which Festool would you pay double for?

woodguy7 said:
Totally agree John.  To many people are reliant on power tools.  I'm with you, I use hand tools much more than power tools.  When my apprentice first started working for me he thought I was joking when I said he couldn't use the Kapex for finishings !  He was under no illusions that he had to be competent with hand tools first.

Woodguy.

[big grin] My last apprentice thought i was joking when i said you have to hang a fire door by yourself, he could just to say lift  them up....I always made him use hand tools, apart from a cordless drill (i couldn't be that cruel) He could of took his eyes out with a Yankee screwdriver....  

John..
 
neth27 said:
woodguy7 said:
Totally agree John.  To many people are reliant on power tools.  I'm with you, I use hand tools much more than power tools.  When my apprentice first started working for me he thought I was joking when I said he couldn't use the Kapex for finishings !  He was under no illusions that he had to be competent with hand tools first.

Woodguy.

[big grin] My last apprentice thought i was joking when i said you have to hang a fire door by yourself, he could just to say lift  them up....I always made him use hand tools, apart from a cordless drill (i couldn't be that cruel) He could of took his eyes out with a Yankee screwdriver....  

John..

Mentors are cruel haaha

My mentor when I was an apprentice made me rip a couple of sheets  18mm 8x4 plywood down the middle the first week I started and then I had to cover a very large area of flooring with plywood ...hall way, lounge, dinning room  all with plywood and I had to use hand saw only!  lots of cutting! My arm was killing!  Also doing some floor joist had to notch all joists top and bottom all by hand 32 of them so they could sit in the rsj flange.

Jmb
 
jmbfestool said:
neth27 said:
woodguy7 said:
Totally agree John.  To many people are reliant on power tools.  I'm with you, I use hand tools much more than power tools.  When my apprentice first started working for me he thought I was joking when I said he couldn't use the Kapex for finishings !  He was under no illusions that he had to be competent with hand tools first.

Woodguy.

[big grin] My last apprentice thought i was joking when i said you have to hang a fire door by yourself, he could just to say lift  them up....I always made him use hand tools, apart from a cordless drill (i couldn't be that cruel) He could of took his eyes out with a Yankee screwdriver....  

John..

Mentors are cruel haaha

My mentor when I was an apprentice made me rip a couple of sheets  18mm 8x4 plywood down the middle the first week I started and then I had to cover a very large area of flooring with plywood ...hall way, lounge, dinning room  all with plywood and I had to use hand saw only!  lots of cutting! My arm was killing!  Also doing some floor joist had to notch all joists top and bottom all by hand 32 of them so they could sit in the rsj flange.

Jmb

You had it easy then  [smile] When i done my apprenticeship the only power tool used was a corded hammer drill.. I remember for 3 days i had to rip down sheet after sheet of 18mm ply for fascia board with a hand saw.. I also remember doing shuttering where all day i was swinging a sledge hammer knocking steel pins in to dolomite in the snow( i couldn't feel my arms)

John.
 
Ah, the good old days  [big grin]

Back on topic, I think it's clear nobody would pay double for Festools, well exept for Kreg that is.  I think the fumes from all that bead board must have twisted his Mellon  [poke]
 
Why oh why would you want to pay double for something???Oh dear.Would it not be wiser buying something twice?
 
jmbfestool said:
jimmy7 said:
Why oh why would you want to pay double for something???Oh dear.Would it not be wiser buying something twice?

+1       

it may be the way it came across or how i worded it  but what i was more interested in was what tool is so flipin good that it would merit a double price tag. by seeing what you would pay that much more for would move me to consider that tool as a next purchase. I have no intention of paying double for anything and i agree that buying 2 of the same item is obviously better. All I'm saying and its been touched on is that the ets150/3  has payed for itself  within 2 months in my line of work  (great ROI) so if it did cost double it would still be worth buying.  So i guess the real question is what festool was the best return on investment???
 
I'll preface this by saying that I'll answer a little bit different, but in the spirit of your request.  For me -
the MFT/3.  I thought for several years that it was an over priced product.  Then I finally broke down and bought one.  It has gotten its mileage.  It is used on virtually every job.  I can set it up in less than three minutes and it has eliminated a lot of other stuff I carry around.  It also allows me to work safer than before.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
I'll preface this by saying that I'll answer a little bit different, but in the spirit of your request.  For me -
the MFT/3.  I thought for several years that it was an over priced product.  Then I finally broke down and bought one.  It has gotten its mileage.  It is used on virtually every job.  I can set it up in less than three minutes and it has eliminated a lot of other stuff I carry around.  It also allows me to work safer than before.

Peter

Peter

I like the MFT as well. I have found some really cool production sanding applications for it that have streamlined some of our parts and pieces work a good bit.
 
How about asking:

"If all your Festools got nicked, which one would you replace first?"

or

"If all your Festools got nicked, in what order would you replace them?"

 
This thread is terrible.

The idea of paying double for a Festool makes me feel sick! I'd rather use Black and Decker  [eek]
 
Nigel said:
This thread is terrible.

The idea of paying double for a Festool makes me feel sick! I'd rather use Black and Decker  [eek]

Look at the upside ... You can also ponder the thought of all of your stuff getting nicked !

...  [crying]
 
Kev said:
Nigel said:
This thread is terrible.

The idea of paying double for a Festool makes me feel sick! I'd rather use Black and Decker  [eek]

Look at the upside ... You can also ponder the thought of all of your stuff getting nicked !

...  [crying]

Indeed!

But we only appreciate the true value of something when we lose it. It has turned into rather a wingy Festool price bashing thread so I thought I would try and turn it around. I do like a winge and moan about Festool prices myself. The tool prices are fine but I do feel that I must have 3 or 4 letters tattooed  on my forehead (pick something suitable!) when it comes to accessory prices.

After lots of tears, a phone call to the old bill, a phone call to my insurers, more tears, probably 10 pints of Guinness and then some more tears I would replace my TS55 first, followed by the CT26.
 
the thread changes when you phrase it differently, "what tool would you instantly buy again would it be stolen/broken out of warranty?"
Meaning you payed twice to keep it.
In my case i would then say pretty much all of them, but if there were a newer or better version available i would get that one obviously.
 
Timtool said:
the thread changes when you phrase it differently, "what tool would you instantly buy again would it be stolen/broken out of warranty?"
Meaning you payed twice to keep it.
In my case i would then say pretty much all of them, but if there were a newer or better version available i would get that one obviously.

But you would have to start a new thread....cos that ain't the OP's question.
 
How about "Who way pay an additional premium to cover you if your Festool is superseded within the first 18 months of ownership?"

(ie; you get updated to the new model for nothing)
 
I would gladly pay double for my Festool coffee mug, since it was free in the first place. ::)
 
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