Sander for tight area--DX93 dimensions?

[Phred]

I am preparing to refinish our kitchen floor and need to reach underneath the cabinets on a central island.  The floor extends 4" beyond the outside edge of the cabinets and there is only 4" of vertical clearance.  There's no way my ETS 150/3 will reach under there.  I've looked on various websites and searched the board but haven't been able to find the dimensions of the DX93.  Could someone measure:
a)  how tall the DX93 is (I am assuming it's more than 4")
b)  how far the triangular pad extends to reach into a tight corner (I'm assuming it's less than 4")

Alternatively, are there any other ideas (beyond hand sanding)?  Since it's the kitchen in an occupied house, good dust collection is pretty important!

Thanks in advance,
Fred

 

[Toolpig]

I used it the other day for just that purpose (under cabinet toekick space) and it fit in there just fine.  Perfect sander for the job.  Get some coarse-grit paper and it's a very aggressive sander.

TP

I am preparing to refinish our kitchen floor and need to reach underneath the cabinets on a central island.  The floor extends 4" beyond the outside edge of the cabinets and there is only 4" of vertical clearance.  There's no way my ETS 150/3 will reach under there.  I've looked on various websites and searched the board but haven't been able to find the dimensions of the DX93.  Could someone measure:
a)  how tall the DX93 is (I am assuming it's more than 4")
b)  how far the triangular pad extends to reach into a tight corner (I'm assuming it's less than 4")

Alternatively, are there any other ideas (beyond hand sanding)?  Since it's the kitchen in an occupied house, good dust collection is pretty important!

Thanks in advance,
Fred

 

[Phred]

TP:

Thanks for the info!  From the photos I was afraid it wouldn't fit.  Time to place another order.

Thanks again,
Fred

 

[Tech]

Fred.
The Actual height of the DX 93 is about 4-1/2" but there is a small curve.  The "nose" sticks out 1-1/2". Toe kicks are commonly 3 x 4" and you'll a have a bit of an issue reaching all the way in. The slat attachment 488036 (included) will get you to about 3" reach.

 

[Phred]

Hi Darin:

Thanks for the additional information.  Just to be clear, I am under the impression (from ToolPig's post athttp://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=941.0) that you lose all dust collection with the slat attachment.  Can you confirm that?  If so, it's a bit of a problem as I'm trying to minimize dust.  I know I can just put the hose from my CT22 next to the sander to try to pick up as much as possible, but I've been spoiled by the factory system!

Appreciatively,
Fred

 

[Toolpig]

Actually -- somebody recently corrected me (offline) after I said that there's no dust collection with the slat attachment.  This person told me that there are "grooves" routed in the slat that take the dust back to where the holes are.  Haven't tried it myself, but it makes sense. 

TP

Hi Darin:

Thanks for the additional information.  Just to be clear, I am under the impression (from ToolPig's post athttp://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=941.0) that you lose all dust collection with the slat attachment.  Can you confirm that?  If so, it's a bit of a problem as I'm trying to minimize dust.  I know I can just put the hose from my CT22 next to the sander to try to pick up as much as possible, but I've been spoiled by the factory system!

Appreciatively,
Fred

 

[Phred]

ToolPig:

Thanks for clarifying!
Fred

 

[Warrior]

How about a sharp scraper and some elbow grease? 30 min.s Done.

 

[Phred]

How about a sharp scraper and some elbow grease? 30 min.s Done.

I may still go the way you suggest, but asked the question based on:
a)  the total area of tight corners as well as toekicks, together with the condition of the floor, makes it more like several hours
b)  I have other uses for the DX93 (this would help justify the purchase, tho)

But thanks for the reminder and voice of reason 

Fred

 

[Warrior]

It'l be a good work out. Plus your waste is shavings (not dust) and calories. hehe

Eiji

 

[Michael Kellough]

Using the wide slat sanding pads for the LS 130 is another option but even then you can't get all the way into an inside corner. However, you can make your own addition to the slat pad to make it into the corner. Dust control will obviously be diminished but the fine stuff that floats will be sucked up and the heavy stuff will just lay there till you vacuum it up.

 

[Phred]

Michael:

Thanks for suggesting this option--that is one sander I hadn't really looked at, but it looks pretty versatile!  I'm going to do some more research.

Fred

 

[Llap Goch]

Fred

At the risk of being pulled naked through a thornbush for recommending a sander other than a Festool may I suggest you have a look at the Fein Multimaster. The link ishttp://www.feinus.com.

Now this is a tool so good that I am convinced that if you scraped away the orange paint you would reveal a black and green undercoat and the faint outline of Fes  or ool.

It is 31/2 inches high so would fit under your cabinets, has excellent dust extraction (connects superbly to my CT Mini) with perforated grit triangles and has very low vibration. Plus it can saw, scrape, sand profiles and even makes a fine cup of tea ( not Liptons and not iced).

I first came across it when I had a plaster cast removed from my ankle after a particularly heavy para drop and the doctor cut the cast off with the Fein fitted with a semi circular sawblade. He was able to hold it steady and did not cut me at all. Mind you in such situations I do find that gently grabbing the Doctors/Dentists dangly bits helps concentrate their desire not to inflict injury on their patient. ;D  It is a superbly flexible tool and is on a par with Festool for engineering excellence and quality.

I will now go and give myself a severe bollocking for suggesting such heresy but the Fein, along with Festool, is one of the very few tools that I would recommend (knowing as I do that I live thousands of miles away from you and you can't pop round and give me a thick ear for recommending a lemon).

Regards
Pat and the Llad

 

[Bob Childress]

At the risk of being pulled naked through a thornbush for recommending a sander other than a Festool may I suggest you have a look at the Fein Multimaster. The link ishttp://www.feinus.com.

I will now go and give myself a severe bollocking for suggesting such heresy but the Fein, along with Festool, is one of the very few tools that I would recommend (knowing as I do that I live thousands of miles away from you and you can't pop round and give me a thick ear for recommending a lemon).

Regards
Pat and the Llad

Now Pat, the idea of you being dragged naked through the gorse is, um, er, interesting but I don't think it will come to that.  ;D  (Down Simou, that's a good lad.)

I have read and heard great things about the Multimaster and for certain applications I think it might be the go, even the one addressed in this thread. But keep in mind that whilst the DX93 is a true ROS, the Multimaster simply swings back and forth (that's why it cuts so well), so for actual finish sanding I think it might leave more marks than one might find acceptable. Just my 2 bob's worth. 

[And why does Welsh have so many "L"s in it and so few vowels?]

 

[bruegf]

My father has a Fein multimaster and he is extremely satisfied w/ how well it sands and has never had a complaint about it leaving sanding marks.  Of course his skill level far exceeds my own.....

Fred

 

[Phred]

Llap, Bob, and Fred:

Thanks for the suggestion and thoughts on the Fein.  More research to do on my part--although I've heard of the Multimaster I've yet to see or play with one.  The size and versatility sound great!  The toekicks will be somewhat hidden, but there are other exposed tight corners where scratches would be apparent.  (Ah, the wonders of limitless choice from modern technology!)

(knowing as I do that I live thousands of miles away from you and you can't pop round and give me a thick ear for recommending a lemon).

Careful now, Llap, my eldest daughter starts school outside Cargill in September--if I'm really disappointed I just may have to track you down! 
(More likely, it'll be just to buy a couple of rounds in thanks!)

Cheers to all,
Phred

 

[Dan Uhlir]

I like the idea of the linear sander with the wide attachment, however, i was thinking the long attachment may work better. The ls 130 is considered a shop essential by some  members of the group, due to it's linear motion and also it's versatility in precisely these situations.The dx 93 i suppose could also be considered a shop essential, decisions decisions, personally a corner under a cabinet elbow grease is efficient and inexpensive keep the vac handy for dust extraction. peace dan

 

[Llap Goch]

Phred/Fred

I am thredders at this thread
is it Fred or is it Phred ;D

To the both of you

The Fein oscillates at an angle of only 3.2? at up to 21,000 OPM and, when fitted with a 400 grit sanding triangle, leaves a really lovely finish sans swirls. If you can get to a demo you will be amazed at how good this little piece of Vorchsprung Durch Technik is. Make sure you have your pump-action Visa Card with you with the safety lever switched to off.

Now I wouldn't sand an entire table top with it but for getting into difficult places it is the bees knees.

Plus imagine if you will.

You are walking, minding your own business, when suddenly a beautiful maiden clumps up towards you. Clumps because that is the sound of her plastercast leg catching the weathered boards of the sidewalk.

" Sir!" she cries, "do you happen to have a Fein Multimaster fitted with the Diamond segmented saw blade part number 6 35 02 114 01 7 about your person?"

" Gadzooks Madam I do!"

" Sir, would you be so kind as to remove this worrisome plastercast for me which, as you can see, goes all the way from my toes to my........"

"Madam, it will be an honour!"

Now I ask you, who will give a fig about swirls when you are on such a mission of mercy?

Just off for a cold shower...............

 

[Brice Burrell]

Plus imagine if you will.

You are walking, minding your own business, when suddenly a beautiful maiden clumps up towards you. Clumps because that is the sound of her plastercast leg catching the weathered boards of the sidewalk.

" Sir!" she cries, "do you happen to have a Fein Multimaster fitted with the Diamond segmented saw blade part number 6 35 02 114 01 7 about your person?"

  Holy crap! I've only been carrying with me the Fein, 2 1/2-Inch E-Cut Standard Saw Blades part#63502134025. Thanks Pat, don't know what we would do with out your help. 

  Really, the Fein Multimaster is a great tool, just got around to buying one a few months ago after borrowing one for years.

 

[Llap Goch]

"Holy crap! I've only been carrying with me the Fein, 2 1/2-Inch E-Cut Standard Saw Blades part#63502134025. Thanks Pat, don't know what we would do with out your help."

Brice it is a comfort to know that I can be of help. ;D

For years I carried a Boy Scout penknife with the thingy attachment for getting stones out of horses hooves. Never used it.

Then, on the first day I carried my Fein Multimaster fitted with the Diamond segmented saw blade part # 63502 114017, out pops the maiden in distress!

Its just your badluck that you only had the Standard Saw Blade part#63502134025 fitted. Bummer, but surely you remember that "Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend."

Regrads from a very sunny Wales