CTL SYS - Review.

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Great advice! Didn't know that - never used mine without the bag.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
Brice Burrell said:
six-point socket said:
Hi!

You can use the CTL-SYS without filter bag.

Kind regards,
Oliver

I would not recommend using any Festool vac without a filter bag.  The problem is that with no filter bag the main can/will clog almost immediately greatly reducing suction.  This the main problem with regular shop vac type vacuums.

Well, Brice, Fine Woodworking assumes everyone uses their dc without the bag. I wonder if they remove the air filters on their cars and trucks. From my perspective that DC article was the biggest disservice they foisted on their readers.
 
Maybe use an extractor without a paperbag in combination with a miter saw and track saw? They give less dust, but more pieces of wood???
 
SHJ NH said:
Maybe use an extractor without a paperbag in combination with a miter saw and track saw? They give less dust, but more pieces of wood???

That will still clog the main filter.  If you want to get the most out of your Festool vac use a filter bag.
 
Has anyone tried out the CTL SYS with the CT wing?  How much sticking/holding power does it have compared to a normal CT?

The only downside I experienced using the full CT with the CT Wing was the tremendous noise it generated as compared with the normal quiet purr of the vac.
 
[member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] Why?  Is the hose end fitting profile of the CTL-Sys different from that of the normal 27mm hose on the standard CTs?

tjbnwi said:
You'd have to make a hose adapter for the CT Wings.

Tom
 
Edward A Reno III said:
[member=4105]tjbnwi[/member] Why?  Is the hose end fitting profile of the CTL-Sys different from that of the normal 27mm hose on the standard CTs?

tjbnwi said:
You'd have to make a hose adapter for the CT Wings.

Tom

My mistake---I was thinking the VAC SYS. I'm old and easily confused.

Tom
 
I'm using my CTL SYS for a non woodworking task, and probably way over engineered. Besides woodworking I do reloading for long range target shooting, and as such consume a significant amount of ammunition. In preparing rifle brass one of the many steps is to trim the brass to length and I use a Dillon 650 progressive press fitted with a case trimmer (basically a carbide tipped cutter on a motor). To collect the brass shavings I needed a vacuum and the Lowes model I initially bought for the task is akin to standing on the wrong end of a jet plane at take off. Hence my purchase of a CTL SYS, much quieter, and although it has a relatively small volume in the bag, I only generate a very small amount of brass shavings. It also fits nicely under my reloading table.
 
Hi,

Having the CTL-SYS since November '15 I thought I should add/share some thoughts of my longer term experience with it, especially since it is now also available in the US.

The CTL-SYS has become my most used vac during the last 6 months. I use it with my jigsaw, oscillating-multitool, rotary hammer and cordless drills/drivers. I use it to clean the cars and on various occasions as of lately also as an air blower. Whenever I need a vac I reach for the CTL-SYS first and only in a couple of cases where I needed more dust/debris-collecting-volume I reached for a bigger vac, never because the CTL-SYS lacked power/suction or for any other reason.

After what Brice said I didn't/don't use it without a filter bag. It's not that they would cost an arm and a leg anyway and if it saves me hassle/repairs later on - totally worth it. Plus it's a lot easier/cleaner to trash a sealed bag than the contents of a container.

What I didn't realize as special at first is that the vac runs a little longer after the tool stops drawing power from it in automatic mode, I kinda expect this because it if very useful - especially when drilling. But a pro who borrowed and used my CTL-SYS when he was working for me was actually pretty excited about that among other things like: size, weight, connectivity and power. Seems not every (shop) vac with integrated outlet runs a little longer than the tool does. I guess we have another convert, he definitely wanted to ask his boss to buy one.

The truth is that everyone who I showed this little vac to was pretty excited about it and I'm too till this day.

I really didn't come across anything new that I didn't like.

As I didn't use it yet while sanding/grinding I really can't tell if the lack of variable suction is really that much of a problem, sooner or later I will find out obviously and make my decision on that.

Until then I'm tempted to say that the CTL-SYS really is a perfectly well executed little vac.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
I have a little time left in the 30 day return window on my CT-Sys, and I am still on the fence about it.  I got it as a more portable option for the occasional site work I do, and as a complementary vac in the shop to save time between switching the hose among various tools (especially when I'm moving back and forth between the 36mm and the 27mm hoses).  The lack of variable suction is an issue for me as it prevents working effectively with the RTS400 and the HSK sanding block.

Just this morning, though, I moved a bit more into the pro/keeper column, when I did a quick cleanup in the house.  I've previously hauled in the CT26 from the shop to do this, but thought I'd test out the CT-Sys for this operation.  Hooked up to a 36mm hose it ended up having plenty of power to do all the necessary house cleaning tasks, and it was great to be able to carry it on my shoulder and maneuver around the tables and chairs instead of constantly banging into their corners as would happen with the CT26.  I didn't get a chance to test out the turbo suction brush on the carpet, but am gonna try this later today and see how it goes.
 
Edward A Reno III said:
I have a little time left in the 30 day return window on my CT-Sys, and I am still on the fence about it.  I got it as a more portable option for the occasional site work I do, and as a complementary vac in the shop to save time between switching the hose among various tools (especially when I'm moving back and forth between the 36mm and the 27mm hoses).  The lack of variable suction is an issue for me as it prevents working effectively with the RTS400 and the HSK sanding block.

Just this morning, though, I moved a bit more into the pro/keeper column, when I did a quick cleanup in the house.  I've previously hauled in the CT26 from the shop to do this, but thought I'd test out the CT-Sys for this operation.  Hooked up to a 36mm hose it ended up having plenty of power to do all the necessary house cleaning tasks, and it was great to be able to carry it on my shoulder and maneuver around the tables and chairs instead of constantly banging into their corners as would happen with the CT26.  I didn't get a chance to test out the turbo suction brush on the carpet, but am gonna try this later today and see how it goes.
It does work with the CT Wings also.
 
Ended up returning my CT-Sys yesterday to the dealer, a couple of days shy of the 30 days window.

I think the main thing is that looking ahead over the next year, I'm simply going to be too busy to take on much site work, and so I can't really justify having another CT for the couple of times when I might be called on site.  If it had variable suction, I think I might have still kept it, as it would be a great adjunct for some of the regular sanding tasks I have in the shop.  But the lack of variable suction limits which sanders I can use it with, and excludes the HSK in particular, which I use a fair amount.
 
Agree with all the comments made, across various threads, wrt inability to reduce suction. 
Why, why, why - not included. 

Richard (UK) 
 
Edward A Reno III said:
Ended up returning my CT-Sys yesterday to the dealer, a couple of days shy of the 30 days window.

I think the main thing is that looking ahead over the next year, I'm simply going to be too busy to take on much site work, and so I can't really justify having another CT for the couple of times when I might be called on site.  If it had variable suction, I think I might have still kept it, as it would be a great adjunct for some of the regular sanding tasks I have in the shop.  But the lack of variable suction limits which sanders I can use it with, and excludes the HSK in particular, which I use a fair amount.
Festool used to have small hose fitting that allowed you to manually adjust the airflow via a hole with a rotating cover. Wouldn't be hard to make one if variable suction was all that was holding you back.
 
It's 496112, though NAINA (it would be fairly simple to import though through someone who ships to the US).

Davesbuildtips said:
Edward A Reno III said:
Ended up returning my CT-Sys yesterday to the dealer, a couple of days shy of the 30 days window.

I think the main thing is that looking ahead over the next year, I'm simply going to be too busy to take on much site work, and so I can't really justify having another CT for the couple of times when I might be called on site.  If it had variable suction, I think I might have still kept it, as it would be a great adjunct for some of the regular sanding tasks I have in the shop.  But the lack of variable suction limits which sanders I can use it with, and excludes the HSK in particular, which I use a fair amount.
Festool used to have small hose fitting that allowed you to manually adjust the airflow via a hole with a rotating cover. Wouldn't be hard to make one if variable suction was all that was holding you back.
 
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