Consolidated Q&A for CMS Router Table

[WarnerConstCo.]

How do you void the warranty on some extruded aluminum? 

The only thing I could see going bad is the switch, but they make different one's.

 

[nickao]

Am I the only one that prefers my router table be big and heavy? I guess it's the type of work one does.

 

[andvari]

Big and heavy is great, but if you are a hobbyist you are usually space constrained.

I'm fortunate to have a good budget for my hobby, but not so good that I can build an addition on the house for it.

 

[nickao]

Yeah I had to finally move to get the space I needed. The wife parking outside in the Chicago winter weather while we had a 3 car garage was the source of friction for  10 years.

Still, unless this was used as a site tool I think for me I could make or buy something else that was heavier and more solid for a stay at home or shop set up. Heavy with a lot of mass is just my personal preference for router tables. It would not necessarily take up much more floor space and could still be moveable.

 

[PeterK]

My shop is only 11 by 20 yet my router table is 32" by 48"! It houses all my accessories and bits as well as my router collection. The large top gets used for other purposes as well. While I like the concept of the CMS, I have often needed the large surface of my table to support material being fed. Now the CMS that attaches to the MFT/3 would make a nice second table but is too pricey for that usage for me.

 

[nickao]

Nice size table! Definitely good for the larger cabinet doors, etc.

Your use of storage is a really big issue. The CMS takes up space that can't be used simultaneously for storage of bits, etc. So in a sense the CMS theoretically can take up more space(if one left it up) than a regular type router table!

 

[Tinker]

Many moons ago, i bought a WoodRat partly because it supposedly took up less space.  Physically, the machinery does take up far less space than any other router table i could put in my shop.  The unintended consequences of that toy are the tremendous amount of space that needs to be cleared so i can clean up the mess it makes with every job.  Even the small jobs.  dust and chips go everywhere.  All of my other machinery is on wheels and since introduction to Festoys, everything works together with almost no dust buildup, I am more aware of the joys of DC integrated into the tools. 

The point i am looking at with the CMS is more about weight and convenience with good DC.  My shop is too small for all of the toys i already have.  My thinking is that with a Domino (the small one) and the CMS, I will be able to start unloading some of the lesser used equipment i have.  I like that the CMS is designed to be the same height as my MFT/3 (which already resides in my work area) and the Domino mounted on the Domino MFT (which is on the other side of the Slippery Slope >>>  [unsure])

The CMS appears to be quite collapsible, so i think in the long run, it could actually be a space saver for me.  The configuration where it mounts directly at end of MFT/3 does not appear to be of help for me, unless it is possible to swing the fence and sliding table the other way around so the MFT becomes an outfeed table.  Then it might be perfect for my space.

Tinker

 

[tbellemare]

The MFT/3 isn't practical as an outfeed because you only have two legs on the CMS-VL. The MFT needs to be at the back of the CMS.

Now if you had another MFT, that might be a separate issue.

Tom

 

[Tinker]

I know about the only two legs.  The table, it appears, cannot be turned.  I can see that.
My question is:  Can the fence be placed on the adjacent side of the table?  In other words, 90º to the way it shows in all the pics.
Tinker

 

[tbellemare]

Can the fence be placed on the adjacent side of the table?  In other words, 90º to the way it shows in all the pics.

Not without some modification to the tabletop. The fences mount in some holes that have threaded bosses attached to the bottom of the table.

Tom

 

[nickao]

Getting a second MFT is never a bad thing. 

 

[mouppe]

Re the dust extraction set. I already have a 27mm hose and a 36mm hose and I really don't want any more hoses. Can I just buy a y-adapter to use with the CMS, and if so, what's the part number?

Cheers!

 

[peter halle]

A y adaptor is part number 452898.

Peter

 

[mouppe]

Thanks Peter, I was unsure whether this part can handle the two different hose diameters or whether it is dedicated to the 36mm only.

 

[peter halle]

Thanks Peter, I was unsure whether this part can handle the two different hose diameters or whether it is dedicated to the 36mm only.

Richard, I assume that this is the correct one.  The vac ends of the hoses are the same diameter in my understanding.  SHANE?

Peter

 

[tbellemare]

All of the hoses have 50mm vacuum-side ends. You have it absolutely correct, Peter.

Tom

 

[peter halle]

Thanks Tom for the confirmation! [not worthy]

Peter

 

[Brice Burrell]

Am I the only one that prefers my router table be big and heavy? I guess it's the type of work one does.

Nick, I understand what you're saying about mass.  For what it's worth the CMS is very stable and has no vibration, that's impressive for a light weight table.

 

[mouppe]

Thanks for the vac confirmation. Sounds as if it will fit the bill perfectly.

Regarding the CMS, don't forget how heavy the fence is. When it's all put together, I would say it's as heavy if not more than the typical MDF/ phenolic router table.

 

[Tinker]

Can the fence be placed on the adjacent side of the table?  In other words, 90º to the way it shows in all the pics.

Not without some modification to the tabletop. The fences mount in some holes that have threaded bosses attached to the bottom of the table.

Tom

Thanks Tom
That being the situation, i would be thinking the free standing CMS.  Somewhere I seem to think i saw that the CMS is the same height as the MFT/3.  That should work with the MFT as either an infeed or outfeed table.  I think it might not be needed that way as there is an outfeed/infeed table as part of the CMS.  That and the sliding table make the whole setup appear to be extremely adaptable to many conditions from a very small area to working in my (sometimes) summer shop >>> the great out doors.
Tinker