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The top of the SawStop line is the Industrial model. I own one and it is an amazing machine.
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No other cabinet saws can match the SawStop in dust collection (when both the dust shroud and 4" dust port are used properly). Unless I am making edge cuts, I don't need a dust mask, not even when ripping MDF.
This morning, I edge-ripped/jointed walnut and spruce with the WWII 30-T. Day and night compared to the WWII 40-T when ripping the walnut.
This morning, I edge-ripped/jointed walnut and spruce with the WWII 30-T. Day and night compared to the WWII 40-T when ripping the walnut.
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[member=15289]Birdhunter[/member] and [member=57948]ChuckM[/member] You chaps are so lucky. We have a couple of decent saws, and they’ve served us well. I’d buy a Saw Stop in a heartbeat though.
I believe my friends saw is the industrial, how smooth are they! [thumbs up]
I believe my friends saw is the industrial, how smooth are they! [thumbs up]
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I run a Forrest blade on my Industrial SawStop and there is absolutely no vibration. Mine is a 52” 3HP model. There are 5hp and 7.5hp models. I cut some thick hardwoods and have never heard the saw slow down.
Even without the safety feature, I’d buy the saw. It is an amazing saw.
Even without the safety feature, I’d buy the saw. It is an amazing saw.
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I don’t think naming the store will help,Peter_C said:
but what a great thread this has been. A true wealth of information .
Thanks everyone for the help and comments ,
Keep em coming.
Thanks again,Charlie
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Coming in a bit late on this but I have a couple comments.
I have a 1.75hp PCS. I think the motor is about the same, maybe exactly the same as the jobsite saw. I have had it trip once due to getting too hot. I was cutting 1 inch oak (a stair tread I was recycling) and the wood was pinching the blade on the back side because the splitter is too small IMHO for a full kerf blade. I was using a 50 tooth Infinity all around blade (40 ATB, 10 rakers). The splitter thickness is the same as the center of the blade (2.3mm or about 0.090 inch). I would like to have a .1 inch riving knife but haven't found a source.
That doesn't sound like the OP's issue, however.
I also have a 24 tooth Infinity ripping blade and a Freud 24 tooth ripping blade. Either would have been better suited to what I was doing. But the 50 tooth should have been able to handle 1 inch oak. And it did except for that piece.
Underpowered saws can be a bit touchy. Under powered seems to be anything less than 3hp. But with everything right, I have made a lot of sawdust with 15A table saws. Including 3+ inch rips in hardwood.
I have a 1.75hp PCS. I think the motor is about the same, maybe exactly the same as the jobsite saw. I have had it trip once due to getting too hot. I was cutting 1 inch oak (a stair tread I was recycling) and the wood was pinching the blade on the back side because the splitter is too small IMHO for a full kerf blade. I was using a 50 tooth Infinity all around blade (40 ATB, 10 rakers). The splitter thickness is the same as the center of the blade (2.3mm or about 0.090 inch). I would like to have a .1 inch riving knife but haven't found a source.
That doesn't sound like the OP's issue, however.
I also have a 24 tooth Infinity ripping blade and a Freud 24 tooth ripping blade. Either would have been better suited to what I was doing. But the 50 tooth should have been able to handle 1 inch oak. And it did except for that piece.
Underpowered saws can be a bit touchy. Under powered seems to be anything less than 3hp. But with everything right, I have made a lot of sawdust with 15A table saws. Including 3+ inch rips in hardwood.
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I know the SawStops have a feature that will shut it off if the moisture level is too high so it won't have a kickback.
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So a little update on my SawStop job site saw.
Over the last week I had the saw stop on me,called the tech line and they sent out a new on/off control panel.
The code was saying that that break had been activated , yet it had not.
Last Sunday I installed the new part and left it until today .
I had turned the saw on to check that all was well and had other things to do until today.
Well you guessed it, showing the same code.
To say I’m a bit angry would be correct.
A call to Trent at Saw Stop resulted in him sending me a new saw.
So far the customer service from them has been very good.
Trent says that based on the serial number on the saw, it was a 2015 model.
As you know, I bought this saw brand new at a brand new price,yet it appears to be a well used saw.
Although the saw had looked new , Trent suspects that it was used a lot to demo the hotdog action.
Trent at SawStop said I paid for a new saw,so they owe me a new saw. Like I said, he is saying/ doing all the right things at this point.
So for those that have stayed for the entire post, here’s the list:
A used saw at new price.
A saw with a demo cartridge that will only run for 1 minute
A new on/off mech
And a LOT of down time on a saw that cost 3 times what a yellow or red one cost.
I’ll keep everyone updated on the saga.
Charlie.
Btw. The gloves are off
The store was
Hills Flat lumber in Colfax ca.
Over the last week I had the saw stop on me,called the tech line and they sent out a new on/off control panel.
The code was saying that that break had been activated , yet it had not.
Last Sunday I installed the new part and left it until today .
I had turned the saw on to check that all was well and had other things to do until today.
Well you guessed it, showing the same code.
To say I’m a bit angry would be correct.
A call to Trent at Saw Stop resulted in him sending me a new saw.
So far the customer service from them has been very good.
Trent says that based on the serial number on the saw, it was a 2015 model.
As you know, I bought this saw brand new at a brand new price,yet it appears to be a well used saw.
Although the saw had looked new , Trent suspects that it was used a lot to demo the hotdog action.
Trent at SawStop said I paid for a new saw,so they owe me a new saw. Like I said, he is saying/ doing all the right things at this point.
So for those that have stayed for the entire post, here’s the list:
A used saw at new price.
A saw with a demo cartridge that will only run for 1 minute
A new on/off mech
And a LOT of down time on a saw that cost 3 times what a yellow or red one cost.
I’ll keep everyone updated on the saga.
Charlie.
Btw. The gloves are off
The store was
Hills Flat lumber in Colfax ca.
Glad to hear it worked out. I’ve recently purchased a PCS and have nothing but good experiences with it and customer service. I’m impressed that SawStop went the extra mile to send you a new saw when it was the store who basically was the cause of the issue.
[member=9356]pettyconstruction[/member] - I have followed this thread from the beginning and it has really pained me. My Sawstop story has gone so well and yours ... well it’s painful. I am so happy about this latest turn! Please let us know how it goes. Hopefully this part of the story will have a much different beginning, middle and end!
I will also add a couple blade comments that might be useful to somebody.
I bought a 50 tooth and a 24 tooth blade from Infinity about the time I got the saw. Both are full kerf. Both lightly burn wood pretty consistently on the rip fence side of the cut. Not too bad and never on the offcut side. More recently I got a free blade from Home Depot as part of their Seeds program (I was obligated to write a review). It is roughly equivalent to a Freud Diablo. Carbide but small teeth too small IMHO to be resharpened. It does not burn the wood and cuts nearly as cleanly as the Infinity blades. It also cuts as well as the blade that came with the saw.
My conclusions are:
1) The blade that comes with the saw is not useless but is worth about $20. No so great for a pricey saw.
2) Infinity blades are still questionable in my book.
3) Splitter on SawStop still needs to be thicker than 2.3mm for full kerf blades (Sharkguard sells a 0.1 inch splitter I will probably get)
4) Wen blades are pretty good for the price.
I will probably keep using the Wen until it wears out and then replace it with a Freud. I've used a bunch of other blades but never gotten a bad Freud. The Wen is 40 tooth, thin kerf, and I have ripped hard maple almost 3 inches thick with it. It sells for about $20. I should probably just buy one as a backup. I have at least half a dozen blades that just need sharpened. I buy the better blades that can be and then don't do it.
I bought a 50 tooth and a 24 tooth blade from Infinity about the time I got the saw. Both are full kerf. Both lightly burn wood pretty consistently on the rip fence side of the cut. Not too bad and never on the offcut side. More recently I got a free blade from Home Depot as part of their Seeds program (I was obligated to write a review). It is roughly equivalent to a Freud Diablo. Carbide but small teeth too small IMHO to be resharpened. It does not burn the wood and cuts nearly as cleanly as the Infinity blades. It also cuts as well as the blade that came with the saw.
My conclusions are:
1) The blade that comes with the saw is not useless but is worth about $20. No so great for a pricey saw.
2) Infinity blades are still questionable in my book.
3) Splitter on SawStop still needs to be thicker than 2.3mm for full kerf blades (Sharkguard sells a 0.1 inch splitter I will probably get)
4) Wen blades are pretty good for the price.
I will probably keep using the Wen until it wears out and then replace it with a Freud. I've used a bunch of other blades but never gotten a bad Freud. The Wen is 40 tooth, thin kerf, and I have ripped hard maple almost 3 inches thick with it. It sells for about $20. I should probably just buy one as a backup. I have at least half a dozen blades that just need sharpened. I buy the better blades that can be and then don't do it.
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Jim, I am sorry to hear your report about Infinity blades. I had heard from several people that they thought Infinity blades were pretty good. I need to buy some full kerf rip blades and was on the fence between Infinity or Ridge Carbide (NJ company). What do you think is the cause of the burning on the cut?
JimD said:
I am not sure what caused them to burn, slightly. It is not big black marks, just light marks. The blade ever seems to bind nor does the feed rate seem to matter. I have double checked the alignment of the rip fence to the blade several times. And I get no burning with the cheap WEN blade. I still have the blades and will almost certainly use them some more. But I wish I had just bought Freud blades. I bought the two piece set, it is not the top of the line Infinity blade. Cost was about $100 for both a 50 tooth combination and a 24 tooth rip blade. The higher priced Infinity is a different blade and may work very well.
I have had Ridge resharpen at least one Freud blade and it came back better than new. Very sharp and cut great. The only thing that stops me from buying Ridge blades is the price. I haven't looked at them recently but I think they are comparable to Forest in price.
I've mostly used Freud blades and never been disappointed with them. I should have just bought a couple more of them. Or had some of my old ones sharpened.
I have had Ridge resharpen at least one Freud blade and it came back better than new. Very sharp and cut great. The only thing that stops me from buying Ridge blades is the price. I haven't looked at them recently but I think they are comparable to Forest in price.
I've mostly used Freud blades and never been disappointed with them. I should have just bought a couple more of them. Or had some of my old ones sharpened.
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pettyconstruction said:
Have you received your new saw yet?
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I have been busy and just put the saw on a pallet to be picked up tomorrow (9-3) urg.
They wanted me to pay for another saw that would b refunded after getting my old one back. I said no, I already bought one and don’t need another, so upon receiving mine, they will ship a new one.
All shipping paid by Saw Stop.
Thanks for asking,
Charlie
PS. It will be interesting to see if I receive the new version or old .
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They wanted me to pay for another saw that would b refunded after getting my old one back. I said no, I already bought one and don’t need another, so upon receiving mine, they will ship a new one.
All shipping paid by Saw Stop.
Thanks for asking,
Charlie
PS. It will be interesting to see if I receive the new version or old .
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