Tall door

awil66 · Feb 28, 2012

Hi all. Need some advice on a door project. It has to be about 3'x12', and is going in a tall loft space. Barn door type hardware is not an option (no room) so I was thinking of a pivot hinge. I am worried about the weight.
I am either going to domino some long boards together with a couple of cleats on the back side, or build a thin torsion box and skin it. It is a rustic industrial type space, so a panel type door is not really necessary. Material is probably white oak.
Any thoughts on one versus the other? Anyone built a very tall door, and maybe can point out some gotchas?
Thanks, Alan

justinh · Mar 3, 2012

If you want to use a pivot hinge the Ives 7255 has about a 500lb rating. They are similar to the Rixon pivots but I don't remember the model number on those. The tallest door I've swung with them was 8'. I'd be a bit concerned with the door bowing over time without hardware to keep it straight even if the door was built as a torsion box.

Jonhilgen · Mar 3, 2012

SOSS makes a heavy duty hinge. We've used them on some very heavy 2" x 10' mdf doors.

Or this one I found on a quick search. Looks better than SOSS since it has adjustment capability.
TECTUS® Concealed Hinges : 3-D Adjustments (New Models)

Jon

awil66 · Mar 3, 2012

thanks for the replies. I have thought about soss hinges, but the location of the door doesn't really warrant a jamb. But looking at those ones you linked to, I may rethink that. Adjustable always seems good.
thanks again, Alan

justinh · Mar 3, 2012

I've never worked with the Tectus hinges but I have used the similar Sugatsunes. Very nice but pricy ($150 per hinge) and they require a separate template for both the door and jamb mortises as they are different sizes. They are also sized metric which just adds to the fun. Soss hinges require near perfection to install but aren't manufactured to the same tolerances. Patience is required on the install and a second pair of hands is nice when swinging the door but you can make due with a pair of over sized shims/wedges to get the bottom hinge started into it's pocket.

jmbfestool · Mar 3, 2012

I have used SOSS hinges little awkward cus they have no adjustment!

Them ones with adjustment would be a much better option but they do also cost more! I have never used them my self but seen them a while ago to keep in mind for a job but no job has come up for me to use them.

Funny thing is I have never seen them adjustable ones in the flesh but some how I have 10 of them cover plates laying around some where! No idea how I ended up with them.

JMB

nydesign · Mar 3, 2012

thanks for the link to Tectus! I had never seen them before.
we were just about to buy SOSS for three doors on the current job. I'm giving the company who distributes
the Tectus a call on monday to get pricing. Being able to adjust them is a huge feature.

Jonhilgen · Mar 3, 2012

nydesign said:
thanks for the link to Tectus! I had never seen them before.
we were just about to buy SOSS for three doors on the current job. I'm giving the company who distributes
the Tectus a call on monday to get pricing. Being able to adjust them is a huge feature.

I literally just stubled across it ooking for a big SOSS hinge pic for tjis post. Being able to have a SOSS style hinge with adjustability is a huge advantage.

Let us know about pricing when you hear back.

Jon

woodguy7 · Mar 3, 2012

They are on this UK site.

http://www.sdslondon.co.uk/tectus-for-heavy-duty-doors.html

Frank-Jan · Mar 3, 2012

Other brands for adjustable concealed hinges are argenta link and kubica link.
I recently installed those concealed hinges for the first time, I went for the argenta invisible medium, they are adjustable and reversible (no different L and R hinges) and they cost about half what a comparable soss hinge would.

Tallest interior door I installed sofar was a floor to ceiling double swing door in a hallway (but that was only 2.6 m high). It was 40 mm wbp plywood with added afzelia veneer on a dorma floorspring. I made the mistake of making the top reveal too small so it scuffed the ceiling a bit when lifting it onto the floorspring.

nydesign · Mar 3, 2012

Thanks for the pricing link, that's not bad, $105 US. I'm curious to see what they charge for them in NY.

Klump · Mar 8, 2012

I have used the Tectus hinge from Bartels Doors multiple times. They also have another 3D adjustable hinge made in Germany that is less expensive. I use a Festool router with the template from Bartels, and the instalation is a breeze. These hinges are more expensive than Soss, but the durabilty, adjustability and finish are well worth the extra price. You also only have to use 2 hinges per standard sized doors as opposed to 4 from Soss. Check out Bartels Doors Hinge Website.

www.concealed-hinges .com or StainlessDoorHardware.com

nydesign · Mar 9, 2012

I ordered 6 of the Tectus hinges from index-d, they are in bridgeport CT.
They were helpful and overnighted the hinges to us, after we called them at 4:30 in the afternoon.

The TE 340's cost 104 each, they are rated for 176 pounds.
They also are renting me an install kit for $99. Which is not bad
considering the cost of the kit would be about $1000 with all the parts.
The install video looks really simple, I'm planning on making some practice holes in some door scraps first.

woodguy7 · Mar 9, 2012

Welcome to the FOG Klump [big grin]

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