DeWalt just made the Cordless World a bit more interesting today...

[Scott in Bend Oregon]

60V batteries.  Well, really 54V. 

A bunch of new cordless tools to go along with the new battery.  Kinda cool using three banks of  cells with each bank totaling 20V.  They can be used in the current 20V Max tools(cells in parallel) or the new 60V tools(cells in series).

Check out the tablesaw in the video.
http://flexvolt.dewalt.com/en-us

 

[Mort]

That's pretty darn cool. I almost invested in their 40v max yard tools, kinda glad I didn't. This might trump that line.

 

[nclemmons]

Not sure why you'd want a cordless tables or chopsaw...  What am I missing?

 

[duburban]

Not sure why you'd want a cordless tables or chopsaw...  What am I missing?

If your not a contractor that loads tools into and out of a truck all day long, often to cross cut or rip just one board, then this won't make sense.

If you've never found yourself up on staging with a little miter saw and have the cord disconnect or the breaker trip in the house, then this won't make sense.

etc... etc... etc...

also, its just cool right!?

 

[#Tee]

exciting day for dewalt for sure. I want the chainsaw and blower lol

 

[gsdvorak]

I'd be curious to see how long run time you would have with the batteries in the table or chop saw, and battery charge time.  Might be a big investment in batteries.  Definitely intriguing though for job site tools.

Gerald

 

[Kev]

Cool - that should stir the marketplace up a bit [smile]

 

[McNally Family]

I just wonder how much those batteries weigh?

 

[Holmz]

I am not sure I want to invest in batteries when the power company has power lines everywhere?

 

[Kev]

I am not sure I want to invest in batteries when the power company has power lines everywhere?

[member=40772]Holmz[/member] a lot of the range seems geared towards site work .. where running generators, tripping over cables, etc can be annoying.

 

[GhostFist]

It's a numbers game, it's amps you want. Cordless tablesaw? No thanks, I have much more portable tools for "quick rips, or crosscut"

Kss

 

[Holmz]

I am not sure I want to invest in batteries when the power company has power lines everywhere?

[member=40772]Holmz[/member] a lot of the range seems geared towards site work .. where running generators, tripping over cables, etc can be annoying.

Who?  In the UK I can understand it, or for a true person 'on-site'.

The truth is 5% of contractors need it, and 95% of everyone else will say, 'I need it too'... When they do not.

 

[Kev]

I am not sure I want to invest in batteries when the power company has power lines everywhere?

[member=40772]Holmz[/member] a lot of the range seems geared towards site work .. where running generators, tripping over cables, etc can be annoying.

Who?  In the UK I can understand it, or for a true person 'on-site'.

The truth is 5% of contractors need it, and 95% of everyone else will say, 'I need it too'... When they do not.

[member=40772]Holmz[/member] "site" doesn't need to be a hole in the ground waiting for a sky scraper. Take [member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member] building his Aussie Shed ... that's the site and if it was 100m from the nearest mains power outlet, these style of tools would make perfect sense.

Only today I took my cordless SCMS out to the garden table and trimmed small sections out of some timber reclaimed from a damaged table. Out in the sunshine and no cords to trip over - brilliant.

Tools that are "seriously stationary" make sense to be mains power tools, but anything else that you're remotely likely to use outside of your workshop makes sense to be offered in cordless form.

I get it that some people simply don't see the point in cordless tools and would rather unroll a power cord ... but I'm not one of those people [smile]

 

[Stephen B]

[member=13058]Kev[/member] [member=40772]Holmz[/member]

[Size=13pt]Interesting discussion guys..

I do not like DeWalt. Never been impressed since a major new drill failure nine years ago. Interestingly it happened during the construction of the then Monty pup's pen. My current career in sales has not changed my views from that experience. Hence I remain a fan of mainly Metabo, Makita, Bosch Blue and naturaly - Festool.

The Aussie Shed does however illustrate your discussion. It is around 60metres from a power point. I have had the compound saw set up near this power source and have cut timber to size there. At the work site I have been using 18V Drills. For any angle grinding work I have a 70 metres of power cords.

You would not call this efficient if it was a commercial operation. If I was a commercial builder, particularly in rural Australia, the newer generation of high volt and amperage batt tools would certainly appeal.

But as an owner builder/hobbiest I prefer corded over batt, due to power and efficiency. I have some batt drills but also corded models. This may also be an 'age' thing!  [eek] It may also be because I want the majority if my tool purchases, given my usage,  to last ten or more years. Consequently the house has an ample supply of external power points.

Back to the Aussie Shed, much time in the 'big green shed'  of late, and when home the rain and gales have continued. Still Ms Untidy's list is being worked on!  [eek]  [smile]
http://festoolownersgroup.com/membe...ustralian-shed/msg463981/?topicseen#msg463981

 

[Bohdan]

In Oz all power cords or tools with leads that are taken onto a (union controlled) building site have to be tested and tagged every 3 months and this can be a significant added cost with some sites insisting on only their (relatively expensive) testing as being valid. If you only have one battery charger/radio this can save quite a bit.

 

[Kev]

In Oz all power cords or tools with leads that are taken onto a (union controlled) building site have to be tested and tagged every 3 months and this can be a significant added cost with some sites insisting on only their (relatively expensive) testing as being valid. If you only have one battery charger/radio this can save quite a bit.

[member=36526]Bohdan[/member] the test tag game is getting crazy .. wife went to present for the mob she's working for at an exhibition and got slugged. I believe in safety, but this has become a scam.

 

[Holmz]

So get a battery powered tool because of the corruption in the system?
That is one way to approach it.
Do we blame the pink batts fiasco?

 

[Stephen B]

In Oz all power cords or tools with leads that are taken onto a (union controlled) building site have to be tested and tagged every 3 months and this can be a significant added cost with some sites insisting on only their (relatively expensive) testing as being valid. If you only have one battery charger/radio this can save quite a bit.

[member=13058]Kev[/member] [member=36526]Bohdan[/member]  [member=40772]Holmz[/member]
It's not only building sites. Tagging in schools came in during my last few years as a school Principal. Here are the latest Victorian guidelines -
http://www.education.vic.gov.au/Doc.../testandtagofelectricalequipmentprocedure.pdf

 

[Bohdan]

It's not just the tools that need testing. At the Uni, that I worked for, every Uni owned cord which plugged into a power point had to be tested regularly but, depending on location, the time interval could be up to 5 years.

Years ago I was producing a training program for the Electrical Apprentice dept on how to wire a three pin plug. To get some photos of correctly wired plugs I went to the Building Studies dept to borrow their leads but unfortunatly could not find a single cord that was correct.

This situation has improved considerably since the new rules were introduced but having to pay up to $15 per plug every few months is a bit much.

 

[95hilux]

I have worked on a lot of mine sites and there are so many rules around such as you have have your leads on stands no piggy backing of leads and there is never enough gen sets on site. So sometimes it can take half a day to do one little job( especially after you have done all the safety paperwork)it would be great for that.

But saying that most of the stuff for the fit outs is prefabbed so all you need is a impact driver/wrench and  Drill and when you are doing formwork all you need is are battery powered skilly and sds. So most if it wouldn't get used and just end up fucked by the Pilbara dust