Bevel Gauges

I am also interested in the accuracy of the angle plate.  Any good measuring tool must have a stated accuracy.  And Gary mentioned Starrett, so I tried to look up the accuracy of their protractors.  For their 490/491 series protractors, which most woodworkers might use, Starrett does not state an accuracy!  At least it wasn't in the catalog.  For their vernier-style protractors, the accuracy is better than 1/12 degree. 

Guess I will wait to see about the angle plate
 
Sal and I stopped by the woodpecker booth and they called woodpeckers direct and told use both the larger and smaller bevel square will feature the hole in the blade. The hole is for hanging the tool up.

Dave
 
Hello all,
With regards to the accuracy of the Angle Reference Plates, the prototypes pictured are accurate to a minimum of 1/8 degree. I realize that isn't all that good however I expect the production units to be much better. We have the engraver calibrated in the X-axis to within a couple thousandths across 50" however the Y-axis asn't been calibrated yet. That will be done before these pieces are made. Our digital Heidanhain glass scale was out for repair while I was making these. Please feel free to contact me if you would like anymore information.

Richard Hummel
Woodpeckers Inc
 
Ronwen,
Thanks for the correction. You're right, "maximum" of 1/8 degree.

Rich
 
Rich

A plea from the Woodpecker fanatics on this side of the pond, any chance of more metric stuff??

If you say no then my wallet with breath a sigh of relief, but if you say yes well just gotta work harder to afford it!! [eek] [eek]
 
RonWen said:
We're still waiting for him to offer the sharpening jig which he gave us a peek at WIA.  [wink]
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[blink] [blink] [scared]

Cant beat my Veritas MkII and Tormek.......... can it??? [crying] [crying]
 
rmh said:
With regards to the accuracy of the Angle Reference Plates, the prototypes pictured are accurate to a minimum of 1/8 degree.
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Thanks Rich!

BTW, I thought you chose "maximum" correctly, but I was assuming you meant that at any given setting the maximum deviation from "perfect" would be no greater than 1/8 degree.  Is that right?

Regards,

John
 
RonWen said:
Well stated Gary.
Young, sharp eyes can easily discern down to ~.005 or perhaps a little better on a good day.  Laser etching doesn't make much of a "groove", mainly just burning through the (red) anodizing.  If you'll notice on most Starrett scales the hash marks are slightly grooved into the scale so a sharp awl can sit in the depression for setting tools (in this case a bevel square).  That relieves the eyes of having to judge the position. 
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Wow. "I did not know that".  Thanks Ron.
 
John,
I'm not sure what the correct nomenclature is however the deviation from perfect is not greater than 1/8 degree. As mentioned previously, the production units will be better. Thanks.

Richard Hummel
Woodpeckers
 
RonWen said:
We're still waiting for him to offer the sharpening jig which he gave us a peek at WIA.  [wink]
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The honing guides are back at the top of the drawing board. Further development will begin in earnest. As to whether our tools will be better than the Mark II or Tormek, I believe both of those are thoughtfully designed, easy to use and well made. However that's not to say there isn't room for improvement. Tool development is typically an incremental improvement process where you start with what's good and if possible, make it better. I got into this business because I love tools and can't seem to get enough of them. And like probably all of you, always say "man wouldn't it be great if this thing....".

Rich
 
I handled the woodpecker bevel gauge at the Somerset Exhibition Center woodworking show, NJ, this past Friday. Feel is nice and it locks solid. I like that the tightener has a slide in it, it's helpful. Pricey, but they do stand behind there products.
 
RonWen said:
GPowers said:
RonWen said:
Richard, I'm pleased to see that you are expanding the set-up block sets to 34 pieces to include commonly used sizes e.g. 5/8" and nominal ply thicknesses.
I watched the video but don't yet see them on the ordering site.
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I used this URL

http://www.woodpeck.com/ottdeluxesetup.html
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Yeah, the cart was pushing the horse last evening when they released the YouTube video.
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I bought just the metric set last time.  Would like to buy the 34 block set but the $249 price is a hard pill to swallow  [scared]
 
I'm with you on that one...

They had a subset on display at the WW Show in Somerset this past weekend. It looked nice but when I saw the price tag, $139.00, I moved on without looking at it in detail.

Kreg has their own, somewhat similar, offering, albeit, with fewer parts; 7 vs. ???, and only $40.00.  Kreg's is geared towards router setup but can be used in table saw situations. 

GPowers said:
I bought just the metric set last time.  Would like to buy the 34 block set but the $249 price is a hard pill to swallow  [scared]
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Woodpecker's gauges came today. Very nice. Really solid, the blade is about twice as thick as others I have (seen).  Lock works well very easy to adjust the tension from completely loose to just grabbing ( for adjusting) to really tight.  Satin finish on blades is nice.

The angle gauge plate  works well too.

Seth
 
Got my set today, I really like the finish on the blade as well as the anodizing on the frames..
Got both sizes and the angle gauge, real good deal I believe [smile]

Sal
 
I have most models of bevel squares and with the possible exception of the Patrick Leach reproduction of J. Robinson's 1872 patent square which has the added feature of locking precisely at 90 degrees the Woodpecker version is at the top of the list -- very solidly built.

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/video-preview-superior-works-sliding-bevel?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+woodworkingmagazine+%28Woodworking+Magazine%29

EDIT:  I've been working on a project that requires several angle settings so I've been using the new Woodpecker sliding bevel as well as a couple of others.  I'm finding the sliding "Tee" knob somewhat annoying -- it seems to slide into my way most of the time and/or be at an awkward position for locking the square, I would much prefer just a knurled knob for locking the square. 

I hate to take more points away but when using this square with my BCT Angle Master Pro the non-magnetic stainless blade looses points -- it's much easier setting my Veritas sliding bevel because it snaps right onto the AMP & allows for one hand locking of the thumb lever.
Normally the non-magnetic stainless would be a plus but not with the Angle Master Pro.
Just some observations while I'm working.  [smile]

http://bridgecitytools.com/anglemaster/data/index.html

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32593&cat=1,42936,50298,43508&pb=1#pb
 
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