Very disappointed

[Corwin]

[JD]  I am a social scientist commenting on what I see here.  In some cases I'm being sarcastic and poking fun, and in others I'm adding critical thought instead of blindly waving any brand festooned flag. I find it interesting that many don't view the contents of my posts with an open mind, but instead look at them as attacks or baiting.  It is all very interesting.

Regards,

It's just that repeating your points OVER AND OVER, like you're doing us some great service has become boorish at best.

    ... maybe that's because we're missing his point(s) all the time.    [blink]

 

[Corwin]

[JD]  I am a social scientist commenting on what I see here.  In some cases I'm being sarcastic and poking fun, and in others I'm adding critical thought instead of blindly waving any brand festooned flag. I find it interesting that many don't view the contents of my posts with an open mind, but instead look at them as attacks or baiting.  It is all very interesting.

Regards,

It's just that repeating your points OVER AND OVER, like you're doing us some great service has become boorish at best.

     ... maybe that's because we're missing his point(s) all the time.    [blink]

    ... maybe that's because we're missing his point(s) all the time.    [blink]

 

[JohnDistai]

Just look at your earlier statement "Now let the flames begin".

Based on the pack-type behavior seen in the past, that was the expected response.  And was I wrong?

 

[JohnDistai]

...
[JD]  I am a social scientist commenting on what I see here.  In some cases I'm being sarcastic and poking fun, and in others I'm adding critical thought instead of blindly waving any brand festooned flag. I find it interesting that many don't view the contents of my posts with an open mind, but instead look at them as attacks or baiting.  It is all very interesting.

John,

If you are "social scientist", then you know the impact of stirring the pot.   And you should know the impact of words, especially "hot words" - words whose sole purpose is to evoke an emotional response.  
[JD] I'm not sure I understand what hot words you are referring to.  While it may sound like I am playing with you, I seriously don't know which words you are considering "hot".

Like Frank, I perused your last dozen or so posts in other threads.   I found most of your comments "pithy", perhaps even "crisp".  
[JD] I'll take that as a compliment.  Thanks!

That's just peachy keen, but as a "social scientist", you should be aware that your "sarcasm and poking fun" will be ill-received in the wrong venue.   When people want information and help, "sarcasm and poking fun" is considered very rude.  I'm surprised that you don't understand this, considering that you're a "social scientist".  You don't want to be considered rude, do you?

[JD] Just because I'm a social scientist doesn't mean I have "social skills".  If you are familiar with the show "The Big Bang Theory", I'm like Sheldon.

In any case, I won't be responding to you any further.  While I find this conversation just super-duper scintillating, I need to toddle off to beddie-bye and get my beauty rest.   And I can't chat tomorrow either because I'll be saving the world for the evils of non-Festool tools.

Have an ever-so-nice evening,

Dan.

 

[JohnDistai]

Stop fashioning yourself as a revolutionary, standing on the ramparts with a broken bourbon bottle in your hand fighting the great battle against whomever/whatever.

I do have to say Bob, although this was intended as an insult to me, I do commend you for your very creative and descriptive visual.

 

[RONWEN]

www.talkfestool.com

Inner,

talkFestool is NOT one of the "other" places.   Like FOG, we welcome honest dissension and differences of opinion.  Many FOG members are also talkFestool members.  Both forums share the same enthusiasm for good quality tools.   And our members, like FOG members are protective of our forum.    

To be blunt, talkFestool is NOT a forum for Festool or FOG bashing.  We try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but if someone acts like a troll, they're gone.

Thanks for clearing that up Dan, we don't need any flamers over there either.  Anyone that has followed this forum awhile clearly understands what a nice job the Festool guys have done in turning it around into a good information sharing forum.  By the way, I only worship one and I'm quite sure he's not a member of this forum.  However, I do believe that the Festool guys have in some respects done us a "favor" with the quality they have brought to this forum.

 

[Michael Kellough]

John, you'd fit right in at this site,

http://www.woodworkingsense.com/

It's run by Nickao65. You seem to be kindred spirits...

 

[CumminsDiesel]

Guys,guys,slow down  [smile].Sorry,I change my mind.I'm going to buy a Kapex!Thats my choice.Thank you!   
         

P.S.  How is CT Mini works with Kapex?Should I buy CT 22 or CT Mini is enough.(So sorry for my negative comments.)

 

[bionicus]

The Mini will work but you'll want the 36mm hose to use with the Kapex if you're concerned about maximizing dust collection. Consider that the CT 22 comes with the 36mm hose as standard whereas the Mini does not -- it only comes with the smaller 27mm. Once you factor in the cost of buying an additional 36mm hose for the Mini you might just want to buy the CT 22 instead and take advantage of its increased power, larger capacity, hepa filtration, etc.

Edit: Whoops. I gave bad info. All CTs come standard with the 27mm antistatic hose.

 

[CumminsDiesel]

The Mini will work but you'll want the 36mm hose to use with the Kapex if you're concerned about maximizing dust collection. Consider that the CT 22 comes with the 36mm hose as standard whereas the Mini does not -- it only comes with the smaller 27mm. Once you factor in the cost of buying an additional 36mm hose for the Mini you might just want to buy the CT 22 instead and take advantage of its increased power, larger capacity, hepa filtration, etc.

Thank you so much!

 

[mouppe]

I think the CT22 comes with a 27mm hose but I would go for the 22 over the mini anyway.

Richard.

 

[justinmcf]

the ct-22 comes standard with the 27mm anti-static hose.
for a small amount more money, you can ask the dealer to exchange the 27mm hose for the 36mm anti-static hose.
thats what i did and i am very happy.

i use a 36mm hose with the kapex and that is the best setup for sure.
i have used the 36mm hose for sanding and it worked fine, however, i have found while sanding in awkward positions such as upside down (sanding ceilings), the 27mm hose is a little more flexible.

i would highly recommend the ct-22. the midi and mini are just too small for my own needs. however i do understand every bodies needs are different.

regards, justin.

 

[wnagle]

Justin,

How did you attach the 36mm hose to the sanders?

 

[justinmcf]

hi wayne, i connect the sanders to a 36mm hose using a anti static reducing sleeve, 487 071.
it fits snugly inside the 36mm fitting. i have also used a little duct tape when worried about it slipping out.

hope this helps, justin.

 

[justinmcf]

after reading a few of these posts regarding johndistai, i reckon he would be a great bloke to have a beer with, however.....

i reckon we are being taken for a ride here.
the man is a "social scientist". so more than likely we, the forum, are being used for one of his social experiments.
i wish you all the best john, but you will not be hearing from me again.
goodbye and good luck mate.

regards, justin.

 

[jonny round boy]

If you are familiar with the show "The Big Bang Theory", I'm like Sheldon.

I couldn't disagree more. Sheldon is hilarious, whereas you most definitely are not.

I too have found your posts (generally) to be disruptive, rude, and annoying in the extreme. Maybe you have posted some constructive things in between, but I can't remember any offhand. Like Bob I have not responded before, but now seems like the right time...

 

[chrisrosenb]

Guys,guys,slow down  [smile].Sorry,I change my mind.I'm going to buy a Kapex!Thats my choice.Thank you!   
           

P.S.  How is CT Mini works with Kapex?Should I buy CT 22 or CT Mini is enough.(So sorry for my negative comments.)

The CT Mini will work as I have used the Mini with the Kapex out on job sites. As others have stated, use a 36mm hose.
The only problem with the Mini is that the bag fills up very quickly. I use a CT33 with the Kapex most of the time.

 

[Bob Marino]

I would also agree with others recommending the CT 22 or 33 over the smaller vacs - for reasons already mentioned.

  Bob

 

[Holzhacker]

Post #68 by Christian is one of the reasons this forum works and succeeds so well. It is that Christian/Festool attitude that allows us to discuss and criticize Festool products openly on this forum. If Festool's were not as great as they are, this forum would not be possible for any length of time. Due to lack of quality and service many other manufacturer's could not handle such a forum. As much as I love to bash the Kapex, I am also happy to praise the virtues of a $600 T15.
For the newcomers or lurkers thinking about buying Festool products, these are great tools. Not every tool suits everyones needs. That should not detract from the overall product line though.
I can attest that Christian is not being rude or arrogant, even though it may come off like that. He's just being German. I get it all the time. My wife reminds me sometimes, 'stop being so German'. I don't notice it.
I have pretty good relationships with my suppliers. If there is a problem with a tool, I can usually get satisfactory resolution fairly quickly. I don't know what planet some of the tool exchange policies mentioned by other(s) are happening on. Supply houses, maybe. Big box stores, I don't think so.

 

[Dane]

Given the relatively low-level social science theory that the "social scientist" has brought into the discussion, I am going to guess that he has a bachelor's degree in social psychology from a mid-level university and has some sort of personality disorder that leads him to use that dubious level of scientific education to justify acting like a brat.  Real scientists conduct experiments with methodology and emotional distance.  Social pariahs use whatever excuse they can do get attention in whatever venue they can manage to do it.

There are plenty of us floating around the FOG with advanced degrees, yet you will notice that no one else goes about dropping titles to make a point.  That is generally because most of us act like reasonable adults and not borderline sociopaths.  The need to state one's expertise in defense of a breach of decorum is usually the result of some inferiority complex related to one's actual lack education or expertise.  It's the intellectual equivalent of small man's disease.  The only way to deal with it is to ignore it.

Might I suggest that the "social scientist" be ignored for the good of the forum and so we can steer back to talking about tools?