To Domino or not to Domino? That IS the question....

[ChuckS]

Thank you all for your input!

I have ordered the DF 500 RQ set together with the systainer fill of various dominos.

Snip.

b) I am not fully convinced by the handle design and am concerned that it may be less ergonomic in vertical cuts (just a hunch but I'm not ready to take that plunge - excuse the pun)

I am looking forward to it arriving although I think the first project I will be using it on has some "challenging" joints so I am mentally preparing myself for some failures to start with

Unless the D-handle in the DFC is different from the DF700, which I have used on vertical cuts, I can assure you that it's far easier to do vertical cuts with the DF500 barrel than with the DFC handle, especially when you have a lot to mill.

 

[onocoffee]

Indeed I have - many times!
The man is a treasure trove of Festool hints, tips and explanations.

As a matter of fact I discovered today purely by accident that his Festool channel seems to have stopped production? What a shame that is.

Sedge has his own YouTube channel: SedgeTool and he's been releasing weekly videos on the regular - I think typically on Sundays.

What has ceased production is the Festool Live show on Festool USA's YouTube channel. This was a sharp and abrupt ending and the word is that Sedge and a number of others were fired from their positions at Festool USA.

It's a shame because FTL was FTUSA's first and best outreach to users and potential users - with a worldwide reach. I don't know what the issue was (though I have theories) but FTL is Dead and there does not seem to be a replacement. So, any intrepid YouTubers (or Sedge himself): there's a gap in the Noon Eastern Time slot on Fridays that people will be wanting to fill...

 

[peter halle]

Personally I think of the word "fired" for when an employee has done something wrong that ends their employment. "Layoff", for me, fits the situation where a company makes a decision to release employee(s) for reasons not related to job performance.

Just me.

Peter

 

[luvmytoolz]

Personally I think of the word "fired" for when an employee has done something wrong that ends their employment. "Layoff", for me, fits the situation where a company makes a decision to release employee(s) for reasons not related to job performance.

Just me.

Peter

Times like this I think a simple statement or some sort of acknowledgement should be released to halt the inevitable rumour mill.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Personally I think of the word "fired" for when an employee has done something wrong that ends their employment. "Layoff", for me, fits the situation where a company makes a decision to release employee(s) for reasons not related to job performance.

Just me.

Peter

A pack of DOGE got loose and ended up in Indiana?

 

[Stevenski]

I can assure you that it's far easier to do vertical cuts with the DF500 barrel than with the DFC handle, especially when you have a lot to mill.

That's my gut feeling based on just looking at pictures so it's comforting to have someone with experience confirm it
But I am sure I would be happy either way It was really cordless vs corded that decided it for me this time

 

[onocoffee]

Personally I think of the word "fired" for when an employee has done something wrong that ends their employment. "Layoff", for me, fits the situation where a company makes a decision to release employee(s) for reasons not related to job performance.

Just me.

Peter

Point taken. I rephrase: "layoff" would be the better used term.

 

[mino]

EDIT: FTL note moved to appropriate thread (mino)

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There are VERY few expensive tools I would highly recommend anyone to get BEFORE they are skilled and thus BEFORE they build up their own "tool chest":
1) TPC 18 + all the supported chucks
2) DOMINO + CT15

The reasoning is those are two extremely universal tools which makes them the most valuable for a newbie as they cause a A LOT of time/money normally wasted on various "limited and/or junk tool" to just not happen.

Yes.

I am saying that buying those items as early as possible, even at the cost of skipping a lof of "cheap" kit is the best possible spend of money for a hobby/ newbie.

Sure, there are many great tools for great value. But none have such a wide reach and teaching/guiding potential as a universal drill and a universal joiner. And that multiplication effect - from owning those early on - is the bigger the more a beginner/the more an amateur the purchaser is.

 

[petar73]

Domino yes. TPC, don’t think so. My most unused drill is the big and heavy combi drill (not a festool, i dont own festool drills).

 

[ChuckS]

About the D handle. It's still not too late for the new corded DF500 to be designed with a detachable handle for regular cuts, while leaving the barrel for vertical cuts. The detachable handle can be included like other accessories such as the support bracket.

 

[ChuckS]

Domino yes. TPC, don’t think so. My most unused drill is the big and heavy combi drill (not a festool, i dont own festool drills).

Unlike the Domino Joiner, other brands of drills exist to do the job of Festool drills. Until the patent expires and a clone comes to market, there's only one Domino Joiner. The DF, once mastered and/or used with after-market or shop-made jigs or accessories, can bring significant productivity boost and opportunities. In the last 10 years, except those joints done by hand, every project completed in my shop that required a structural joinery, including tables and chairs, was done with the DF500. In terms of quantity, I'm talking about 50 to 60 pieces, using hundreds.and hundreds of tenons of various sizes from 4mm to 10mm.

I have used three different models of Festool drills. In 95% of use, they aren't anything different from any other cordless drills I own or have used (Makita, Bosch, Ridgid and Black & Decker). The main difference for the 5% use lies in the chuck accessories.