Down with the old & Up with the new
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Tom the Remodeler
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Hi Cheese,
Yeah that would make sense if the GC is using crews from out of state that there would be miscommunications and issues. Back when I was an employee, I remember some customers paying my employer extra to have the carpenters perform as many of the tasks as legally allowed (as opposed to bringing in sub-contractors for tasks like framing, siding, windows, roofing, trim carpentry, cabinets, etc...). It added time and cost to the project, but it made for great accountability.
If there's a silver lining to it all, it looks like the finished product is coming out nicely, albeit at a slower pace than desired.
Yeah that would make sense if the GC is using crews from out of state that there would be miscommunications and issues. Back when I was an employee, I remember some customers paying my employer extra to have the carpenters perform as many of the tasks as legally allowed (as opposed to bringing in sub-contractors for tasks like framing, siding, windows, roofing, trim carpentry, cabinets, etc...). It added time and cost to the project, but it made for great accountability.
If there's a silver lining to it all, it looks like the finished product is coming out nicely, albeit at a slower pace than desired.
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After a months' plus long delay, the electricity was finally connected to the meter panel. A final electrical inspection was completed today and everything passed. A GENERAL overall inspection still needs to happen but I consider that to be a slam dunk. Everyone says the electrical inspectors are persnickety but my experience has been the opposite, it's been very positive...no problems there.
So tonight I decided to celebrate by having my first beer (will certainly not be the last) in the new garage while cutting foam board insulation to stuff into weird sized stud cavities. There is a God...although at this time of year, he/she is a cold one...current temps are 23º.
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Cutting the foam board is pretty time consuming but the benefits are huge especially in cold environments. A 5-1/2" deep stud cavity will support R-21 fiberglass insulation while the same stud cavity will support R-27.5 foam board insulation. That's almost a 30% increase in insulation capacity.
So tonight I decided to celebrate by having my first beer (will certainly not be the last) in the new garage while cutting foam board insulation to stuff into weird sized stud cavities. There is a God...although at this time of year, he/she is a cold one...current temps are 23º.
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Cutting the foam board is pretty time consuming but the benefits are huge especially in cold environments. A 5-1/2" deep stud cavity will support R-21 fiberglass insulation while the same stud cavity will support R-27.5 foam board insulation. That's almost a 30% increase in insulation capacity.
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Congrats [member=44099]Cheese[/member] great news and a well deserved libation. I greatly miss the beer fridge from the old shop.
At what point will you have the permenant heat connected? Winter finally arrived at the Jurzy shore, in the form of sideways rain, I'm guessing you have it a mite more severely right about now.
RMW
At what point will you have the permenant heat connected? Winter finally arrived at the Jurzy shore, in the form of sideways rain, I'm guessing you have it a mite more severely right about now.
RMW
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Cheese said:
HOT DAM and HOORAY!!!!! [big grin]
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Richard/RMW said:
My beer fridge will be this 1950's Coke machine with the plastic window in the door that I'm refurbing.
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I need to order the remaining parts for the hydronic system, pumps, 2nd manifold system for the upstairs and the electric boiler, et al. Up until now I had nowhere to store all the parts and no reason to spend the extra $$. [eek]
I purchased a Milwaukee LP torpedo heater to temporarily heat the garage before the electricity was connected. It's a nice piece of equipment with adjustable heat output from 30,000 to 70,000 BTU's. It has a built-in fan and operates on 120V mains or a Milwaukee 18V battery...pretty slick.
It's quiet, doesn't make your eyes water and doesn't stink like the typical kerosene torpedo. However, it does go through a 20# cylinder of LP in about 12 hours.
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Congrats on the electric [member=44099]Cheese[/member]. That little heater looks pretty slick. With all of the insulation you installed, it shouldn't have to work too hard to at least keep it comfortable for working inside.
Back in the 70's, I knew a guy who purchased on old dairy building for his shop. In it he had a similar Coke machine which he kept stocked with his favorite Old Style beer. All of his friends knew that you could put $.50 in the machine and get a cold can of Old Style. I don't recall a lot of work getting done in the shop. Just a lot of problem solving and "engineering".
Back in the 70's, I knew a guy who purchased on old dairy building for his shop. In it he had a similar Coke machine which he kept stocked with his favorite Old Style beer. All of his friends knew that you could put $.50 in the machine and get a cold can of Old Style. I don't recall a lot of work getting done in the shop. Just a lot of problem solving and "engineering".
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BarneyD said:
Well Barney, I guess that demarcates the difference between your age and mine... [smile]...the price for a cool one from my Coke machine was originally 10 cents...until "Starvin Marvin" decided to unload several .38 rounds into the coin change mechanism, that kind of screwed things up. [mad] But that just becomes another story that will be lost to the trash bin of history...
Hi [member=44099]Cheese[/member],
I think we're pretty close in age. I'll be 75 this year.
It sounds like your machine will be dispensing "freebies", thanks to Starvin' Marvin. At least you don't have to worry about carrying any change around with you.
Keep up the good work. I'm enjoying this adventure of yours. Thanks.
I think we're pretty close in age. I'll be 75 this year.
It sounds like your machine will be dispensing "freebies", thanks to Starvin' Marvin. At least you don't have to worry about carrying any change around with you.
Keep up the good work. I'm enjoying this adventure of yours. Thanks.
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BarneyD said:
Hi [member=61023]BarneyD[/member] ...I had to chuckle over your 3 statements...they were all right on target.
I'm 75 and you will become 75...so what's to quibble about there...I stand corrected.
Ya, thanks to "Starvin Marvin", freebies will be the beverage of choice. [big grin]
It's funny & sad what a singular moment in life is capable of producing. The coke machine still works and it produces cold beverages but the monetary function no longer works which makes me crazy as the depositing of funds (no matter how small) should result in a pay-out. I love to stick in my dime and receive a cold beer.
Oh well...we were young, liquored up, escaped and survived...others were not so fortunate. [sad]
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So, this is something I've been noticing but I'm confused by it. The garage I'm building is detached from the house but the internal temperature is consistently from 13º-20º warmer than the outside air temperature. At this point the garage walls are covered with R-21 insulation but only to the 80% level.
The ceiling/rafter cavities have yet to be insulated.
Tonight the outside air temp was 10º while the inside garage temp was 25º without any auxiliary heat generation equipment.
Is this normal?
My task for tomorrow is to start insulating the rafter cavities.
The ceiling/rafter cavities have yet to be insulated.
Tonight the outside air temp was 10º while the inside garage temp was 25º without any auxiliary heat generation equipment.
Is this normal?
My task for tomorrow is to start insulating the rafter cavities.
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Cheese said:
Depending on windows, sun exposure, and the like, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Also depends on how much physical equipment is stored in the garage; that thermal mass can take a while to dissipate all of its energy into the surrounding air.
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Even though you have limited window openings if you’ve had some clear days the effect of inSOLation could have been significant.
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Imemiter said:
My thoughts exactly...I've been eyeballing that machine for the last 2 years knowing it had a future. [smile]
Just went outside to shut everything down...outside temp is -2º while the garage temp is +17º.
Today was brutal to try to elevate the garage temperature. I could have started the garage on fire and the inside temp wouldn't have been more than 50º. I just need to add some insulation to the roof cavities to turn this thing in the right direction. I'll try again tomorrow...every little bit does help.
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Michael Kellough said:
I'm with you there Michael...Minnesota in the winter is depressing as there are very few sunny days, everything is overcast or cloudy, it rather reminds me of Oregon in the summer...now that's even more depressing.
Ya, my experience is that a 30º cloudy day in Minnesota will turn into a 40º+ day if there is full sun. Today is definitely the -2º day...
