TS55R in CMS Unit - Video - Updated Part 1 and Part 2
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fritter63 said:
Yes. The fence comes off very quickly and can be fitted to either side. The scales are on both sides and so you can work just as accurately.
I can't remember if I show it in this video (but it appears in subsequent videos), the rebating capability of this saw in the CMS unit is brilliant.
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Peter Parfitt said:
I'm also curious about the response from Festool since I'm about to get the CMS TS55R and would like to be able to use my TS55 in the CMS. I also had a look on the exploded views in the EKAT and to what I can see, the parts that differ are.
*Hight adjuster assembly (like Peter said). Peter would you say it works with your trial setup or is the correct part needed?
If a new part is needed it's actually just the main part of the assembly. 463649 (part 28 for TS55) to replace 10002797 (part 24 for TS55R). But if you want to be able to swap between the old and new saw I would get two complete sets of the "Height adjuster" with all bits and pieces (parts 23-34,TS55)
*Support for the riving knife (for mounting the dust-shroud on) 467709 (part 43 for TS55) to replace 500207 (part 43 TS55R)
*Lock for the riving knife (like Alex said) 493659 (part 44 for TS55)
Maybe I'm missing something but I hope that Festool UK will chime in on this.
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See http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/cms-ts-55-55r-saw-module/
All the detail for the difference in parts between the TS 55 and TS 55R is in that post.
All the detail for the difference in parts between the TS 55 and TS 55R is in that post.
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Many thanks Garry.
You cannot afford to 'wing it' with this sort of thing and have to have the right parts. But it is a pity that Festool do not offer a package of bits for the two situations:
- TS55R owner with the old CMS-TS
- TS55 owner who has the TS55R CMS-TS but wants the option of putting the TS55 in there
Peter
You cannot afford to 'wing it' with this sort of thing and have to have the right parts. But it is a pity that Festool do not offer a package of bits for the two situations:
- TS55R owner with the old CMS-TS
- TS55 owner who has the TS55R CMS-TS but wants the option of putting the TS55 in there
Peter
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Thank you for your excellent videos Peter, always enjoy them.
Much as I like the CMS options I went a long route before landing my second (!) CS50EB.
I was looking at the smallest unit possible and started out with the CMS.
I quickly realized that I used the TS55 too much to switch back and forth between CMS and rail. Since I really enjoyed the light frame of the CMS I chucked a TS75 in there and had a very powerful and highly portable unit! Of course - the first week on site I came across a sawing task that had me remove the TS75 from the CMS...
...at the same job I realized that a TS75 is too powerful for such a small frame and that pushing larger stock on a flimsy frame is workable but sometimes you feel you are on the verge of tipping the whole unit because it is so flimsy. You can't fit large sheets safely on the CMS. It is a bit awkward on the CS50 too and personally I find it easy on the CS70.
I went the CS70 route with all bells and whistles and have built many a great thing with it as a base unit. With all the add ons I found it simply to heavy to lug around and after thinking it over for a while, the CMS was sold and I bought a _really_ battered CS50 for chump change.
It was all bruised up but with some cleaning and adjustments it was bang on. Having both the CS50 and CS70 was luxurious but it meant I hardly ever used the CS70. The CS70 was basement camping for quite a while but I have access to large format saws so I recently sold the complete CS70 unit and bought a "cheap" Blue Bosch for on site tasks (works great) and kept the CS50 for the finer trim jobs and such. In the end I bought a new one after getting a 20% off everything coupon and bought a Kapex and CS50EB unit with that 20% discount. YEAH!!!
The battered CS50 was sold with a profit to a small firm that thought it "looked great".
If I had a man cave basement or small to medium shop I would be very happy with the CS70 and add ons. For a small to mini shop and for portability the CS50 is top notch. I have a micro shop so even the CS50 is folded up when not in use and before that the CS70 was something I had to crawl over [eek] with "wings and flaps" attached.
CS50 does most of what the CS70 does in a much lighter package. For cutting down larger stock the CS70 is still not the best option but in medium sized stock/sheets the extra power of the CS70 is very welcome. I think the CS70 excels in medium stock but the CS50 works well with sheet goods, if cut down to workable sizes with the TS55 and rail.
Both units cut smooth and precision is excellent if set up properly, which it usually is out of the box.
Much as I like the CMS options I went a long route before landing my second (!) CS50EB.
I was looking at the smallest unit possible and started out with the CMS.
I quickly realized that I used the TS55 too much to switch back and forth between CMS and rail. Since I really enjoyed the light frame of the CMS I chucked a TS75 in there and had a very powerful and highly portable unit! Of course - the first week on site I came across a sawing task that had me remove the TS75 from the CMS...
...at the same job I realized that a TS75 is too powerful for such a small frame and that pushing larger stock on a flimsy frame is workable but sometimes you feel you are on the verge of tipping the whole unit because it is so flimsy. You can't fit large sheets safely on the CMS. It is a bit awkward on the CS50 too and personally I find it easy on the CS70.
I went the CS70 route with all bells and whistles and have built many a great thing with it as a base unit. With all the add ons I found it simply to heavy to lug around and after thinking it over for a while, the CMS was sold and I bought a _really_ battered CS50 for chump change.
It was all bruised up but with some cleaning and adjustments it was bang on. Having both the CS50 and CS70 was luxurious but it meant I hardly ever used the CS70. The CS70 was basement camping for quite a while but I have access to large format saws so I recently sold the complete CS70 unit and bought a "cheap" Blue Bosch for on site tasks (works great) and kept the CS50 for the finer trim jobs and such. In the end I bought a new one after getting a 20% off everything coupon and bought a Kapex and CS50EB unit with that 20% discount. YEAH!!!
The battered CS50 was sold with a profit to a small firm that thought it "looked great".
If I had a man cave basement or small to medium shop I would be very happy with the CS70 and add ons. For a small to mini shop and for portability the CS50 is top notch. I have a micro shop so even the CS50 is folded up when not in use and before that the CS70 was something I had to crawl over [eek] with "wings and flaps" attached.
CS50 does most of what the CS70 does in a much lighter package. For cutting down larger stock the CS70 is still not the best option but in medium sized stock/sheets the extra power of the CS70 is very welcome. I think the CS70 excels in medium stock but the CS50 works well with sheet goods, if cut down to workable sizes with the TS55 and rail.
Both units cut smooth and precision is excellent if set up properly, which it usually is out of the box.
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Hi Henrik
Well you have had some fun buying selling and swapping saws around.
The only point that I would like to make is, as you say, that these Festool table saw setups are not really suited to large sheet work and it is far easier to do the main sheet break-down with a TS and rail. There is a debate about this on another thread where people acknowledge that it is the man handling of the sheets themselves that is the real bind when trying to break them down on a table saw. A nice flat (TS and rail) saw station is far easier.
Many thanks for your kind words.
Cheers.
Peter
Well you have had some fun buying selling and swapping saws around.
The only point that I would like to make is, as you say, that these Festool table saw setups are not really suited to large sheet work and it is far easier to do the main sheet break-down with a TS and rail. There is a debate about this on another thread where people acknowledge that it is the man handling of the sheets themselves that is the real bind when trying to break them down on a table saw. A nice flat (TS and rail) saw station is far easier.
Many thanks for your kind words.
Cheers.
Peter
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Peter, I do wish it was fun buying and selling saws. To be honest it has been a hassle and a head ache at timea.
At times I run the saws a lot and sometimes they are idle for a month or two.
It was awkward having both the CS50 and CS70, like needing a new blade and not knowing which one to spend more money on. I don't like owning that is not being put to good use.
All things considered I opted for a compact and light weight precision. For skirting, light carpentry and trim work the CS50 works wonders. My CS70 has found a great new home and a happy new owner.
At times I run the saws a lot and sometimes they are idle for a month or two.
It was awkward having both the CS50 and CS70, like needing a new blade and not knowing which one to spend more money on. I don't like owning that is not being put to good use.
All things considered I opted for a compact and light weight precision. For skirting, light carpentry and trim work the CS50 works wonders. My CS70 has found a great new home and a happy new owner.
