upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI

[mino]

Well they made a Systainer to fit the saw so I guess that automatically makes it “Systainer-sized” but I don’t think it interlocks with any other Systainers. Seems to be bigger than all of the current lineup.

It clearly is of a standard (M) Systainer size and uses the T-Loc connection mechanism. You can see the catch point on the bottom.

It does not seem to support the Classic "nibs" or Bott rails though. A "pure" T-Loc it seems.

Not that I would want to put such a high thing on the Bott rails .. eh.

 

[Coen]

They should standardize this powertool Bluetooth communication already. Or stop calling it Bluetooth, as it implies cross-brand compatibility, which in this case it does not have.

Well, Bluetooth is a communication protocol. Nothing less, nothing more. It allows any smartphone these days to work with the BT Batteries. No need for a "Festool receiver" to do that.

It is the same as devices trasmitting voice being called "a Phone". It does not mean that the guys using Phones can communicate though. One speaking Mandarin (Makita) will still not understabnd the other speaking Farsi (Festool).

Don't blame the Phone!

You need the "Festool receiver" on the vac. They should have made it open source or at least synced it across tool manufacturers.

Well they made a Systainer to fit the saw so I guess that automatically makes it “Systainer-sized” but I don’t think it interlocks with any other Systainers. Seems to be bigger than all of the current lineup.

It clearly is of a standard (M) Systainer size and uses the T-Loc connection mechanism. You can see the catch point on the bottom.

It does not seem to support the Classic "nibs" or Bott rails though. A "pure" T-Loc it seems.

Not that I would want to put such a high thing on the Bott rails .. eh.

Huh? It does show the Bott-rail recess in the bottom sides.

But you can't get the rails separate here anyway, so your latter problem is solved  [tongue]

 

[guybo]

new @9:10

 

[squall_line]

I love the first part of that video where he asks the rep why his Bluetooth radio isn't working!

Also, I noticed that the MIDI/MINI cordless vacs only have three suction settings: low, medium, high; instead of the 5 settings on the corded versions.

 

[Coen]

I love the first part of that video where he asks the rep why his Bluetooth radio isn't working!

Also, I noticed that the MIDI/MINI cordless vacs only have three suction settings: low, medium, high; instead of the 5 settings on the corded versions.

Yeah they only have the lowest three of the corded version  [tongue]

Honestly, I haven't tried it yet, but even Festool' specs says 3100 L/min and 19 kPa vs 3700 L/min and 24 kPa for the corded version.

 

[Svar]

The sliding table needs to be all the way to the blade. Why? Cutting tapers on narrow pieces, such as chair leg.
Come on, Festool, this is not difficult. There is a number of portable saws with sliding tables, all have the same flaw.

Put an aluminum plate or a ply plate on and there you go?
I guess the top of the table could be extended, but it WILL cut from cut capacity (sic). Maybe just 5mm or so. But it is not free.

It's not the point, one could build a sled for a regular saw. The point is if you bother to integrate a sliding table, do it right.

 

[mino]

The sliding table needs to be all the way to the blade. Why? Cutting tapers on narrow pieces, such as chair leg.
Come on, Festool, this is not difficult. There is a number of portable saws with sliding tables, all have the same flaw.

Put an aluminum plate or a ply plate on and there you go?
I guess the top of the table could be extended, but it WILL cut from cut capacity (sic). Maybe just 5mm or so. But it is not free.

It's not the point, one could build a sled for a regular saw. The point is if you bother to integrate a sliding table, do it right.

Sure, but from the video it can be seen the table could not go all the way to the blade - not without affecting the depth of cut. You can see even the existing table is "in the air" the last two centimeres or so. There is apparently the pivoting assembly blocking the path. It seem they went for "depth of cut" above "doing it right".

IMO that is the right choice.
One can still attach an aluminum plate atop the sliding table. Grinding as few mm to get more cut capacity would be a tad more difficult.


What would interest me is the reason for such a small blade. Me sniffing a physical limitation of what the robotics side could handle.

 

[guybo]

 

[smorgasbord]

Couldn't agree more with Proxxon, while they are very nicely designed tools and they do work well, it's the ludicrous on/off cycle that renders them almost useless!

FWIW, I have the Proxxon 250mm disc sander and it's a reasonable machine. I did have to spend about an hour flattening the adjustable table, which was annoying. It's an aluminum extrusion, so there's nothing machined about it. Bulged up in the middle by the miter slot at least ¼-⅓ mm. It's not one of those powerful disc sanders that you can just push wood hard against like you might a belt sander, but for the fine touch-ups that I use it for it's OK.

 

[guybo]

about 2200 in exchange rate

 

[GavsterUK]

:-X :-Xhttps://www.festool.co.uk/products/new-products/new-products/576820---csc-sys-50

I can genuinely say I've not been as excited to get my hands on a new tool for years.
From what I'm hearing... :-X this is next level.

Stay tuned for a youtube as soon as I'm allowed. [smile]

 

[DynaGlide]

This thing would complement a mobile installer teams main table saw back at the shop nicely. I wish I could justify it but having only room for one jobsite size saw in my shop as it is, I'd have to keep that one for the 10" size and minor dado capabilities in addition to this and that's a no go.

Very cool though. If all you do and will ever do is cabinetry it would likely meet all your needs.

Really curious now what they have cooking for a router table. There's no way they can leave that gap in their lineup for the whole mobile cabinetry image they're going with.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Really curious now what they have cooking for a router table. There's no way they can leave that gap in their lineup for the whole mobile cabinetry image they're going with.

THIS !!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[GavsterUK]

[wink] [wink]

also worth noting its takes same blade as TS60... [cool]

 

[GregorHochschild]

Here is the first official Festool video on the new saw (as far as I know):

 

[GavsterUK]

Scroll down on the link i posted its got the English product video..

 

[woodbutcherbower]

They spent so much on product development and shooting the video that they only had $1.50 budget left to do the music  [crying]

 

[mal_lynam]

Really curious now what they have cooking for a router table. There's no way they can leave that gap in their lineup for the whole mobile cabinetry image they're going with.

THIS !!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^

Sorry but cordless table saw lovely and all that it is, how come in this day and age there's no cordless planer or plans for one that I know off. Seriously.

 

[GoingMyWay]

Here's another Festool video on the saw:

 

[Econoline]

Really curious now what they have cooking for a router table. There's no way they can leave that gap in their lineup for the whole mobile cabinetry image they're going with.

THIS !!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^

Why in the world would Festy abandon the CMS concept, to compete a million other companies making site saws?
If they had asked; I would have said, give us a CMS insert for the HK85. A modular throat plate would have allowed us to use the grooving attachment, albeit with limited depth. The TS 75 CMS insert is awesome, they should have improved on the CMS concept. We're carpenters doing actual site work, not millennials looking for ourselves and digital gizmos...
Festy, you get an F...
E.