more powerful motor, bigger sole plate, larger depth and the 20" longer track.  Yes, it's heavier, but not everything can be easy [big grin]
As the saying for car/truck motors goes... "there is no replacement for displacement".
I know that I have the most powerful TS and I never have to wonder if I should have upgraded. [2cents]
 
tjbier said:
I had the TS55 and traded it in with the 30 day warantee .  It would bog and heat up while ripping oak, cherry and maple, granted I did not have the Panther blade in it.
Got the TS75 with the Panther blade and never had an issue.
For $100 I will take a more powerful motor, bigger sole plate, larger depth and the 20" longer track.  Yes, it's heavier, but not everything can be easy [big grin]
As the saying for car/truck motors goes... "there is no replacement for displacement".
I know that I have the most powerful TS and I never have to wonder if I should have upgraded. [2cents]
I made exactly the same decision as you - tried the TS55 and it was fine, but was worried about wanting more in the future so traded it in on the TS75.  Dust collection isn't as good on the TS75, but more power and a larger blade that has more angle capacity were more important to me than the weight of the saw.  I have other circ saws if I need to cut over my head for some reason - this one stays in the shop on the ground and a few extra lbs doesn't make any difference to me.
 
since these threads are read for long periods of time.... no reason to stop responding.

Some great advise above...thx for the tip on the 36mm hose... I never thought it would make that big of a difference...

I will attest the 75 is much harder on the tracks when the saw is off the work pieces...if wieght is an issue, its in places like this... which when possible, I learn to mount some blocks under the track. 

In addition to cutting harder woods with less strain and heat, I also cut more sheets with the 75...and considering all the time is wasted with set-up, it's a time saver.   

I am surprised Festool does not have a thorough list of reasons to buy one vs. the other, as these threads offer.  For prospective buyers, its hard to find all this information.  I used Festools for quite a few years, and just recently joined this forum. 

 
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