UK - CORDLESS TWINPACK, what's the best combination?

[toolfest.co.uk]

Good Morning

Can you help? If we were to put together a Cordless Twinpack what do you think would be the best combination?

I'm thinking T18 & BHC might be good or maybe PDC & TSC? I'd really appreciate your thoughts and ideas.

Many thanks

Warren

 

[Bigchasbroon]

I'm assuming you plan on offering one tool with 2 batteries and charger and one basic?

I currently have a PDC and a dwc and I plan to by the PSC in April before the voucher runs out. So I might have been tempted by a PDC PSC combo.

Or why not offer a discount on any basic machine when bought with any cordless machine with the two batteries? Or do you plan on buying a lot of the two types?

While we're on bundled deals I notice in Germany they sell cms bundles with the basic a of module router and sliding table and also with the ts.

I reckon something like that might be a winner if the price was right, the ones I had looked at seemed like a cracking deal, of course the exchange rate helps quite a bit.

 

[mac sparrow]

So many choices.

My drill combination is: CXS, PDC 18/4 and a BHC (in the near future) - this will cover me for the majority of drilling applications.

If we're talking just 18v battery platform then the PDC 18/4 and a BHC.

What would be the "value added" if you had a drill and saw combination - PDC 18/4 and Carvex?  The TSC eats batteries in my experience.

Would most chaps already have a combi drill and thus would benefit more by a BHC?  It's a difficult one.  I wish the syslite could be included in that because my syslites built in battery seems poor so I now run it off one of the 18v batteries which lasts an entire day almost of constant use.

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

I'm assuming you plan on offering one tool with 2 batteries and charger and one basic?

I currently have a PDC and a dwc and I plan to by the PSC in April before the voucher runs out. So I might have been tempted by a PDC PSC combo.

Or why not offer a discount on any basic machine when bought with any cordless machine with the two batteries? Or do you plan on buying a lot of the two types?

While we're on bundled deals I notice in Germany they sell cms bundles with the basic a of module router and sliding table and also with the ts.

I reckon something like that might be a winner if the price was right, the ones I had looked at seemed like a cracking deal, of course the exchange rate helps quite a bit.

Exactly what I was thinking, a Set version and a Basic version bundled together, and to keep it fairly simple, without too many options. Maybe adding another small item to give the package added value?

Your point about the CMS packages is a very good one and we get asked alot about these, something to keep in mind.

So many choices.

My drill combination is: CXS, PDC 18/4 and a BHC (in the near future) - this will cover me for the majority of drilling applications.

If we're talking just 18v battery platform then the PDC 18/4 and a BHC.

What would be the "value added" if you had a drill and saw combination - PDC 18/4 and Carvex?  The TSC eats batteries in my experience.

Would most chaps already have a combi drill and thus would benefit more by a BHC?  It's a difficult one.  I wish the syslite could be included in that because my syslites built in battery seems poor so I now run it off one of the 18v batteries which lasts an entire day almost of constant use.

I agree, it is a difficult one. The BHC I think would be a front runner as the Basic add-on, as many people might not purchase it outright to begin with, but if the correct price point could be attained, a PDC (essential first drill IMHO) and a BHC could be a winner. Again add on some value in bits or something to sweeten the deal.

Thanks for the input, any more ideas?

Best regards

Warren

 

[kmhphoto]

Any time frame on when this would be available? I'm about to take the plunge on a PDC and could be persuaded to part with some more cash

 

[mrboult]

Carvex!!!

My 18v line's Superstars are the PDC & Carvex.  These two tools can accomplish a lot. 

I made lovely little reading room shed thingy, in a Nature reserve last year.  All out of reclaimed rough cut timber in 3 days using nothing but those two tools and 6 batteries charged only at night.  No power - No Problem. [big grin]

Plus the many other reasons it's damn handy to have a cordless saw.

 

[andyman]

BHC & Carvex I'd be interested

 

[Davej]

Bhc and carved for me to

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

Any time frame on when this would be available? I'm about to take the plunge on a PDC and could be persuaded to part with some more cash

Not sure yet, just gathering ideas.

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

BHC & Carvex I'd be interested

There's a combination I hadn't thought of......ideal compliment to someone who already has a PDC maybe.

Good idea.

 

[jonny round boy]

BHC & Carvex I'd be interested

There's a combination I hadn't thought of......ideal compliment to someone who already has a PDC maybe.

Good idea.

Warren,

I think that's a good point - you need to decide who this promotion is going to be aimed at. Is it for those that don't already own a Festool drill & are looking to get into the 18V system, or is it for those that already have a drill & are looking to add to it? The combinations will obviously vary depending on which it is.

Festool dumping the 4.2Ah PDC stock before Christmas has created an extra couple of hundred people in the latter category, so that may be the better/more profitable route. For those people, or those that already have a T18, the BHC and Carvex would be a great combo.

For those that don't have a drill already, then the most likely combo for a 'new user' would be a drill (either the PDC or T18) plus the Carvex.

How many of these packages are you looking to shift in order to make it worthwhile? You don't need to share that with us, but you obviously need to know. Presumably you need to buy all these by the pallet to get the best price from Festool.

Could you offer two packages? The PDC (or T18) & Carvex for those new to Festool 18V, and then the BHC & Carvex for those that already have a drill.

Of course, you then have to decide on barrel grip vs. D handle Barrel grip FTW!!!  [big grin]

FWIW, I don't think the TSC or DWC would really work in a combo; the DWC is too specialised, and the TSC is too pricey & eats batteries, so would most likely be purchased on it's own (plus the combinations of number of batteries & chargers, with/without rail etc. make it far too complicated). The DRC is also out, as the negligible price difference between that & the PDC makes the PDC a no-brainer. I don't know why they even bothered with the DRC tbh. [unsure]

Like mrB said, I also own the PDC and Carvex, and it's a great combo!

 

[Nippychippy]

I could be interested in the bhc , carvex combo because I was luck to get the pdc last year

 

[sae]

Why not let people choose? Buy two cordless tools, get £X off.

 

[jonny round boy]

Why not let people choose? Buy two cordless tools, get £X off.

Because that won't work with Festool's pricing structure over here.

In the UK, dealers get a better price for buying a full pallet of one version of one machine than for buying individual machines. So, if you're going to offer a deal on a combo, you'd need to buy a full pallet of each version of each machine in the deal. Doable with a pre-determined combination of two or possibly three, but to offer the deal on any two tools, you'd have to buy a full pallet of every version (Basic, Plus, and Set) of every tool. No one dealer has pockets that deep, or a warehouse that big...  [scared]

 

[Doug S]

I would say BHC and Carvex. Festool knew what they were doing selling off the PDC on Ebay, I was happy with my 18v makita stuff but had to buy PDC at that price, now I'm thinking Carvex and then BHC. It's all JRBs fault for posting about the Ebay offer  [mad]

Doug

 

[joiner1970]

I would say BHC and Carvex. Festool knew what they were doing selling off the PDC on Ebay, I was happy with my 18v makita stuff but had to buy PDC at that price, now I'm thinking Carvex and then BHC. It's all JRBs fault for posting about the Ebay offer  [mad]

Doug

Snap

Thinking of selling my Makita stuff now

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

BHC & Carvex I'd be interested

There's a combination I hadn't thought of......ideal compliment to someone who already has a PDC maybe.

Good idea.

Warren,

I think that's a good point - you need to decide who this promotion is going to be aimed at. Is it for those that don't already own a Festool drill & are looking to get into the 18V system, or is it for those that already have a drill & are looking to add to it? The combinations will obviously vary depending on which it is.

Festool dumping the 4.2Ah PDC stock before Christmas has created an extra couple of hundred people in the latter category, so that may be the better/more profitable route. For those people, or those that already have a T18, the BHC and Carvex would be a great combo.

For those that don't have a drill already, then the most likely combo for a 'new user' would be a drill (either the PDC or T18) plus the Carvex.

How many of these packages are you looking to shift in order to make it worthwhile? You don't need to share that with us, but you obviously need to know. Presumably you need to buy all these by the pallet to get the best price from Festool.

Could you offer two packages? The PDC (or T18) & Carvex for those new to Festool 18V, and then the BHC & Carvex for those that already have a drill.

Of course, you then have to decide on barrel grip vs. D handle Barrel grip FTW!!!  [big grin]

FWIW, I don't think the TSC or DWC would really work in a combo; the DWC is too specialised, and the TSC is too pricey & eats batteries, so would most likely be purchased on it's own (plus the combinations of number of batteries & chargers, with/without rail etc. make it far too complicated). The DRC is also out, as the negligible price difference between that & the PDC makes the PDC a no-brainer. I don't know why they even bothered with the DRC tbh. [unsure]

Like mrB said, I also own the PDC and Carvex, and it's a great combo!

Jonny

All very good points, you should have my job, but then there would be two of us not making any money out of Festool. 

So my thoughts are maybe two twinpacks, PSC/PSBC and BHC, and a starter pack, the PDC and PSC/PSBC. TSC and DWC are definitely out of the picture. Importantly we need to add value to the pack, a third battery maybe and some dealer branded promo stuff, I'll keep thinking....

Thank you all for your time and comments.

Best regards

Warren

 

[kmhphoto]

I would have been interested in the PDC and PSC combo but unfortunately I couldn't wait especially as another company had a great deal on the PDC  albeit with the 4.2 batteries and I was able to get the PSC Set version with an extra "free" 5.2 battery.

 

[andyman]

BHC & Carvex I'd be interested

There's a combination I hadn't thought of......ideal compliment to someone who already has a PDC maybe.

Good idea.

Warren,

I think that's a good point - you need to decide who this promotion is going to be aimed at. Is it for those that don't already own a Festool drill & are looking to get into the 18V system, or is it for those that already have a drill & are looking to add to it? The combinations will obviously vary depending on which it is.

Festool dumping the 4.2Ah PDC stock before Christmas has created an extra couple of hundred people in the latter category, so that may be the better/more profitable route. For those people, or those that already have a T18, the BHC and Carvex would be a great combo.

For those that don't have a drill already, then the most likely combo for a 'new user' would be a drill (either the PDC or T18) plus the Carvex.

How many of these packages are you looking to shift in order to make it worthwhile? You don't need to share that with us, but you obviously need to know. Presumably you need to buy all these by the pallet to get the best price from Festool.

Could you offer two packages? The PDC (or T18) & Carvex for those new to Festool 18V, and then the BHC & Carvex for those that already have a drill.

Of course, you then have to decide on barrel grip vs. D handle Barrel grip FTW!!!  [big grin]

FWIW, I don't think the TSC or DWC would really work in a combo; the DWC is too specialised, and the TSC is too pricey & eats batteries, so would most likely be purchased on it's own (plus the combinations of number of batteries & chargers, with/without rail etc. make it far too complicated). The DRC is also out, as the negligible price difference between that & the PDC makes the PDC a no-brainer. I don't know why they even bothered with the DRC tbh. [unsure]

Like mrB said, I also own the PDC and Carvex, and it's a great combo!

Jonny

All very good points, you should have my job, but then there would be two of us not making any money out of Festool. 

So my thoughts are maybe two twinpacks, PSC/PSBC and BHC, and a starter pack, the PDC and PSC/PSBC. TSC and DWC are definitely out of the picture. Importantly we need to add value to the pack, a third battery maybe and some dealer branded promo stuff, I'll keep thinking....

Thank you all for your time and comments.

Best regards

Warren

Any news on this [member=8822]toolfest.co.uk[/member]

 

[toolfest.co.uk]

Hi Andyman

Not yet. I'm fairly sure what we would like to offer, but the stock I have ordered has not arrived. It's on back-order with Festool as they don't have any stock either. As soon as it arrives I'll update. It seems the cordless offerings are selling really well or there just wasn't anywhere near enough stock in the first place.

Best regards

Warren