i hate the anticipation, let the beast loose, we need these tools here, not next year, now!!!!!!! i'm already chirping in my brother in-laws ear about getting me some stuff from UK (tablesaw and other goodies not available here) i just don't know how to trust him with my money as he isn't the most honest person in the world. I'm running out of things to buy and the money is piling up so release the tools or my wife is going to find the stash and make it dissapear on her so called neccessites.
..::UPDATED::..New Festool C15, C12 and CARVEX
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Michael Kellough
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Patience is a virtue. When we were at training, Christian explained the tool development process briefly to us. If I remember correctly, the development process is at least three years or greater in length. Of course with our electrical service being different than other countries and our UL listing hurdles there are additional development issues to deal with.
Christian has written here that this will be an exciting year. So who knows what's in store.
Peter
Christian has written here that this will be an exciting year. So who knows what's in store.
Peter
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HowardH said:
Maybe there is some voodoo magic that will turn the vac on, even with the cordless jig saw. [big grin]
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Maybe they are going with bluetooth and Festool's own ipod dock
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Simply put.
And, this is tragic
I have made more money with the fleet of 3 gravelys and two snowblowers,
(donated) Stop, 3 blowers Honda, bobcat and yes a Craftsman....
A few unemployed neighborhood young adults........
Then I did on the shaper and the drawing board.
Folks, you do what you have to do.
If y'all thing the dream of being a independent carpenter and being successful...
Crap, that's like hitting the lottery.
Like your portfolio, (mine contains kindergarten art work from my children) worth more then
the hedge fund from Madoff,
Crimeny....
Let me explain
I haven't been here because I have been in the salt mines.
Barely keeping afloat.
And, I feel it would be wrong to Boo shirt on a internet forum,
with out the work to back it up.
Per
And, this is tragic
I have made more money with the fleet of 3 gravelys and two snowblowers,
(donated) Stop, 3 blowers Honda, bobcat and yes a Craftsman....
A few unemployed neighborhood young adults........
Then I did on the shaper and the drawing board.
Folks, you do what you have to do.
If y'all thing the dream of being a independent carpenter and being successful...
Crap, that's like hitting the lottery.
Like your portfolio, (mine contains kindergarten art work from my children) worth more then
the hedge fund from Madoff,
Crimeny....
Let me explain
I haven't been here because I have been in the salt mines.
Barely keeping afloat.
And, I feel it would be wrong to Boo shirt on a internet forum,
with out the work to back it up.
Per
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Howard
Unless you need a cordless jigsaw there is no reason to have one, when you need one you are willing to switch over to what ever tool company that provides the goods. A clunky DeWalt 18v just replaced my Trion in my Window abatement kit. Is it a better tool? well YES! It's better because it makes me more $$$. would i switch to the carvex you bet.
Unless you need a cordless jigsaw there is no reason to have one, when you need one you are willing to switch over to what ever tool company that provides the goods. A clunky DeWalt 18v just replaced my Trion in my Window abatement kit. Is it a better tool? well YES! It's better because it makes me more $$$. would i switch to the carvex you bet.
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Charimon,
You have work in Omaha?
Nebraska?
Typical snobbish response ... just how many house's are there in Nebraska?
Six?
God bless ya.
Though I think I will stick to the Master plan, Hawaii.
Homeless and warm has a nice ring to it.
Per
You have work in Omaha?
Nebraska?
Typical snobbish response ... just how many house's are there in Nebraska?
Six?
God bless ya.
Though I think I will stick to the Master plan, Hawaii.
Homeless and warm has a nice ring to it.
Per
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hey Per [smile]
Omaha NE is EPA's largest lead abatement superfund site. Union Pacific and ASARCo American Smelting And Refining Company make good messes [thumbs up]. Got my lead abatement supervisor license and am pulling double hung windows at 9 deg F (Hawaii is sounding so good), for a environmental contractor firm. It is a big change from doing high end tile, but it is a sure thing. It is weird to work to "standards" that are way under the fit and finish i am used to preforming, but as long as the inspectors are happy, Owner's rarely complain about a house full of Free (to them) windows. The super fund cleanup alone is $80M per year for the next 15 let alone all the other programs.
Craig
I hope things pickup for you ...... you can always make a trip out middle come spring if you want.
Omaha NE is EPA's largest lead abatement superfund site. Union Pacific and ASARCo American Smelting And Refining Company make good messes [thumbs up]. Got my lead abatement supervisor license and am pulling double hung windows at 9 deg F (Hawaii is sounding so good), for a environmental contractor firm. It is a big change from doing high end tile, but it is a sure thing. It is weird to work to "standards" that are way under the fit and finish i am used to preforming, but as long as the inspectors are happy, Owner's rarely complain about a house full of Free (to them) windows. The super fund cleanup alone is $80M per year for the next 15 let alone all the other programs.
Craig
I hope things pickup for you ...... you can always make a trip out middle come spring if you want.
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Char,
Never in my career Have I had to struggle for a dollar.
Gift of gab then talent, until now.
Sir, when I was 14, I sold four thousand door stops.
In Lincoln towers NYC.
Cut em out on daddy's band saw, dyed em with Behlens, which was located on Christopher street at the time.
And if you go here you can understand where I come from, www.lincolntowers.com
The doors on the terraces would simply blow off with the wind.
See some of yall have a perfectionist view of wood working.
I don't.
I see it as a ends to a means.
Forget esoterica. Non sense.
Show me a honest way to make more money then the next guy.
I'll bite.
It all comes down to being able to charge a fair price in a competitive market.
If with a initial investment of the proper tools and the education of those using them.
Then form follows function,
and from that we derive art.
Per
Never in my career Have I had to struggle for a dollar.
Gift of gab then talent, until now.
Sir, when I was 14, I sold four thousand door stops.
In Lincoln towers NYC.
Cut em out on daddy's band saw, dyed em with Behlens, which was located on Christopher street at the time.
And if you go here you can understand where I come from, www.lincolntowers.com
The doors on the terraces would simply blow off with the wind.
See some of yall have a perfectionist view of wood working.
I don't.
I see it as a ends to a means.
Forget esoterica. Non sense.
Show me a honest way to make more money then the next guy.
I'll bite.
It all comes down to being able to charge a fair price in a competitive market.
If with a initial investment of the proper tools and the education of those using them.
Then form follows function,
and from that we derive art.
Per
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I don't mind you asking,
Lets say in 1972 dollars........
I had enough to buy what ever I pleased.
But, you are missing the point.
Upper West side Manhattan privileged.
gawd given right to succeed.
I sneered at the phoniness then, I sneer at the con now.
( I got 2 bucks a stop).
Go ahead think, you could buy a Hemi '70 'Cuda for $2500 at the time.
Somewhere along the way, I began to understand it wasn't the taking that mattered.
It was the giving.
First the Jesuits, then the sisters of Saint Hilda's and Saint Hugh's,
They taught me a concept that both Machiavelli and Sun Tsu failed to grasp.
Kindness is the most powerful tool on earth.
Per
Lets say in 1972 dollars........
I had enough to buy what ever I pleased.
But, you are missing the point.
Upper West side Manhattan privileged.
gawd given right to succeed.
I sneered at the phoniness then, I sneer at the con now.
( I got 2 bucks a stop).
Go ahead think, you could buy a Hemi '70 'Cuda for $2500 at the time.
Somewhere along the way, I began to understand it wasn't the taking that mattered.
It was the giving.
First the Jesuits, then the sisters of Saint Hilda's and Saint Hugh's,
They taught me a concept that both Machiavelli and Sun Tsu failed to grasp.
Kindness is the most powerful tool on earth.
Per
English Link to the IF site: http://www.ifdesign.de/exhibition_index_e?sprache=1&award_id=191&search=festool&any_cat=1&award_name=iF%20product%20design%20award&pagemode=awards&offset=0&result_count=5
Descriptions
c12/c15
The new C 15 Li / C 12 Li power screwdriver is the successor of the classic ?C 12?. It appeals with its cohesive and therefore very sturdy, short design that protects the hand. Thanks to its clip that can be used on either side, it is always ready for action. It is no longer assigned to a voltage class, but to a class defined by the interplay of power and intelligence. ?EC motor technology? guarantees improved performance. In addition, long-lasting battery packs with modern ?lithium-ion technology? assure easy handling that allow all this power to be used comfortably and efficiently over extended periods of time.
Carvex psc 400
The new ?CARVEX PSC 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its strongly waisted saddle grip. On and off switches on both sides improve handling below the worktop. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system with lithium-ion battery, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the integration into the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Carvex psbc 400
The new ?CARVEX PSBC 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its hand grip with the actuating switch. But in case of handling below the worktop, it can also be guided by the saddle grip and operated with the on and off switches on both sides. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system with lithium-ion battery, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Carvex ps 400
The new ?CARVEX PS 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its strongly waisted saddle grip. On and off switches on both sides improve handling below the worktop. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Automatic strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the integration into the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Carvex psb 400
The new ?CARVEX PSB 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its hand grip with the actuating switch. But in case of handling below the worktop, it can also be guided by the saddle grip and operated with the on and off switches on both sides. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the integration into the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Beautiful tools!
Descriptions
c12/c15
The new C 15 Li / C 12 Li power screwdriver is the successor of the classic ?C 12?. It appeals with its cohesive and therefore very sturdy, short design that protects the hand. Thanks to its clip that can be used on either side, it is always ready for action. It is no longer assigned to a voltage class, but to a class defined by the interplay of power and intelligence. ?EC motor technology? guarantees improved performance. In addition, long-lasting battery packs with modern ?lithium-ion technology? assure easy handling that allow all this power to be used comfortably and efficiently over extended periods of time.
Carvex psc 400
The new ?CARVEX PSC 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its strongly waisted saddle grip. On and off switches on both sides improve handling below the worktop. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system with lithium-ion battery, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the integration into the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Carvex psbc 400
The new ?CARVEX PSBC 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its hand grip with the actuating switch. But in case of handling below the worktop, it can also be guided by the saddle grip and operated with the on and off switches on both sides. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system with lithium-ion battery, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Carvex ps 400
The new ?CARVEX PS 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its strongly waisted saddle grip. On and off switches on both sides improve handling below the worktop. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Automatic strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the integration into the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Carvex psb 400
The new ?CARVEX PSB 400? is extremely easy to operate thanks to its hand grip with the actuating switch. But in case of handling below the worktop, it can also be guided by the saddle grip and operated with the on and off switches on both sides. Thanks to ?EC motor technology? and an innovative, patented new drive system, it is 40% more effective and 30% lighter than conventional machines. For enhanced safety, the blade stops in 0.5 seconds or less and moves to the highest position. Strobe-effect lighting improves the view of the blade and marking line significantly. Thanks to the integration into the ?CARVEX system?, it is extremely flexible and versatile.
Beautiful tools!
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So that answers one question - I did wonder where the on/off switch was on the barrel grip versions:
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I thought this was it at first, but discounted it since it also appeared on the D handle version. So, that is the switch, and there's one on the other side too (I think it was Christian O who posted recently about new tools being designed for use in either hand!).
So on the D handle version you have a choice of 3 on/off switches!
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I thought this was it at first, but discounted it since it also appeared on the D handle version. So, that is the switch, and there's one on the other side too (I think it was Christian O who posted recently about new tools being designed for use in either hand!).
So on the D handle version you have a choice of 3 on/off switches!
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Just noticed this on the Festool UK website:
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I'm just wondering if this is the UK launch of all these products?
As it happens, I'm travelling down to the Birmingham NEC on the 21st March for a couple of shows - Axminster's Nuneaton shop is only 20 minutes drive from the NEC, so now I'm wondering about going down a day earlier instead....
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I'm just wondering if this is the UK launch of all these products?
As it happens, I'm travelling down to the Birmingham NEC on the 21st March for a couple of shows - Axminster's Nuneaton shop is only 20 minutes drive from the NEC, so now I'm wondering about going down a day earlier instead....
I wonder what UL will have to say about a strobe light feature on a North American model? I remember using a strobe light in physics class to visually slow down a fan blade so as to count the revolutions. I can imagine that visually slowing down the cutting action of a blade while in reality the blade is still cutting at a higher rate might set some hair on end if there aren't other safeguards in place.
Peter
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Peter,
I don't think that will be an issue - we don't know yet exactly how the 'strobe' light will be used, but I don't believe for one second that Festool will have ignored any possible safety implications.
I don't think that will be an issue - we don't know yet exactly how the 'strobe' light will be used, but I don't believe for one second that Festool will have ignored any possible safety implications.
Johnny,
Good points!
Peter
Good points!
Peter
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jonny round boy said:
It doesn't matter what Festool thinks is safe. They also think, like the rest of the world, that the CMS system is safe. UL somehow thinks differently.
