Setting My New Shop Up (Formerly Shop Build Progress)

[DeformedTree]

Hi Ron

Forgive me, I know nothing of the way you build things in the US....

What goes on the other side of the Sterling board? Do you have insulation and then brick or block work?
Also, how many amps is the supply to the workshop? Do you have any 240 volt supply available as I used to have in our house in Canada?

Had to look up "sterling board",  it's just called OSB here (orientated strand board).  It's just a wood frame building, he has his stucco finish on the outside, he can insulate in the cavities before covering the inside of the walls.  It's a wood frame building.

He has 220V from his post,  he mentioned a 100A panel before.  With some rare exceptions, Anytime one runs a panel it's 220V as that is how our electricity works.  You will find some old garages, or ones that people just didn't plan where they just run 1 or 2  110V circuits from the house, this sucks.  But generally most folks will run a 60-100A service out to a garage/shop from the house, so then they can wire it up full of 110 and 220V circuits.

If he didn't put a panel in his shop, I think most of us would just shun him  [big grin]

 

[Stone Message]

Thanks for the explanation.

Peter

 

[sancho57]

[member=11196]Peter Parfitt[/member]

What Deformed Tree said.

Other than please keep in mind everything youll see being done in my shop except the electrical, will be Temp installed until I get the shop insulated. By the time I get the shop insulation Ill petty much have the work flow down and thew shop in order so I can remove everything get the insulation done and put everything back.

I did just temp installed a wall mounted dust collector that I can use for my Makita planers (thicknesser) and Jet Jointer. They put out to many chips for a CT to keep up with.  Ill add photo tomorrow after I go to the Dr and pick up some ply and bead board on the way home

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Ron

I now understand how the workshop is built. So, with 240 volts does that mean that you could run some of the kit that you had bought over here without a transformer?

Peter

 

[sancho57]

Yes I could if I bought some  [big grin]  We have things that are 220V here, Like the aircon I want to eventually put in the shop. It will be 220V, for example. We have other things like air compressors , table saws that are 220V. We can choose to use either 110V or 220V.

Once the insulation is installed and drywall/ wall covering is installed it makes it alot more difficult to add wiring. So I perfer to add the 220v circuits before all that gets installed.

Im of the school its better to have it and not need t and to need it and not have it

 

[Bob D.]

Ron, did you happen to set a couple floor boxes for 120v and/or 240v power out to the center of the space or run any ductwork in the slab for dust collection. I know I would like to not have hoses and cords dropping down from the ceiling in my shop. I do have them clustered into one group but sometimes you have to work around them when maneuvering a large piece and I would like to have a boom arm but the power cords and dust collection drops in the center of the shop kinda kill that.

 

[sancho57]

Damn, That was something I didnt think of.

 

[rvieceli]

I've always thought one of those raised panelized floors like they use in computer server rooms would be handy. Not sure if they are beefy enough to handle heavy stationary machines though

Ron

 

[sancho57]

As promised/mentioned here is the photo of my wall mountable DC its a shop fox dust collector.

I hung it on the wall, still gotta attach the bag to it. Thinking about attaching plastic garbage bags and put a trash can under it. I only will use this for my makita 12" planer and my Jet jointer all the other collection will be done using my festool CTs .

Spent the day ripping and sizing plywood. That STM really makes handling plywood easy, its still heavy but this makes it doable. Tomorrow ill be using the LR 32 making shelf pin holes and edge banding with the contouro. Next on my agenda is making drawers for these cabinets various sizes to start being able to store stuff, still need to get bead board and the hanging thingies to hang stuff from the bead board.

 

[FestitaMakool]

Nice start Jobsworth [smile]
Looking forward to see the progress. I’m moving rooms myself, to a more half permanent but yet small space, until final destination, hopefully next summer.

I can see you need a table-protection-disc for your coffee cup...  [wink] Condensating hot cups don’t do MFT’s any good  [big grin]

Hoping you’ll tell about your chip extractor, considering this solution myself, very space saving.

 

[sancho57]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

That dust collector (DC) works very good for what I use it for my makita 12" planer and my Jet jointer. Its fairly inexpensive compared to other types of DCs out there. Only draw back was the size of the bag that came with it it fills up quick. But then I was planing 6 ea of 2"X12"x8' pine board which created a lot of chips.

Todays exciting adventure in the shop, I got a late start but got the shelf pin holes in all 6 of the cabinets sides. using the vac clamps (2 heads) really made it go fast and easy theyre close to each other mounted of the ends of a MFT so I just switched between sides and when I finished both I swiveled the vac heads around and finsihed the other sides.

Tomorrow edge banding and trimming then off to Blowes to pick up a trash can for the shop and maybe some bead board and spur shelving.

 

[DeformedTree]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

That dust collector (DC) works very good for what I use it for my makita 12" planer and my Jet jointer. Its fairly inexpensive compared to other types of DCs out there. Only draw back was the size of the bag that came with it it fills up quick. But then I was planing 6 ea of 2"X12"x8' pine board which created a lot of chips.

You said the CT can't handle the planer.  Do you have the cyclone? I'm wondering if that would make a difference.  Or maybe the answer is use a Chip box, and then have the CT suck from there (maybe less for the chips, more for dust/maintain the airflow of things.  I've been looking for solutions when the time comes for this.

 

[sancho57]

Yes I have a FT cyclone. I found that if is use very very thin cuts and slow in between cuts the CT can handle the planer. Other wise it will clog. But for about $150-$200 bucks I got the wall mountable DC which seems to work good other than the bag filling quickly which I mentioned.

I guess if you have a DeWalt which Ive HEARD dont know for sure, has a chip ejector maybe a chip box or a CT may work. I just got tired of stopping and cleaning out the clogged cyclone and CT hoses every 3 minutes or so.

A regular shop vac may work better than a CT but I chose to go with a wall mountable DC

 

[Bob D.]

The DW735 does have a chip ejector which works well.

 

[DeformedTree]

I've been looking at the Makita like you have.  Getting other vacs and such isn't an option, as everything I have is portable/compact.  Thats why an intermediate chip box can be an option.  I know a planer is at the limits of a CT, but that would be the most extreme thing I have going, thus why finding a usable path works, doesn't need to be perfect, I won't be running a forest thru the thing.

 

[sancho57]

[member=68063]DeformedTree[/member]

I own the Makita 12" planer and love it. They havent changd the design over the years it looks like the original Its light and gives a great surface finish with min snipe. It has a positive stop for repeatable sizing when planing.

Now for todays exciting shop activities

Ok edge banded today then ran to blowes picked up some spur shelving and a Kreg Corner clamp I want to see if it will help me aligning the corners on the cabinets making them easier to screw together.  Ran in and out, didnt get a trash can or bead board like I went there for. so tomorrow Ill assemble the cabinets check that jig out put a temp base down to set the cabinets on maybe have time to hang the spur shelving and put some systainers on them

 

[Alanbach]

Ok, that’s a new one on me. What is spur shelving? And don’t say that it is shelving!

 

[sancho57]

Ill take a photo ina minute got to run out to the shop for a bit.

 

[FestitaMakool]

Jobsworth, do you have a 50mm hose you can hook up to your planer?
A 50mm hose moves a lot more air..

I have a couple of 50 hoses I’m gonna test on my band saw, bench sander and a small jointer.
Reason for trying is that my chip extractor’s motor just died, and no time before Christmas to get a new motor or extractor. Not just there yet to have a go..

 

[sancho57]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

Yah I got one but I just dont think the extractors pull enough suction to be effective. Try it and let us know what ya find out

[member=66185]Alanbach[/member] Photos below

So I crewed the cabinets together for the other side of the miter saw station. I wanted to start getting stuff off the floor so I put the spur shelving up. I should of used the 3rd support i bought instead of just 2, tomorrow I add the 3rd support. Still got more systainers to set on the shelving. Once I get the cabinets built and set permanently Ill use the spur shelving for the garage.

That Kreg corner clamp really worked good with was like a 3rd hand holding a corner together while I screwed it and helped with the other 3 screws for each joint.

I took a photo of the clamp and the shelving for those who dont know what spur shelving is..

Once I put the base down and set the cabinets on it Ill take a photo of them.