upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI

Econoline said:
woodbutcherbower said:
DynaGlide said:
Really curious now what they have cooking for a router table. There's no way they can leave that gap in their lineup for the whole mobile cabinetry image they're going with.

THIS !!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^

Why in the world would Festy abandon the CMS concept, to compete a million other companies making site saws?
If they had asked; I would have said, give us a CMS insert for the HK85. A modular throat plate would have allowed us to use the grooving attachment, albeit with limited depth. The TS 75 CMS insert is awesome, they should have improved on the CMS concept. We're carpenters doing actual site work, not millennials looking for ourselves and digital gizmos...
Festy, you get an F...
E.

Safety regs.  All portable tools have to move to a No-volt release (NVR) switch in the EU, and an NVR switch is not compatible with a remote on-off switch that is at the heart of the CMS system, because you would have to reset the switch on the tool for each activation.
 
It wouldn't matter if the CMS "team" was in the US if all of Festool's offerings ended up receiving an NVR switch during their next redesign; it would completely negate the usability of the CMS system as currently designed.
 
I saw Festool demo video about these this morning. That's when I noticed it was Festool/UK  [unsure]
 
Hopefully by the time it's released I'll have figured a reason to buy it.

I guess the beauty of the battery platform is that it can be released globally a bit easier I should think. Sure it'll be in US in no time.

No doubt also working on a router table with fixed motor to get around NVR requirement.
 
Coen said:
Too much obsession with battery power in my view. Who is this aimed at? Someone doing finish work in a home without utilities??

Reliable power on a job site is hard to come by. Battery powered tools have been a major boon to my productivity. No more waiting around, losing an extension cord, fighting over a quad box, etc. Just working.
 
I must admit I've been secretly enjoying the Festool Quick Guide shorts on using this thing. It certainly does seem very impressive for its size. Quite astonishing that they have fitted all this into a SYS3 M case, albeit a very tall one.

I also saw on the Festool website (UK) that the underframe cart/table is available separately with a RRP of £360.
 
Having now Had some time on this i can confirm it really is a game changer. one of those "ahar" tools.
Accuracy and ease of use is really streets ahead of anything in a similar footprint.
Trying to get a youtube video out this week... ::)
 
Here's a recent video from Festool UK, it's pretty informative. It's actually the Festool Live UK Edition.  [cool]
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Right around the 22-1/2 minute mark they cut through a 18.1 mm piece of wood without harming a 10 pound note.

Interesting, starting around the 25 minute mark they present a ripping contest between the corded CS 50 and the cordless CSC 50 on 45 mm thick ash.
 
Can anyone who is in possession of a CSC SYS tell me the exact height of the saw when it's out of its systainer?

The height that Festool quotes on the product page is 296mm, which is the depth of a systainer. So I'm guessing they're quoting the height of the saw including its systainer "top" (/side).

Anyone know the height once it's out?

Asking for a friend. Can't justify buying it for myself  [wink]

 
ElectricFeet said:
Can anyone who is in possession of a CSC SYS tell me the exact height of the saw when it's out of its systainer?

The height that Festool quotes on the product page is 296mm, which is the depth of a systainer. So I'm guessing they're quoting the height of the saw including its systainer "top" (/side).

Anyone know the height once it's out?

Asking for a friend. Can't justify buying it for myself  [wink]

I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't 900mm: the same height as the MFT, Kapex on a UG stand, CMS table, MW 1000, etc.
 
squall_line said:
ElectricFeet said:
Can anyone who is in possession of a CSC SYS tell me the exact height of the saw when it's out of its systainer?

The height that Festool quotes on the product page is 296mm, which is the depth of a systainer. So I'm guessing they're quoting the height of the saw including its systainer "top" (/side).

Anyone know the height once it's out?

Asking for a friend. Can't justify buying it for myself  [wink]

I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't 900mm: the same height as the MFT, Kapex on a UG stand, CMS table, MW 1000, etc.

Should have been more clear. I mean the height of the saw itself, not the height of the saw when it's on its optional underframe.
 
This machine was just shown to a bunch of makers at an event at Festool USA's HQ last week. That bodes well for the US market for folks who want it...and it really is a pretty kewel little saw.
 
Working height of saw on under frame is 900mm. The product page of the under frame says its working height is 677mm. Therefore the height of the saw itself is 223mm. (Plus the feet that sit in a recess in the under frame.)
 
While reading about this new saw I realized that the 202479 battery, BP 18 Li 5,2 AS-ASI is no longer available.

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It is being replaced with the 577661 battery, BP 18 Li 5,0 ASI to be released in the spring of 2023. I wonder what's going on?

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Here they both are to compare.

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