Building kitchen cabinets. Video series.

[GreenGA]

I agree. One thing Norm did was make us think we could do it. Not because of the tools and gizmos, but his enthusiasm and friendly and informative presentation.

Eric as the new Norm...  Most excellent.  [smile]

And in some of his videos he mentions adopting Norm's ideas of jigs for various tasks. 

 

[erock]

I love the green tape holding the cloth over the iron -- makes it look like another Festool!

Gotta use it!   [smile]

It's Frogtape, I bet.

hahahaha!  I didn't even think of that……but yes, it's Frog tape ! 

 

[erock]

Nice series of vids. I would never have the time it takes to do those. I guess mom does not deserve the solid drawers with dovetails, hidden slids eh?. [eek] Nice job tho.

She didn't want dovetails.  When I asked her if she wanted them or Domidrawers (like I did for my kitchen)  she said something along the line of

"why bother? The drawers are only opened when I need something out of them.  I don't see the need for them."

My personal view on dovetails are they used to be a symbol of high end furniture/cabinets.  Because back in the day a craftsman would hand cut them.  Now with all the modern tools/jigs

we have available to us it's easy to make dovetail drawers, so I don't see them as a high end mark of furniture/cabinets anymore. 

Eric

 

[tiralie]

She didn't want dovetails.   When I asked her if she wanted them or Domidrawers (like I did for my kitchen)  she said something along the line of "why bother? The drawers are only opened when I need something out of them.  I don't see the need for them."

LOL, ya best not getting her hooked on that fancy stuff!

My personal view on dovetails are they used to be a symbol of high end furniture/cabinets.  Because back in the day a craftsman would hand cut them.  Now with all the modern tools/jigs we have available to us it's easy to make dovetail drawers, so I don't see them as a high end mark of furniture/cabinets anymore. 

Beacuse of those tools and jigs dovetail drawers are de rigueur (customers have come to expect them) for any custom made furniture and cabinetry.
You should make some, you'll be hooked. They are not always as easy to make as the jig and tool companies would have you think.
Tim

 

[Mr Froggy]

Hi Eric,

Thank you so much to share with us your work, I really like your methods and your tidy workshop!!!
I hope to get one like your..... I'm dreaming on that every night  [tongue]

Good job for your mom!

 

[erock]

Hi Eric,

Thank you so much to share with us your work, I really like your methods and your tidy workshop!!!
I hope to get one like your..... I'm dreaming on that every night  [tongue]

Good job for your mom!

Merci beaucoup! 

Eric

 

[Mr Froggy]

[thumbs up]

 

[erock]

Two years of French in high school….and that's just about all I can remember….. [embarassed]

Welcome to the FOG  Mr. Froggy !  Hope we get to see some of your projects.

Eric

 

[UncleJoe]

Great video series. I can see your editing skill getting better each day.

Question on the edge banding. The iron, have you used FastCap's edges, no iron required based on my experience but maybe there is something I don't know.

 

[erock]

Great video series. I can see your editing skill getting better each day.

Question on the edge banding. The iron, have you used FastCap's edges, no iron required based on my experience but maybe there is something I don't know.

Hey Uncle Joe,  Yes I've used  Fastcap's edge banding.  I've had good results with it.  I've also used their speed  tape for banding that did not have glue.

So far everything that I've used from Fastcap has been good.  I went to a local woodworking store too buy the Fastcap maple edge banding, but they didn't have any in stock.

So I did a little shopping online and found good edge banding that was a lot cheaper.

I bought 2  250' roles of pre finished maple off Ebay for a lot less then one  role of the Fastcap edge banding.  A 250' Fastcap role is around $95 not including shipping.  The pre finished maple

I got off Ebay was $60 plus $12 for shipping.  So as much as I like the Fastcap stuff,  I've found it's not worth the extra cost for me and my use.

Eric

 

[RKA]

Eric, have you used your MFK for trimming the fastcap stuff?  If you did, any thoughts?  There was another thread recently where people were commenting that the fastcap adhesive was gumming up the bit and generally fouling up the dust collection because it was so sticky.  I remember watching a video with you trimming edge banding with the MFK and it seemed to go pretty quickly/smoothly, but I don't remember you mentioning what kind of edge banding you were trimming. 

 

[rmwarren]

I found the FastCap peel/stick adhesive to be wickedly sticky, it gummed up my router bearing and I don't doubt it could clog up a vac hose.

Using speed tape with plastic laminate I ended up applying the tape to the plywood edge, rolling it on & then trimming the excess overhanging off the edges with a razer blade. Only after that could I apply the laminate strips & trim it with a router and not get everything gummed up.

Flip side is the stuff works great, and saves a ton of time.

RMW

 

[erock]

Eric, have you used your MFK for trimming the fastcap stuff?  If you did, any thoughts?  There was another thread recently where people were commenting that the fastcap adhesive was gumming up the bit and generally fouling up the dust collection because it was so sticky.  I remember watching a video with you trimming edge banding with the MFK and it seemed to go pretty quickly/smoothly, but I don't remember you mentioning what kind of edge banding you were trimming. 

Yeah,  The first time I trimmed the Fastcap edge banding with the MFK it was nasty!  I was trimming the black PVC banding.  I played with the speed….didn't help out.

So then I did the same thing  that RMW shared…..Apply the PVC banding, with a razor trim off all the excess banding then run the MFK to clean it up. 

If I use the Fastcap PVC edge banding I don't bother with the MFK anymore.  It's a great trim router, but for me, it's faster to use the Fastcap tools to trim the PVC banding.

Now in the video where I'm trimming the edge banding with the MFK….it's real wood edge banding on 18mm (3/4")  plywood.  The edge banding was  7/8" ( if I remember correctly).

In the last cabinet video of me  ironing on the edge banding I'm applying the edge banding to 12mm (1/2") plywood.  The drawer parts are small and the edge banding is 7/8" wide.  I can't

use the MFK with the thin plywood and wide edge banding.  The bearing guide on the MFK doesn't run along the board that needs to be trimmed.  So if I wanted to use the MFK I would have

to rig up some kind of jig to hold the drawer piece.  And the base that I would have used on the MFK is just as big or bigger then my drawer pieces.  It just wasn't the proper tool for my task.

And, with so much excess edge banding over hanging the 12mm plywood and the router bit I use it would have left me with long strips of banding  (above the router bit) that

could/would clog the dust port.  I didn't want to buy 2 different sizes of edge banding for the project which is why I'm using such a wide edge banding on the 12mm plywood.

Hope that all makes some kind of sense….. [unsure]

Eric

 

[RKA]

Yup, that makes sense!  Thanks guys!

 

[pmarcusm]

Eric,

I noticed in the video where you started installing dominos, that in the first piece you cut the first cuts with the domino set to minimum cut width with the indexing guides and on the adjoining piece you set the cut width to the next wider cut, but then you adjusted the location of the center cuts by 3mm. My question to that is, isn't the cutter based off of centerline of the cutter? It makes sense to met that there shouldn't be any dimensional change in the index of a the 3 width size cuts.
Could you please explain that one a bit better.

Marcus

 

[erock]

Eric,

I noticed in the video where you started installing dominos, that in the first piece you cut the first cuts with the domino set to minimum cut width with the indexing guides and on the adjoining piece you set the cut width to the next wider cut, but then you adjusted the location of the center cuts by 3mm. My question to that is, isn't the cutter based off of centerline of the cutter? It makes sense to met that there shouldn't be any dimensional change in the index of a the 3 width size cuts.
Could you please explain that one a bit better.

Marcus

Marcus,

  I'll do my best to explain…..  my side panels the domino is set at the exact setting of the tenon being used, for me it's a 6mm domino.

The first domino is located using the pin on the domino off the front of the cabinet.  When I use the cross stops the pin goes into the first mortise cut out.  So the pin is referencing off the

inside edge of the mortise.

I want to try to stay in the center of the mortises for maximum adjustment.

So when I plunged the mortise holes in the side panel of the cabinet I open the mortise hole by 6mm by changing the setting on the domino machine.  Again, the first plunge is made with

the pin on the machine against the front of the cabinet, but it's the middle (or next) mortise that changes locations by opening the width of the mortise.

The pins on the cross stops will be referencing off the inside of the mortise….so I want to adjust my pins by 3mm so I can try to maintain the center of my mortises to maintain the

maximun adjustment for the two parts to line up for me.

If I didn't adjust the cross stops by 3mm it could have made it a little difficult for my assembly.  So by accounting for the extra width of the mortise I'm able to keep the domino a little more

centered in my mortise to give me more adjustability. 

I hope that makes sense.  [unsure]

Eric

 

[pmarcusm]

Eric,

Make since now, because I realized that you were indexing from the first mortise edge and not the edge of the cabinet panel. Sometimes you just have to ask question

Thanks for the reply and clarification. I am loving the domino joiner and trying to get the most out of it.

Marcus

 

[erock]

 
Just a little note that I updated my first post of some of the latest videos of this series.

I didn't add a couple of the videos because they show someone else's router table being used…..this is a Festool site after all.    [smile]

Here is the latest video…..  part 16.



Again….thanks guys, for all the positive feed back!  Much appreciated guys!

Eric

 

[Wooden Skye]

The cabinets are looking great!!  Inquiring minds want videos 13 &15!  If you add that it can be done on the CMS, I think everyone would agree that you covered the Festool requirement.  [big grin]

 

[erock]

I have all the base cabinets done.  Time to start on the wall cabinets.

This video shows me starting the wall cabinets for this kitchen project.

Thanks for watching !



Just a little F.Y.I.    if anyone is catching this post for the first time…all the videos from this series can be found in my first post.  As I post a video here I make sure to update the first post.

Take care guys!

Eric