Wrong size hose?

[howieb]

I just received the Kapex and CT26 that I bought as the promotional combination.  I think the CT26 has the wrong size hose though.  If I understood correctly, it is supposed to come with a 36mm hose, but the hose that came with it appears to be 27mm (inside diameter).  Two questions:

Is 27mm is supposed to be the inside diameter of the 27mm hose?
What should my expectations be with resolution?  Do you think I'll have to send the whole CT back to the dealer, or can we do a hose exchange in the mail??

Thanks,

Howie

 

[Alan m]

the 27mm hose comes standard with the vac (all models) the kapex dc will still work with the 27mm  hose but not as well. you will have to buy the 36 mm hose seperatly.

 

[howieb]

On at least a couple of dealers sites, the Festool part number P26561287 description says that it includes the 36mm hose.  Are you saying that it's the dealer's choice as to what to include with this part number?  I'm not sure if it is permitted, but I can post a couple of links to the dealer sites if it is.

Update:  Looking at several different sites, for the ones that do list the hose diameter, some list it as 27mm and some as 36mm.  This is a huge difference.  I just don't get why there is this variation.  If I knew this was an issue, I would have made sure the dealer I purchased from included the correct hose. Now I'm kind of stuck purchasing an extra hose?

Thanks,

Howie

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Please provide me with links to any dealers whose sites have incorrect information. I will contact them to have their information corrected.

All CTs, with the exception of the CT AutoClean, have 27mm hoses included. The reason a 27mm hose is included is that it will work with all tools, whereas the 36mm will not work with some tools like sanders. There is no option to purchase them with a 36mm instead of a 27mm. The 36mm hose must be purchased separately or, a more economical option, as part of a cleaning set. The Kapex will work with the 27mm or 36mm hose. As was mentioned, the 36mm will provide better dust extraction overall.

Shane

 

[howieb]

I e-mailed you the links Shane.

Thanks,

Howie

 

[ccarrolladams]

Howieb and Everyone,

Before I could respond, our Beloved Leader and FOG site Administrator Shane answered. Any Festool dealer who offered a 36mm anti-static hose as a routine part of a CTxx dust extractor is making a side deal. Also as Shane told you, while the 36mm hose will improve dust collection and cleaning, that is only true for tools able to use a 36mm hose. None of the normal sanders, the OF1010 and MFK700 routers, the jig saws or the Domino can directly accept a 36mm hose.

Actually the best hose for the Kapex is 36mm Anti-Static but only @2m long. Festool sells 36mm AS hose in 3.5m, 5.0m and 7.0m lengths. They also sell the vac and tool ends separately.

When I bought my first CT22, along with a TS55, I also bought a trade cleaning set which included a 36mm AS x 5.0m hose. I used that 36mm hose with my TS55 as well as for cleaning. I use the 27mm hose for my OF1010 and sanders.

Before I received my Kapex, I had used them on visits to Europe. My friends there had made 2.0m or 2.3m lengths of 36mm AS hose for the Kapex. One fellow with a large shop buys his Festool hose in long coils, but that is not possible in the USA.

I find that when I cut 2.3m off a 7.0m hose, the 4.7m remaining is more than enough for cleaning. If I need to replace the hose on several Kapex I can make three from a single 7.0m hose. Fortunately I find the end parts last years, so I do not always need to buy more of the ends new each time I replace the hose.

Here on FOG we have often discussed installing the ends on hose. A short phone call to Festool USA service will provide you the part numbers for the ends. Those are sold as replacement parts, so you can buy them directly from Festool USA.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Howie,

I wanted to share this publicly to help anyone else who may misinterpret the information. For clarification, Howie did not purchase from either of these two dealers but gave these as examples.

The first is a special package that Tool Nut has assembled that includes the 36mm. It's the same as purchasing the hose separately, they just bundle it to make it easier to purchase as a set.

The second is a site lists "Dust extraction up to 91% with behind the cut dust hood and pivoting 36 mm hose." as a feature of the Kapex. It's stating that 91% dust extraction can be achieved with a 36mm hose. I've emailed the dealer and asked that it be clarified that the 36mm hose is optional. No where that I could see does it state that the hose is included with the Kapex or the package.

My apologies for any misinterpretation or confusion over what's included.

Shane

 

[howieb]

Thanks ccarolladams for the hose advice.

Shane, the interesting thing about the Tool Nut package, if they do include the 36mm in addition to the 27mm, they do it at a lower price then some dealers that do not include it separately. Even themselves as it turns out.  [blink]  Given the very narrow range of prices, this is another non-obvious aspect of what's going on.

 

[howieb]

Do any of the cleaning kits now come with a 5m 36mm hose?  All I see in the kits is 3.5m hose.

Thanks,

Howie

 

[Sean.M]

Do any of the cleaning kits now come with a 5m 36mm hose?  All I see in the kits is 3.5m hose.

Thanks,

Howie

I have only seen the 3.5 in the sets.

 

[Corwin]

Do any of the cleaning kits now come with a 5m 36mm hose?  All I see in the kits is 3.5m hose.

Thanks,

Howie

No, they come with the 3.5m length of D36 hose.  I suggest you determine what length hose will work for your Kapex and either get the 7m hose to cut down or ask a dealer if they will sell you the length of D36 hose you need with the required end fittings.  Either of those options may prove more workable than purchasing the 5m and cutting something like 2m off to use with your Kapex, as the remaining length may be too short to be useful.

 

[fdengel]

The reason a 27mm hose is included is that it will work with all tools,

From what I understand, it won't work with the HL 850 E.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

The reason a 27mm hose is included is that it will work with all tools,

From what I understand, it won't work with the HL 850 E.

It will work, just not well suited if you're producing large chips.

 

[fdengel]

It will work, just not well suited if you're producing large chips.

I was so sure I'd read somewhere that it wouldn't fit, that I didn't even try it... now that I evidently don't have as much cleanup to do, maybe I will use it more often, just on a lighter setting.

I'll eventually get a 36mm hose, but until then...

Thank you!