Cheese
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Coen said:
Thanks for that... [smile] I guess I'll pass and just put the Festool jigsaws down the road. I also get nervous when something becomes discontinued because of possible future needs.
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Thanks for that... [smile] I guess I'll pass and just put the Festool jigsaws down the road. I also get nervous when something becomes discontinued because of possible future needs.
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Bosch used to sell this jigsaw stand aka inversion table.
It works great with Bosch saws. They have slots at the back of the shoe which engage tabs in the table so just one screw clamp (included )needs to be tightened to secure the tool. Another included clamp secures the table to a bench.
It’s great for cutting small stuff that you need to see clearly and since an ordinary blade pulls the swarf below the surface the marks on the workpiece are not obscured.
Wolfcraft made a generic version in stamped steel which uses four J shaped hold downs and screws to secure whatever jigsaw.
It works great with Bosch saws. They have slots at the back of the shoe which engage tabs in the table so just one screw clamp (included )needs to be tightened to secure the tool. Another included clamp secures the table to a bench.
It’s great for cutting small stuff that you need to see clearly and since an ordinary blade pulls the swarf below the surface the marks on the workpiece are not obscured.
Wolfcraft made a generic version in stamped steel which uses four J shaped hold downs and screws to secure whatever jigsaw.
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Just a few thoughts about the CMS MOD BS 120 that I missed getting... I noticed that for a periode when the MFS was announced discontinued in the states, many went out of their way to get the template system. Now over two years after it's plentiful and easy to get a hold of in the EU. and the UK, so maybe that will be the case with the CMS system as well. I for one vote for the CMS system continues to be sold as is and gets expanded even. It's light and easily transportable and stores easily. The CMS tabel elements er impervious to rust mostly.
As for the MOD BS 120 unit, it's list price has been high all along and that makes it hard to justify for casual use. If it remains scarce and I have the jobs where stationary Beltsander is needed I'd probably go for the Axminster Trade AT150BS Belt Sander seems like a worthy contestant for that function in my shop. It has serious specs and is more useful in that it can be used both horizontally and vertically. The table can be tilted and is substantially built. The footprint of the machine would match the CMS GE where I could just as well build a self made stand for Axminster beltsander or just camp it to a workbench.
As for the MOD BS 120 unit, it's list price has been high all along and that makes it hard to justify for casual use. If it remains scarce and I have the jobs where stationary Beltsander is needed I'd probably go for the Axminster Trade AT150BS Belt Sander seems like a worthy contestant for that function in my shop. It has serious specs and is more useful in that it can be used both horizontally and vertically. The table can be tilted and is substantially built. The footprint of the machine would match the CMS GE where I could just as well build a self made stand for Axminster beltsander or just camp it to a workbench.
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[member=44099]Cheese[/member] - I think you should give the jig saw insert a chance if you’re curious.
They can be had from eBay. Now having both VL and GE tables I think the CMS-VL MFT/3 is better for CMS-OF (It is wider and therefore can accommodate for example UG wings from Kapex, or extension table from MW1000 to serve as outfeed table (GE table is too short, with fences going wider than the length of GE table))
And the CMS-GE would suit the jig saw and TS modules. Both these, and maybe especially the CMS-PS 300 are perfect in the VL table. If one removes the jig saw blade it doubles as a widened workspace. I’m having a go with a small customisation tomorrow with the CMS-PS 300 (not the module itself) I’ll post tomorrow if I can get at it [smile]
For me, i foresee the convenient use of this for small cuts normally best done on a band saw (which I don’t have, yet) but not needed. It will be very handy to just put in a saw blade and go - the table just sits there...
They can be had from eBay. Now having both VL and GE tables I think the CMS-VL MFT/3 is better for CMS-OF (It is wider and therefore can accommodate for example UG wings from Kapex, or extension table from MW1000 to serve as outfeed table (GE table is too short, with fences going wider than the length of GE table))
And the CMS-GE would suit the jig saw and TS modules. Both these, and maybe especially the CMS-PS 300 are perfect in the VL table. If one removes the jig saw blade it doubles as a widened workspace. I’m having a go with a small customisation tomorrow with the CMS-PS 300 (not the module itself) I’ll post tomorrow if I can get at it [smile]
For me, i foresee the convenient use of this for small cuts normally best done on a band saw (which I don’t have, yet) but not needed. It will be very handy to just put in a saw blade and go - the table just sits there...
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A SYS³ ORG M with 22 partitions, 204853.
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Bott manufactures the containers. Notice what I assume to be a label slot on 2 sides of each box. Bott probably provides labels that will slide into the slots. A nice touch. [big grin]
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A Systainer attaches nicely to the top of the SYS³.
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However, not so nicely to the bottom of the SYS³ which will probably be the normal mode. [sad] [sad] I can't imagine the sound that a van full of these interconnected Systainers will be making as the handles are swinging and banging over bumps and around corners.
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So I took a handful of #4 lock washers that are .014" thick and placed them in a single Bott box.
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I closed the lid, turned the SYS³ upside down and vigorously shook it in all directions 30 times. Not even one of the thin washers left the container. You can see several of them resting on the upper ledge of the Bott box but none left their home. [big grin] [big grin]
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Bott manufactures the containers. Notice what I assume to be a label slot on 2 sides of each box. Bott probably provides labels that will slide into the slots. A nice touch. [big grin]
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A Systainer attaches nicely to the top of the SYS³.
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However, not so nicely to the bottom of the SYS³ which will probably be the normal mode. [sad] [sad] I can't imagine the sound that a van full of these interconnected Systainers will be making as the handles are swinging and banging over bumps and around corners.
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So I took a handful of #4 lock washers that are .014" thick and placed them in a single Bott box.
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I closed the lid, turned the SYS³ upside down and vigorously shook it in all directions 30 times. Not even one of the thin washers left the container. You can see several of them resting on the upper ledge of the Bott box but none left their home. [big grin] [big grin]
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Cheese
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FestitaMakool said:
Thanks for that... [smile] They're not yet on the Festool USA website. [sad]
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Probably will follow soon with the SYS3 ORG
Actually, the very last one M size I bought from a Swedish dealer, I noticed these lying in a pile on the floor - asked if these were meant for the new SYS3 ORG M and L
They didn’t even think of suggesting them to me when I had picked all the insert sizes and their last M size case.. sooo.. maybe their meant “to be discovered” [big grin]
Actually, the very last one M size I bought from a Swedish dealer, I noticed these lying in a pile on the floor - asked if these were meant for the new SYS3 ORG M and L
They didn’t even think of suggesting them to me when I had picked all the insert sizes and their last M size case.. sooo.. maybe their meant “to be discovered” [big grin]
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Gregor said:
You probably have to eat them or sit in a room breathing the fumes of them burning to get hurt !
Peter
I suspect that warning is now also included on tubes of latex caulking. Go read one.
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The State of California is completely going overboard these days with their concerns and warnings. If they are so concerned why not forbid these chemicals to be used? They can't, society would collapse.
Is there a chemical these days that isn't found to be dangerous in some way? Some people have died from drinking water. Is our chemical problem going to be solved by simply adding a warning label ? No.
It would require severe government regulation to achieve that. But they can't, because suddenly people wouldn't be able to make all those wonderful things we make and revert back to a medieval level of technology.
[member=53905]Gregor[/member], the chemicals that warning is about are found in EVERY piece of plastic inside your home. You should be more concerned about that bottle with water or cola you drink than about a box for your screws.
Is there a chemical these days that isn't found to be dangerous in some way? Some people have died from drinking water. Is our chemical problem going to be solved by simply adding a warning label ? No.
It would require severe government regulation to achieve that. But they can't, because suddenly people wouldn't be able to make all those wonderful things we make and revert back to a medieval level of technology.
[member=53905]Gregor[/member], the chemicals that warning is about are found in EVERY piece of plastic inside your home. You should be more concerned about that bottle with water or cola you drink than about a box for your screws.
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Alex said:
State of California warnings are so ubiquitous these days that everyone just ignores them. To me it sounds like warnings that too much sitting on a plane is a stroke risk. Or maybe like all the warnings on ads for prescription meds. You don't stop flying, you take other precautions like making sure that you get up couple of times during the flight. Or you take the meds, but keep a watch out for the evil side effects. If these risks weren't manageable, why would California allow you to use it at all? This is CYA stuff so that lawyers can't sue the companies that make the products on the grounds that they didn't tell you things could go wrong. You've been warned - now go out there and buy some more Systainers. But now that you've been warned, you can't sue Festool if you get cancer unless you can show that they were grossly negligent with regard to describing the risks.
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Of 1400 router and LR 32 system set.
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I ordered the Mobile Workshop 1000 today.
But that's just today. I've got the LR 32 hole 55" rail on order. (I'm wondering why Festool even makes the same-length rails without holes, but that's a gripe for another thread.)
Newbie here. First post on the forum. I've been lurking here and buying Festools since only last November when I was remodeling an old house to become a rental, where there were plenty of straight lines but absolutely NOTHING had a square corner to it, so the TS 55 and rail were completely the perfect solution. Well, for that reason as well as that my circular saw at the time was my father's 1970's Craftsman that was shooting sparks from the motor housing every time the electronic brake engaged. Super powerful saw, but... not so safe in that old house. Plus I was spending way too much time setting up jigs to get the old dog to cut along the line I wanted.
Anyhoo -- I'm apparently addicted now. No question. Oh yeah, I also bought a CT Midi 1 so I wouldn't come home all covered in sawdust, Azek, styrofoam, everything. That was another point of bliss.
I'm prepping for another house remodel, doing even more of the work myself this time, and I'm starting with nearly zero tools.
In the last couple months I've bought:
MFT/3
1400 router (Last week; I haven't even set it up yet)
ETS/3 sander (and a whole lotta paper. OMG this sander is fantastic.)
clamps, rail guides, etc. (some of which is great, some of which is really not)
So here's the real addiction -- I really really like that Sys3 case above. (Thanks for the photos!!) Puts my stack of Stanley parts organizers to shame.
And in my workshop I'm staring at my pile of stupid tool bags and blow-molded cases, thinking "ugh what a disaster" and wondering if I can hold off long enough for the Systainer3 stuff so I can build my shelf units mostly with Bott rails instead of drawers. (But where are those rails anyway? They seem to be vaporware.)
So there y'go. Another person hooked.
And I need a bigger workshop. But who doesn't? [big grin]
Cheers,
Peter
But that's just today. I've got the LR 32 hole 55" rail on order. (I'm wondering why Festool even makes the same-length rails without holes, but that's a gripe for another thread.)
Newbie here. First post on the forum. I've been lurking here and buying Festools since only last November when I was remodeling an old house to become a rental, where there were plenty of straight lines but absolutely NOTHING had a square corner to it, so the TS 55 and rail were completely the perfect solution. Well, for that reason as well as that my circular saw at the time was my father's 1970's Craftsman that was shooting sparks from the motor housing every time the electronic brake engaged. Super powerful saw, but... not so safe in that old house. Plus I was spending way too much time setting up jigs to get the old dog to cut along the line I wanted.
Anyhoo -- I'm apparently addicted now. No question. Oh yeah, I also bought a CT Midi 1 so I wouldn't come home all covered in sawdust, Azek, styrofoam, everything. That was another point of bliss.
I'm prepping for another house remodel, doing even more of the work myself this time, and I'm starting with nearly zero tools.
In the last couple months I've bought:
MFT/3
1400 router (Last week; I haven't even set it up yet)
ETS/3 sander (and a whole lotta paper. OMG this sander is fantastic.)
clamps, rail guides, etc. (some of which is great, some of which is really not)
So here's the real addiction -- I really really like that Sys3 case above. (Thanks for the photos!!) Puts my stack of Stanley parts organizers to shame.
And in my workshop I'm staring at my pile of stupid tool bags and blow-molded cases, thinking "ugh what a disaster" and wondering if I can hold off long enough for the Systainer3 stuff so I can build my shelf units mostly with Bott rails instead of drawers. (But where are those rails anyway? They seem to be vaporware.)
So there y'go. Another person hooked.
And I need a bigger workshop. But who doesn't? [big grin]
Cheers,
Peter
Cheese
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A rebating head, router/spindle attachment & an extra set of replaceable carbide inserts. This item can be used on a 1400 or 2200 router for rebating or jointing. The rebating head is machined from aluminum.
The interesting thing is that for all of those folks that question the power of the 1010 router...this rebating head was originally designed to be used in a 1010 router. The head is 50 mm in diameter and 30 mm tall.
The router/spindle attachment for the 1400 & 2200 routers was released after the fact. [huh]
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The interesting thing is that for all of those folks that question the power of the 1010 router...this rebating head was originally designed to be used in a 1010 router. The head is 50 mm in diameter and 30 mm tall.
The router/spindle attachment for the 1400 & 2200 routers was released after the fact. [huh]
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