ghhsolutions
Member
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2020
- Messages
- 80
melroseg said:
While that is on Amazon UK it is a third-party seller in the USA.
Sys3 rails in UK
- Thread starter Freetime101
- Start date
While that is on Amazon UK it is a third-party seller in the USA.
Also "currently unavailble" and overpriced.
It's utter bullcrap the rails aren't available outside the USA.
Also not appreciated US website are blocking European visitors...
It's how you get replaced by China. The Chinese ask less for their clones including shipping than the Americans charge for shipping an ounce of air across the Ocean.
It's utter bullcrap the rails aren't available outside the USA.
Also not appreciated US website are blocking European visitors...
It's how you get replaced by China. The Chinese ask less for their clones including shipping than the Americans charge for shipping an ounce of air across the Ocean.
Systainer.Store said:
What is the weight of a SYS rail? 4 for 2 pounds? So one is 1/2 pound, let's say 250 grams? So 80 are 20 kg? Shippingcosts of 80 rails to NL on systainer.store results in shipping quote of $500... I can ship such a weight the other way for €130...
FestitaMakool
Member
- Joined
- Oct 12, 2019
- Messages
- 1,491
mino
Member
- Joined
- May 5, 2016
- Messages
- 1,989
Careful, that is dual scale ... the 4-sets bag shows slightly above 1kg so 250g or so per a 2-rails set.Coen said:
BTW, our local etailer just listed the rails for CZK 480 ($20+VAT) per set. It seems they will be getting them directly from Bott.
The US Festool price seems reasonable in context.
https://www.naradionline.cz/vodici-kolejnice-festool-na-systainer-sys3-2ks.html
I mailed the local Festool... and yup; Festool agreed to not sell them here... because it would get in the way of Bott..
I might take another look at the Hettich 'more than fully' extendable drawer slides. That will result in the least amount of lost space, I think.
I might take another look at the Hettich 'more than fully' extendable drawer slides. That will result in the least amount of lost space, I think.
GarryMartin
Member
- Joined
- Jun 11, 2011
- Messages
- 1,975
For those that may be interested, there is 3D printed model and print files available athttps://www.printables.com/model/245891-festool-rails-for-systainer3
I've printed these and they work fine.
I've printed these and they work fine.
Freetime101 said:
I got my first 4-pack from Amazon UK, but they quickly became unavailable. Got my next pack of 4 pairs from AliExpress at £65 inc VAT, free shipping. Then tried the ‘extending version’ from a 3rd party, printed. Just as solid, same thickness as the Festool rials (so same internal cabinet dimensions) at £15/ pair. Now there’s a seller on eBay selling 10 packs for £100, so £10/pair. Since Festool aren’t interested and Bott want £45/pair (they can eff right off), then I know who my cash is going to.
Hello, I am from Belgium and have the same problem buying rails.
Now I bought 2 sets from Etsy, to my surprise they are different in dimensions. especially the thickness of the side that is screwed in to the cabinet is different. One is 6mm thick and the other is 10mm thick. Does anyone know what is the thickness of the original one?
thanks
Now I bought 2 sets from Etsy, to my surprise they are different in dimensions. especially the thickness of the side that is screwed in to the cabinet is different. One is 6mm thick and the other is 10mm thick. Does anyone know what is the thickness of the original one?
thanks
Tanos now seems to be selling them directly in DE/AT/FR/NL but at like 2x the price of what is common in the USA for the Festool branded ones.
https://shop.systainer.com/nl/systainer3-rails-sys3-rail/83000863
It comes with a disclaimer;
Translated;
"Customer is aware the SYS-Rails are not approved for use in vehicles. By purchasing the product he agrees that they are not intended for use in the vehicle. Moreover the customer recognizes that the sale by TANOS is solely intended for private use and that every commercial re-sale is forbidden"
Yes, the language errors were also present in the original.
https://shop.systainer.com/nl/systainer3-rails-sys3-rail/83000863
It comes with a disclaimer;
Translated;
"Customer is aware the SYS-Rails are not approved for use in vehicles. By purchasing the product he agrees that they are not intended for use in the vehicle. Moreover the customer recognizes that the sale by TANOS is solely intended for private use and that every commercial re-sale is forbidden"
Yes, the language errors were also present in the original.
mino
Member
- Joined
- May 5, 2016
- Messages
- 1,989
Good!
That disclaimer very much explains why the Bott rails are non-available separately.
Implies Bott has them approved for in-vehicle installs (in EU) only with an authorised technician doing the install. That makes sense as approvals for "professional install only" stuff are (way) easier to get. Guess that is the legal framework for most of their install hardware ... and Tanos did not think of these much, given they have SYS-AZ for the "static" market.
That price is better than the Bott version seling over here for €24 ..
Once this gets into etail, I would expect we get below €15 a set. Though, frankly, there is no reason for these to sell for more than the US prices and whereabouts, nor to not ship in the 4-sets bundle by default. A single rails set is of not much use. Just increases the costs.
That disclaimer very much explains why the Bott rails are non-available separately.
Implies Bott has them approved for in-vehicle installs (in EU) only with an authorised technician doing the install. That makes sense as approvals for "professional install only" stuff are (way) easier to get. Guess that is the legal framework for most of their install hardware ... and Tanos did not think of these much, given they have SYS-AZ for the "static" market.
That price is better than the Bott version seling over here for €24 ..
Once this gets into etail, I would expect we get below €15 a set. Though, frankly, there is no reason for these to sell for more than the US prices and whereabouts, nor to not ship in the 4-sets bundle by default. A single rails set is of not much use. Just increases the costs.
slavi.yordanov
Member
- Joined
- May 28, 2020
- Messages
- 131
It's crazy how 3 sister companies make it so hard for their customers to buy their products.
A couple of examples:
1. I recently bought a Systainer Rack with 6x Systainer S. The small Systainers don't come with the dividers ($2 per systainer cost difference). I figured I'll order them separate, but guess what? They don't sell the dividers separate in the US???
2. I have two company vans equipped with Bott Racks. They offer open top Bott Boxes in two sizes that you can put on the shelves. Both kinds can have dividers installed, but in the US they don't sell dividers for the wider Bott Box??
A couple of examples:
1. I recently bought a Systainer Rack with 6x Systainer S. The small Systainers don't come with the dividers ($2 per systainer cost difference). I figured I'll order them separate, but guess what? They don't sell the dividers separate in the US???
2. I have two company vans equipped with Bott Racks. They offer open top Bott Boxes in two sizes that you can put on the shelves. Both kinds can have dividers installed, but in the US they don't sell dividers for the wider Bott Box??
