Roof and facia boards etc

the scews are good. expensive but good. Like on this roof we had to put rafters in to set up where the dormers were then remove them later.

Not sure i would say the cut was fun brett but it was a head scratcher.

Still got all the ladder frames to finish yet but the bricklayer forgot to leave out for them even after i told him just as he started it!!!
 
Deansocial said:
the scews are good. expensive but good. Like on this roof we had to put rafters in to set up where the dormers were then remove them later.

Not sure i would say the cut was fun brett but it was a head scratcher.

Still got all the ladder frames to finish yet but the bricklayer forgot to leave out for them even after i told him just as he started it!!!

Well get it bloody done!!!!  I need joiners!!!

JMB
 
Kev said:
Deansocial said:

These look awesome. I'm not in the timber construction space - so I'm not sure if this sort of thing is available in Oz, but I haven't seen them about!

A quick google locally - not much at all  [sad]

I use Heco ones which are the same as the euro ones Dean uses!

Here is some evidence to how strong and well they hold!  I love them I wont use anything else!  They are apparently equal to a 10mm bolts so for strapping roofs you can stick two of them in in seconds and it will be stronger than sticking one bolt through  which takes much longer to do.

Here is something I have been working on to day!  A little Log shed for my parents!  Nothing fancy they dont want anything fancy for the log storage  [sad]

You can see in this first picture  I have 1 Heco screw 160mm long    and I have a small 100m screw I use to just pull the two rafters together first and then use a Heco into the ridge beam.  Normally I would stick 2 Heco screws in but its just a little shed roof and Heco screws are not cheap!
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Here you can see me sitting on the  UNSUPPORTED wall plate which is ONLY held up by the rafters  which are only attached at the top which you can see from the first picture
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JMB
 
Alan m said:
and to think , he is still wearing those dirty trousers.

haahaa lol

I got 4 pairs they all look the same!  I have 4 new pairs coming this week with 4  pelts and new 4 pairs of knee pads!  soo ill look all clean again  [big grin]
 
jmbfestool said:
Alan m said:
and to think , he is still wearing those dirty trousers.

haahaa lol

I got 4 pairs they all look the same!  I have 4 new pairs coming this week with 4  pelts and new 4 pairs of knee pads!  soo ill look all clean again  [big grin]
for a week
 
Lol a sorry but that magnetic belts is so funny , have you read the list of things you can't do or go near lol [eek]
 
Hi. Just wondered if you used clear tanalised timber for the the roof members? some of the rafters look like planed timbers and not regularised or rough sawn. Or are you going to get them spray treated before they batten and felt the roof? cut roofing is the dogs b@&&@x!! seems the weather was kind to you too. Makes the neighbours house look like a bike shed lol
 
Wooden Lungs said:
Hi. Just wondered if you used clear tanalised timber for the the roof members? some of the rafters look like planed timbers and not regularised or rough sawn. Or are you going to get them spray treated before they batten and felt the roof? cut roofing is the dogs b@&&@x!! seems the weather was kind to you too. Makes the neighbours house look like a bike shed lol

That's a new on me but as far as I know you don't use tanalised timber for roofing only for your laths.   Your roofing timber should never get exposed to the weather so why is their a need for them to be tanalised?  

Jmb
 
Ok... this may seem harsh but I would never cut a roof in the UK using untreated timbers.

Reason?    very simple,  the untreated rafters and roof members will have a short lifespan in comparison to treated timbers.
Bare minimum would be to install the wallplate using treated timber. I also sit my wallplates on DPC and then bed them in mortar. Years ago natural slate was used with the old lime mortar.

Wallplates if not sat on DPC will rot and decay first.

If you were to ask an Architect they would say use treated but Building control would give you the option not too (Then again they pass modern trusses!).

I have lots of experience with cut roofing and I do not claim to be an expert! but...I would strongly suggest treated timbers for cut roofing.
Some would argue about breathable felt being used would eradicate the problem of condensation etc but it does'nt solve it entirely. You could use untreated and spray them after with something like clear protim or just use tanalised form the start. Obviously C16 and C24 timbers depending on spans etc.
I suppose everyone has there own opinion on it,  but in this part of the world we have a very damp climate and it takes it toll on timber whether its exposed to the elements or not.
So if you want your cut roof to be around for the lifespan of the house its sat on TREAT IT!
 
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